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If you find gay/trans perverted, why?

SoccerCoach said:
Homosexuality is normal and created by a genetic predisposition and a trigger during early development.
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Citation? Esp. for that latter part.

SoccerCoach said:
Thats why identical twins are both gay 53% of the time. Transgender ideology is symptom of a socially contagious mental disorder much like eating disorders and cutting. In every case we find a premorbid personality disorder or emotional disturbance. This is not to be confused with abnormal secondary sexual development referred incorrectly as intersex. XXY are males thats Kleinfelder's Syndrome, Y females are Turners syndrome. Swyers Syndrome are males with partial non functional ovaries.
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Lisa said:
On what information do you base this decision?
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I would argue one's natural one requires medical intervention. After that one is just someone being sexually attracted to the the same sex and the other is requiring everyone around them to play along.
 
ModernDiogenes said:
I have to admit it’s a guy of a certain era thing.

I am all for love who you love but I’m not going to lie about the fact that if I saw two attractive women in a PDA I’d take a second look before I politely averted my gaze. If it was two guys I’d cringe a little. I don’t begrudge them their mutual, consensual, affection. I’d just rather not be an observer of it.

I get that’s a me problem.
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I would think this would be the case for most straight men.
 
craig said:
That is the point. Like all things it is a continuum including sex and gender.
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No it's not. I cannot tell if he's cross-dressing but I most certainly can tell he's a man. Clothing can be made ambiguous some of it is made ambiguous on purpose.

Humans are sexually dimorphic
craig said:
There is no bright line.
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It's pretty obvious to probably even a 3-year-old that this is a man. You gave an example of where the line is ultra bright.
 
CLAX1911 said:
Female gender identity is gibberish they are men wearing women's clothes that's what they'll always be I don't care if they're identify as a leprechaun from Jupiter.

Then maybe trans people should start calling this out. Demand that weirdos quit making them look like perverts fetishize womanhood. This hurts trans people the most.
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I can’t get worked up over how people a rrange bits of cloth, feathers, etc upon themselves.

I think style is just style. i get people use it like a sign to hold up and make declarations. That’s their decision but that makes it also their problem.

Past the entertainment value I don’t have time for deep thought about how people decide to adorn themselves, nor do I care as long as the right parts are all covered dependent of the societal norm circumstances. :LOL:
 
ModernDiogenes said:
I can’t get worked up over how people a rrange bits of cloth, feathers, etc upon themselves.
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Agreed and it certainly doesn't matter
ModernDiogenes said:
I think style is just style. i get people use it like a sign to hold up and make declarations. That’s their decision but that makes it also their problem.
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Meh some people wear stuff just because they feel like wearing it more power to them.
ModernDiogenes said:
Past the entertainment value I don’t have time for deep thought about how people decide to adorn themselves, nor do I care as long as the right parts are all covered dependent of the societal norm circumstances. :LOL:
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Agreed
 
I don’t think homosexuality and trans are linked.
 
CLAX1911 said:
Only in the fact that they are sexual minorities so when it comes to demographics these groups are all too small to be separated as individuals of a classify them together.
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Huh?
 
CLAX1911 said:
It's typically referred to as LGBT.

Despite lesbians not really having anything to do with gays or trans people.
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Yes gay people can be gay regardless of what I think but trans people need me to believe like tinkerbell.
 
Real blank said:
Yes gay people can be gay regardless of what I think but trans people need me to believe like tinkerbell.
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Yeah that's the difference I notice. Gay people just go along doing their thing but you need to acknowledge trans people and pretend that they're the sex that identify with.
 
Crakhobarbie said:
What the what?
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I understood what he meant.

For example if I was to say a trans woman is a man of identifies as a woman I would be told that I'm transfer that I can they really are women despite the fact that they're not.

Essentially I have to deny reality to be an ally. At least with regard to the way some people think. There are certainly a wide variance of opinions and dew points from actual trans people regarding this.
 
Maidenrules29 said:
Maybe normal to them. Biologically it is not. So yes it is unnatural.
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Its is biologically normal for a small minority of the population to be gay. Its statistically predictable as well. Heterosexuality is the normal for the majority.
 
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