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Do you focus on their entire holy book (or portions of it) - breaking it down to scriptural issues when stating your reasons to be against them or to have issues with?
Or do you focus on how they conduct their selves and what the general beliefs are and how they might apply those beliefs onto other people outside of their religion?
Do you focus on their entire holy book (or portions of it) - breaking it down to scriptural issues when stating your reasons to be against them or to have issues with?
Or do you focus on how they conduct their selves and what the general beliefs are and how they might apply those beliefs onto other people outside of their religion?
Do you focus on their entire holy book (or portions of it) - breaking it down to scriptural issues when stating your reasons to be against them or to have issues with?
Or do you focus on how they conduct their selves and what the general beliefs are and how they might apply those beliefs onto other people outside of their religion?
I was just asking a general "what's your approach or reasoning when discussing differences or taking a stance with other people on religious issues"
Some people refer *to* the scripture in debates and when taking issues with certain beliefs and so on.
Others refer to the actions and beliefs of that individual or group - because the actions sometimes differ from their religious book for various reasons.
Do you focus on their entire holy book (or portions of it) - breaking it down to scriptural issues when stating your reasons to be against them or to have issues with?
Or do you focus on how they conduct their selves and what the general beliefs are and how they might apply those beliefs onto other people outside of their religion?
You are entitled to you opinion. Others may disagree.If you don't believe in religion, I think your time and energy can be better spent in more substantial debates.
This is an open debate forum. Members are not required to present their claims and beliefs.Why would you want to talk someone out of their religion, unless they were in a dangerous cult?
Because beliefs inform our actions. Bad beliefs often result in bad actions.Yes the Bible contradicts itself, yes religious doctrine can be absurd, yes religion has had a history of suppressing creative ideas and advances in science and knowledge. But modern day religious people, for the most part, are simply taking comfort in the thought of a purpose and reason for life. They feel less alone in a community of like-minded people. What does it matter if they don't even understand their own beliefs?
I've told Christians that Christs real name, in English, would have been Joshua, from the Hebrew name Yeshua. I've told Christians that the word "Christ" was derived from a Hebrew religious ritual involving oil called "Chrism" to spiritually purify people or objects, mostly conducted by High Priests. I've told Christians that Christ did not fulfill all of the Messianic prophecies, not even half of them. But in the end, it doesn't matter. Most Christians don't know important details about their religion, but they still find comfort and fulfillment in the basic message of neighborly love and non-violence. You could say the same about any religion.
Buddha was an Indian prince, not some fat Chinese guy. Muhammad was illiterate and married a Jew. Moses killed a slave driver in his youth. Yadda, yadda, yadda.
For the most part, I believe I support what you are saying and I'm on your side.Despite the fact I believe some religious people do in fact believe in an enlightened form of Christianity compared to fundamentalists, i still find their claims to knowledge regarding the supernatural and divine both unwarranted and superfluous to what the evidence, reason, and reality dictate. They still are making decisions and choices based on poor or unwarranted beliefs.
For the most part, I believe I support what you are saying and I'm on your side.
But a lot of people have "unwarranted beliefs" that are "poorly supported" and cause them to take illogical action. You could say the same thing about political beliefs you disagree with. But you can't simply talk people out of what they believe. You could say the same thing about atheism, since atheism attempts to prove a negative, which is logically impossible. I despise religion, but I also support the right to practice it unabridged by the Law. I'm a free speech guy.
I support others to practice their religion as well. However, I have the right to live my life free from their religious practices.
I support others to practice their religion as well. However, I have the right to live my life free from their religious practices.
Do you focus on their entire holy book (or portions of it) - breaking it down to scriptural issues when stating your reasons to be against them or to have issues with?
Or do you focus on how they conduct their selves and what the general beliefs are and how they might apply those beliefs onto other people outside of their religion?
Not really. You have a right to disagree, protest, and debate religious people but your right to live your life free of religious beliefs and practices ends at your own private property.
Today two nice looking well dressed young men knocked on my door. I had a feeling they were Mormons. When they said they were and was I familiar with it? I said Yes! Two of my favorite guys are Mormons, Glenn Beck and Mitt Romney! But I'm not interested in organized religion, so have a nice day. I got away with only accepting a little card from them.
I can't stand somebody trying to push their religion on me. They didn't push and I didn't have to stand there and listen for twenty minutes this time.
I think it should be illegal for people to go up to people's private property in order to solicit them for religious activities. I think that's nothing but trespassing, and if someone did that to me, I'd probably open the door but keep the screen door latched, and do it while wearing only my tighty-whities and a pair of socks while brandishing my shotgun and kindly ask them to leave me alone before I designate them as intruders on my private property and do something about it.
But in the Deep South, that's not such a strange fashion...
No - People's right to practice their religion ends at their own private property.
I think it should be illegal for people to go up to people's private property in order to solicit them for religious activities. I think that's nothing but trespassing, and if someone did that to me, I'd probably open the door but keep the screen door latched, and do it while wearing only my tighty-whities and a pair of socks while brandishing my shotgun and kindly ask them to leave me alone before I designate them as intruders on my private property and do something about it.
But in the Deep South, that's not such a strange fashion...
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