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BREWSTER, Wash. — The Obama administration has replaced immigration raids at factories and farms with a quieter enforcement strategy: sending federal agents to scour companies’ records for illegal immigrant workers.
While the sweeps of the past commonly led to the deportation of such workers, the “silent raids,” as employers call the audits, usually result in the workers being fired, but in many cases they are not deported. Over the past year, Immigration and Customs Enforcement has conducted audits of employee files at more than 2,900 companies. The agency has levied a record $3 million in civil fines so far this year on businesses that hired unauthorized immigrants, according to official figures. Thousands of those workers have been fired, immigrant groups estimate.
Employers say the audits reach more companies than the work-site roundups of the administration of President George W. Bush.
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=.../www.nytimes.com/2010/07/10/us/10enforce.html
Say what you will about the Obama admin's actions in regards to Az, he seems to be doing quite a decent job in this area.
Good idea. You can't clamp down on illegal immigration unless you attack the main reason they are coming here - Employers who are hiring them.
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=.../www.nytimes.com/2010/07/10/us/10enforce.html
Say what you will about the Obama admin's actions in regards to Az, he seems to be doing quite a decent job in this area.
Honestly, this is the best news I've heard from the current administration. $3 million in fines since the first of the year. I'm sure that's put a whole bunch of companies on notice. Notice the article talks about "Guest Workers." I believe this was initiated under GWB. They're allowed in on temporary visas. Sounds great to me.“And there is no drama, no trauma, no families being torn apart, no handcuffs.”
February 11 New York Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/12/us/12farm.htmlUnder the new rules, growers will no longer be able to attest that they tried to find American workers to fill jobs given to migrants, but will have to prove they conducted job searches. The Labor Department will establish a national electronic registry of farm jobs to assist the effort.
They're just getting fired . . . which leaves their families out of money and with NO help from the government/unemployment.
I guess for all the bad Obama does, once in a while he does good. Hope this keeps up.
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=.../www.nytimes.com/2010/07/10/us/10enforce.html
Say what you will about the Obama admin's actions in regards to Az, he seems to be doing quite a decent job in this area.
My only problem is those identified not being arrested. The rest sounds fantastic.
Indeed, while I don't think this is "bad", I think its a bit messy and with a double purpose.
I don't understand the assumption by many in this thread that "getting fired" means "Leaving". Do we have any evidence at all that any or a significant amount of these people left the country? Or that they stayed in the country, found a new job, etc?
If there's actual evidence the former is happening I'd definitely be more apt to applaud it. Without that there seems to be nothing but shuffling around where they're working and an obfuscation to say they're "doing something" without actually doing anything to illegals in reality
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=.../www.nytimes.com/2010/07/10/us/10enforce.html
Say what you will about the Obama admin's actions in regards to Az, he seems to be doing quite a decent job in this area.
Its a completely idiotic scheme
You lay off a bunch of illegals (many with criminal records) but theres no deportation!! lmao. The fired illegals will only take up new jobs.
The owners or directors of these companies should be thrown in jail and, the illegals rounded up and deported
Indeed, while I don't think this is "bad", I think its a bit messy and with a double purpose.
I don't understand the assumption by many in this thread that "getting fired" means "Leaving". Do we have any evidence at all that any or a significant amount of these people left the country? Or that they stayed in the country, found a new job, etc?
If there's actual evidence the former is happening I'd definitely be more apt to applaud it. Without that there seems to be nothing but shuffling around where they're working and an obfuscation to say they're "doing something" without actually doing anything to illegals in reality
And since Mexico encourages their people to come here illegally . . . and makes no effort to adequately support their own people . . . what makes you feel sure that they just won't hop the fence again?
And since Mexico encourages their people to come here illegally . . . and makes no effort to adequately support their own people . . . what makes you feel sure that they just won't hop the fence again?
And again
and again.
There's less to go back to in Mexico than there is here, even if you're here illegally and without real employment.
If, the US is going to be a country of laws and Illegals are breaking the law then why not deport them when caught?
Letting illegals roam free under our current circumstances is totally asinine
so we should surrender? Let them live here and ignore our own laws?
Rock and a hard place.
On one hand we could let them stay - turn a blind eye (like we've been doing) - and do nothin . . . but that obviously nets a LOT of other undesirable problems.
Yet on the other hand we could send them back over the border - unfortunately we all know they'll just come right back. There's nothing for them over there.
OR
We could reform the immigration system and put in provisions to permit them to actually earn citizenship if they meet various requirements. . .an 'in process' status. While going through that process over several years we can work on securing the border *and* building a better relation with mexico . . . so perhaps they won't *keep* coming over and immigrating.
OR - we could go extreme and just take over Mexico, absorb it into our country and be done with the whole border altogether :shrug:
None of these seem ideal or favorable but those are our options - that's it. they all have their ups and their downs.
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