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'I'm gonna have to scare the Pope': Trump says he would warn pontiff that 'ISIS want to get you'

Donald Trump would tell Pope Francis that 'ISIS wants to get you' | Daily Mail Online

Donald Trump has revealed he would warn the Pope that ISIS were out to get him if they meet next month.

In an interview with CNN on Wednesday, Chris Cuomo asked the billionaire businessman what he would say in to Pope Francis if he came face-to face with him during his visit to the United States in September.

The Republican presidential hopeful admitted he was a protestant, but said he thought the Pontiff was a 'good guy' because he is becoming very 'political'.

Then Cuomo asked Trump what his response would be if the Pope condemned capitalism as an 'avenue to greed' that 'can be toxic and corrupt'.

Trump then said: 'I'd say "ISIS wants to get you". You that ISIS wants to go in and take over the Vatican. That's a dream of theirs.
This is absolutely true; ISIS wants to behead the Pope. Please don't ask for a link, you know they do.
 
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Ok?? Point being?

The key point I take away is that this very politically left-leaning pope is being praised by Trump for being politically left-leaning, and his response to a question about capitalism is to say "ISIS gon' Getcha!". :roll:
 
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Ok?? Point being?

It really boils down to the Pope criticizing some parts of the Western culture, that are the engine to solving certain things important to the Pope. He criticizes capitalism in general, but it helps feed more people than anything done by eastern cultures. He needs to focus on enemies to our way of life....like ISIS. They would not only eliminate our culture, but kill the Pope and the Christian religion.
 
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I would like to win the lotto too. Doesn't mean I am buying lotto tickets.

You've got a bigger chance at winning the lotto than ISIS does at beheading the pope.
 
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It really boils down to the Pope criticizing some parts of the Western culture,
So? Cant be critical of parts of Western Culture? We do it all the time.

that are the engine to solving certain things important to the Pope.
What? Religion? Politics? Economics?

He criticizes capitalism in general,
Not really in general... More of a condemnation of extreme inequality, greed, and deregulated capitalism. But he is to the left, he is apart of the liberation theology movement.

What the pope has to say:
"I recognize that globalization has helped many people to rise from poverty, but it has condemned many others to hunger. It's true that in absolute terms it grows world wealth, but it also increased the disparity and the new kinds of poverty.
What I notice is that this system is maintained with the culture of waste, of which I have already spoken several times. There is a politics, sociology, and also an attitude of rejection.
When at the center of the system there is not anymore man but money, when money becomes an idol, men and women are reduced and simply instruments of a social system and an economy characterized, indeed dominated by deep imbalances.
It is that attitude that rejects children and old people, and now also affects young people. I have the impression that in the developed countries there are many millions of young people under 25 years that don't have work. I have called them "nor-nor", because they don't study and they don't work: they don't study because they don't have possibility to do so, don't work because they can't find it.

And therefore, searching for a response to the question, I would say: Let's not consider this state of things irreversible; let's not resign ourselves to it. Let's search to construct a society and an economy where man and his good, and not money, may be the center.

And at the same time I am convinced that there may be [a] need that these men and these women commit -- at every level, in the society, in politics, in economic institutions -- [to] putting at the center the common good.

We cannot wait more to resolve the structural causes of poverty, to heal our society from a disease that can only lead to new crises. Markets and financial speculation cannot enjoy absolute autonomy.

Without a solution to the problems of the poor we cannot resolve the problems of the world. They serve programs, mechanisms and processes oriented to a better allocation of resources, creation of work, [and] integral promotion of those who are excluded.

Pauperism is a caricature of the Gospel and of the same poverty. Instead, Saint Francis has helped us to find the profound links between poverty and the evangelical path.

Poverty is far from idolatry, from feeling self-sufficient. Zacchaeus, after crossing the merciful gaze of Jesus, donated half of his possessions to the poor. The Gospel message is a message open to all, the Gospel does not condemn the rich but idolatry of wealth, that idolatry that renders insensitive to the cries of the poor.

Jesus has said that before offering our gifts in front of the altar we must reconcile ourselves with our brother to be at peace with him. I believe we can, for analogy, extend this request even to being at peace with these poor brothers.

A month before the opening of the Second Vatican Council, Pope John XXIII said: "The church presents how it is and wants to be, like a church of all, and particularly a church of the poor."
In the following years, the preferential choice for the poor entered in the documents of the magisterium. Someone could think it new, while instead it is an attention that has its origins in the Gospel and is documented already in the first centuries of Christianity.

If I might have repeated some passages of the homilies of the first fathers of the church, from the second or third century, on how we should treat the poor, there might be someone who accuses me that mine is a Marxist homily.

[Repeating from Paul VI's 1967 encyclical "Popolorum Progressio"]: private property does not constitute an unconditional and absolute right, and that no one is authorized to reserve for their exclusive use what he does not need, when others lack necessities.

In new interview, Francis strongly defends criticisms of capitalism | National Catholic Reporter
but it helps feed more people than anything done by eastern cultures.
"Eastern cultures" cant/dont/havent had capitalism?


He needs to focus on enemies to our way of life....like ISIS.
He has condemned ISIS, just as he has condemned greed, and hunger.

They would not only eliminate our culture, but kill the Pope and the Christian religion.
Ok. I think he knows this...
 
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As a side note. I've heard Trump say something, then seen the press quote it, and they almost always manage to leave words out of the sentences where it comes to Trump.
 
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So? Cant be critical of parts of Western Culture? We do it all the time.


What? Religion? Politics? Economics?


Not really in general... More of a condemnation of extreme inequality, greed, and deregulated capitalism. But he is to the left, he is apart of the liberation theology movement.

What the pope has to say:
"I recognize that globalization has helped many people to rise from poverty, but it has condemned many others to hunger. It's true that in absolute terms it grows world wealth, but it also increased the disparity and the new kinds of poverty.
What I notice is that this system is maintained with the culture of waste, of which I have already spoken several times. There is a politics, sociology, and also an attitude of rejection.
When at the center of the system there is not anymore man but money, when money becomes an idol, men and women are reduced and simply instruments of a social system and an economy characterized, indeed dominated by deep imbalances.
It is that attitude that rejects children and old people, and now also affects young people. I have the impression that in the developed countries there are many millions of young people under 25 years that don't have work. I have called them "nor-nor", because they don't study and they don't work: they don't study because they don't have possibility to do so, don't work because they can't find it.

And therefore, searching for a response to the question, I would say: Let's not consider this state of things irreversible; let's not resign ourselves to it. Let's search to construct a society and an economy where man and his good, and not money, may be the center.

And at the same time I am convinced that there may be [a] need that these men and these women commit -- at every level, in the society, in politics, in economic institutions -- [to] putting at the center the common good.

We cannot wait more to resolve the structural causes of poverty, to heal our society from a disease that can only lead to new crises. Markets and financial speculation cannot enjoy absolute autonomy.

Without a solution to the problems of the poor we cannot resolve the problems of the world. They serve programs, mechanisms and processes oriented to a better allocation of resources, creation of work, [and] integral promotion of those who are excluded.

Pauperism is a caricature of the Gospel and of the same poverty. Instead, Saint Francis has helped us to find the profound links between poverty and the evangelical path.

Poverty is far from idolatry, from feeling self-sufficient. Zacchaeus, after crossing the merciful gaze of Jesus, donated half of his possessions to the poor. The Gospel message is a message open to all, the Gospel does not condemn the rich but idolatry of wealth, that idolatry that renders insensitive to the cries of the poor.

Jesus has said that before offering our gifts in front of the altar we must reconcile ourselves with our brother to be at peace with him. I believe we can, for analogy, extend this request even to being at peace with these poor brothers.

A month before the opening of the Second Vatican Council, Pope John XXIII said: "The church presents how it is and wants to be, like a church of all, and particularly a church of the poor."
In the following years, the preferential choice for the poor entered in the documents of the magisterium. Someone could think it new, while instead it is an attention that has its origins in the Gospel and is documented already in the first centuries of Christianity.

If I might have repeated some passages of the homilies of the first fathers of the church, from the second or third century, on how we should treat the poor, there might be someone who accuses me that mine is a Marxist homily.

[Repeating from Paul VI's 1967 encyclical "Popolorum Progressio"]: private property does not constitute an unconditional and absolute right, and that no one is authorized to reserve for their exclusive use what he does not need, when others lack necessities.

In new interview, Francis strongly defends criticisms of capitalism | National Catholic Reporter

"Eastern cultures" cant/dont/havent had capitalism?



He has condemned ISIS, just as he has condemned greed, and hunger.


Ok. I think he knows this...

You don't think there is greed under socialism or an Islamic system? There is where the Pope is misguided. He too focused on the West.
 
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It really boils down to the Pope criticizing some parts of the Western culture, that are the engine to solving certain things important to the Pope. He criticizes capitalism in general, but it helps feed more people than anything done by eastern cultures. He needs to focus on enemies to our way of life....like ISIS. They would not only eliminate our culture, but kill the Pope and the Christian religion.

Listen. Counterterrorism isn't in his book.
 
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You don't think there is greed under socialism or an Islamic system? There is where the Pope is misguided. He too focused on the West.

How the **** did you bring socialism into this?
 
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How the **** did you bring socialism into this?

When you're the Pope, you need to look at the big picture. I don't think he was doing that.
 
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'I'm gonna have to scare the Pope': Trump says he would warn pontiff that 'ISIS want to get you'

Donald Trump would tell Pope Francis that 'ISIS wants to get you' | Daily Mail Online


This is absolutely true; ISIS wants to behead the Pope. Please don't ask for a link, you know they do.

Yes, but that would have absolutely nothing to do with they hypothetical condemnation of capitalism. It's a non-sequitur.
 
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When you're the Pope, you need to look at the big picture. I don't think he was doing that.

Pretty sure he focuses on being the leader of his religion and preaching Catholic morals. What big picture? The Catholic Church is no longer in the business of war and the Pope is a religious leader, not political.
 
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Why are American righties so concerned with the Pope?
 
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Why are American righties so concerned with the Pope?

Probably because he has dared to address all types of immorality, not just the usual birth control/abortion type of immorality.
 
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And? Pretty sure War Profiteers don't want peace, and what's wrong with praying for the environment, other than the fact that prayer will have no affect?

You said he wasn't political......uh, never mind that I guess.
 
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It really boils down to the Pope criticizing some parts of the Western culture, that are the engine to solving certain things important to the Pope. He criticizes capitalism in general, but it helps feed more people than anything done by eastern cultures. He needs to focus on enemies to our way of life....like ISIS. They would not only eliminate our culture, but kill the Pope and the Christian religion.

I don't think the Pope has said it's an either/or thing with "Western culture." It's perfectly rational and legitimate to praise capitalism and all the rest and also recognize that we're living in a time when some parts of it as practiced are out of whack, which is all I've seen him say. It's also possible for the Pope to express opinions on more than one topic, such as the current excesses of "capitalism" AND ISIS, etc...
 
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You said he wasn't political......uh, never mind that I guess.

Is he running for office? Is he raising an army? Putting up sanctions? War profiteers want war, it's a true statement. Is that political? Pretty sure the Pope would be anti-war on some general level particularly for the sake of raising profit. Jesus flips tables. So that's just a true statement, how is it political? Science has measured climate change and we see the effects, how is praying political? Is he donating to Al Gore or something?

No. In fact all we have here is another non-sequitur. It has nothing to do with ISIS.
 
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Is he running for office? Is he raising an army? Putting up sanctions? War profiteers want war, it's a true statement. Is that political? Pretty sure the Pope would be anti-war on some general level particularly for the sake of raising profit. Jesus flips tables. So that's just a true statement, how is it political? Science has measured climate change and we see the effects, how is praying political? Is he donating to Al Gore or something?

No. In fact all we have here is another non-sequitur. It has nothing to do with ISIS.
Irrelevant, you said his job wasn't to be political.
 
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Irrelevant, you said his job wasn't to be political.

He's not being political. An none of this has anything to do with Trump's quote that had nothing to do with the hypothetical posed to him.

Deflection kings here.
 
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You don't think there is greed under socialism or an Islamic system? There is where the Pope is misguided. He too focused on the West.

Of course, but saying there is greed in any system isn't actually a rebuttal to his comments about the excesses of Western "capitalism."
 
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