Im in love with my sister.

[Goshin]

Would you recommend, say, a camp? Say, one that provided sexual reparative therapy?

Maybe one that prays the incest away?

 

[Gringo allstar]

Because one results in the continuation and isolation of bad genes? What I would rather know is:

Besides you don't think it's right, what other ****ing comparison is there to ****ing your sibling and being gay?

Your hateful bigotry is rearing it's ugly head . Where do you get your values from? The Bible?? Leave 2 people who love each other alone and stay the hell out of their bedroom!!

 

[whysoserious]

Your hateful bigotry is rearing it's ugly head . Where do you get your values from? The Bible?? Leave 2 people who love each other alone and stay the hell out of their bedroom!!

Nice straw man, non sequitur, and ad hominem. Aka, nice fail.

 

[American]

Because one results in the continuation and isolation of bad genes? What I would rather know is:

Besides you don't think it's right, what other ****ing comparison is there to ****ing your sibling and being gay?

It's not about comparisons, but about acceptance in the context of the post being responded to.

 

[Gringo allstar]

Nice straw man, non sequitur, and ad hominem. Aka, nice fail.

Says the incestuousphobe, get over your backwoods views and stay out of 2 consenting adults bedroom. It's not up to you to decide who someone loves.

 

[whysoserious]

It's not about comparisons, but about acceptance in the context of the post being responded to.

How is it not a comparison. If you are saying, "How can you be ok with A but not B", you are comparing the two.

I am not sure I've ever heard the argument or evidence that people can be born as sister ****ers. I also not aware of any study that shows that being gay causes bad genes to be passed along more frequently.

 

[whysoserious]

Says the incestuousphobe, get over your backwoods views and stay out of 2 consenting adults bedroom. It's not up to you to decide who someone loves.

So you want this argument to continue on a 3rd grade level? I can do that but I am not sure how the mods will feel about it.

 

[American]

How is it not a comparison. If you are saying, "How can you be ok with A but not B", you are comparing the two.

I am not sure I've ever heard the argument or evidence that people can be born as sister ****ers. I also not aware of any study that shows that being gay causes bad genes to be passed along more frequently.

If you accept a relationship between two men, why not a brother and sister?

 

[whysoserious]

If you accept a relationship between two men, why not a brother and sister?

Well one is illegal. One also tends to isolate bad genes and pass them down. I think also when you get into the topic of familial ****ings, you would learn that it would tend to propagate abuse.

I think a better question is, why do you think someone who supports gay marriage should also support brothers and sisters ****ing and, ****, why not, how about fathers and daughters? Grandfathers and granddaughters? Whatever floats your boat American.

 

[American]

Well one is illegal. One also tends to isolate bad genes and pass them down. I think also when you get into the topic of familial ****ings, you would learn that it would tend to propagate abuse.

I think a better question is, why do you think someone who supports gay marriage should also support brothers and sisters ****ing and, ****, why not, how about fathers and daughters? Grandfathers and granddaughters? Whatever floats your boat American.

The other led to an AIDS epidemic. So moving on, why shouldn't the brother/sister relationship be made legal like gay marriage? It's all about liberty isn't it?

 

[whysoserious]

The other led to an AIDS epidemic. So moving on, why shouldn't the brother/sister relationship be made legal like gay marriage? It's all about liberty isn't it?

1st of all... did it lead to the aids epidemic? I'm pretty sure you can't solely blame gay people for AIDS.

2nd, why don't you answer my questions? I've been answering yours. What is there comparable between gay people and brothers/sisters?

 

[American]

1st of all... did it lead to the aids epidemic? I'm pretty sure you can't solely blame gay people for AIDS.

2nd, why don't you answer my questions? I've been answering yours. What is there comparable between gay people and brothers/sisters?

They are both supposed love relationships.

 

[whysoserious]

They are both supposed love relationships.

So is pedophilia. Or Father/daughter loving. Or just men and women. So if you support a man and woman, why not support a father boning his daughter if she's of age? They're both loving relationships.

Incest/bestiality/pedophilia are illegal acts that have been deemed illegal because of the effects those actions have. If you don't know what the downsides to incest/bestiality/pedophilia are, then perhaps you should do some research into them.

Homosexuality is not illegal. It is said to be wrong (in some sections) by a book that some people think was written by God.

 

[sangha]

What about a guy who keeps all his clean clothes in 1 big pile and dons the very first things he comes across?

That would be a guy who couldn't even get a date with his sister

 

[chromium]

Really? I don't think so. But lets see if I understand you. It is OK to mock a guy who loves his own sister, but not ok to mock a guy who loves another guy. Or puts on a dress because he thinks he is a girl. The first is a lunatic in need of help, while the last are to be accepted and embraced. Explain that contradiction. Or is your head so cloudy that you don't see it?

This is the kind of not at all veiled prejudice that caused me to mock him in the first place. Why would you use analogies like these, as if mocking same sex love is better than mocking opposite sex love? Oh, because the former to you is inferior. Well then, i've no reason to restrain myself when you (or the OP) makes a thread pleading for sympathy for your own sexual rarities.

You also are willfully ignoring that the OP went beyond that in repeatedly mocking a dead kid.

But to answer your question, obsessive love like the OP describe is known as philia and does merit psychological help. That is not what homosexuality is, or transgender

 

[chromium]

The other led to an AIDS epidemic. So moving on, why shouldn't the brother/sister relationship be made legal like gay marriage? It's all about liberty isn't it?

and heterosexual sex led to syphilis epidemic and various other STDs in history, and pregnancy that until recent medicine very often resulted in death of the mother. This is just nature at work. Stop the moral equivocating.

Gay people can only love the same sex, while incestuous couples are very much capable of loving a non sibling. While marriage doesn't necessarily lead to offspring, government and social approval of incest will definitely lead to increase in deformed births. It's really totally separate issues, just you can't see that because they're both "taboo"

 

[chromium]

Your hateful bigotry is rearing it's ugly head . Where do you get your values from? The Bible?? Leave 2 people who love each other alone and stay the hell out of their bedroom!!

This only works if there's some kernel of truth to the matter. The bible is full of incest, the reality of deformed offspring is very much a "compelling governmental interest" and NOT bigotry, and you don't approve of incest anyway i bet. You're just using the opportunity to attack the gay rights movement

 

[dirtpoorchris]

This only works if there's some kernel of truth to the matter. The bible is full of incest, the reality of deformed offspring is very much a "compelling governmental interest" and NOT bigotry, and you don't approve of incest anyway i bet. You're just using the opportunity to attack the gay rights movement

I agree related people shoudnt be able to breed.

 

[chromium]

When you remove the right of the people to define marriage for themselves at the state level, you have removed the right of the people to define marriage for themselves at the state level. You can therefore no longer depend upon the right of the people to define marriage for themselves as a bulwark against it's expansion into definitions you do not approve of. You already stripped it in order to get it expanded in a direction you did approve of.

Except the voters in just about every state already approve of gay marriage and in all states by 2020. You keep acting like this is 2004 or earlier. Either way, who said we want the people to decide any of that, including incest? Oh but they already have. It's been legal in plenty of southern states since before SSM was even conceived of (same with polygamy in utah). So this is a manufactured comparison.

Like i give a damn if he marries his sister though. Too bad for him she's a lesbian. You see, the odds of both siblings loving each other are low enough that incestuous marriage would be quite rare. Unlike fundamentalists who continue to act as if it's national emergency that 2% of couples enter a gay marriage, i find this whole debate over incest and bestiality ridiculous and offensive.

The timing of the slippery slope is not at all coincidental, to say nothing of its ignorance. Yeah i get it. You think same sex love is the same as wanting to marry one's horse or cousin. You've drunk the koolaid of faux news and the local preacher who use these false equivalences to the scare the crap out of their base. Too bad you've lost regardless and just come across as sore losers and incredibly petty

 

[chromium]

I agree related people shoudnt be able to breed.

so if your sister were interested, you'd get a vasectomy? Would you take it that far?

 

[dirtpoorchris]

so if your sister were interested, you'd get a vasectomy? Would you take it that far?

hell no

 

[Superfly]

This only works if there's some kernel of truth to the matter. The bible is full of incest, the reality of deformed offspring is very much a "compelling governmental interest" and NOT bigotry, and you don't approve of incest anyway i bet. You're just using the opportunity to attack the gay rights movement

Nailed it.

 

[chromium]

That is my chief beef with the SSM movement - they are unwilling to consider the consequences of the arguments they choose to make.

We don't need to make any argument. The constitution is such that it is *you* who has to make a case to deprive entire minorities of rights. And the courts have time and time again ruled that there is no compelling government interest in such discrimination

 

[CLAX1911]

The insistence that the exact same argument is valid (do not confuse that with "correct") when used against one group of people but not another is indeed a contradiction. You give logical legitimacy to those who oppose you on SSM when you turn against incest in this manner.

It may be the same argument but it is for two different things. The similarity of the argument doesn't really matter.

There is a logical defence for homosexuality there is not for incest.

 

[chromium]

Nailed it.

i also hadn't yet read his trash about "homos and trannys are as sick as incest" or whatever. Guess we won't need a further response to know his motives