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If you find gay/trans perverted, why?

craig said:
The two sexes evolved from one. Why do you think evolution has stopped at two?
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Nobody said it stopped that's just where it is now. There is absolutely no spectrum it doesn't exist.

Prehistoric ancestors don't really matter.
 
ModernDiogenes said:
I have to admit it’s a guy of a certain era thing.

I am all for love who you love but I’m not going to lie about the fact that if I saw two attractive women in a PDA I’d take a second look before I politely averted my gaze. If it was two guys I’d cringe a little. I don’t begrudge them their mutual, consensual, affection. I’d just rather not be an observer of it.

I get that’s a me problem.
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Thank you for giving a reasoned response.
 
Gardener said:
It said trans in the very title of the thread.

I am sorry that you are illiterate.
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It said trans in reference to be found disgusting, not as a conduit to conducting a rant about trans women in sports. I'm sorry you're obsessed.
 
armycowboy said:
It said trans in reference to be found disgusting, not as a conduit to conducting a rant about trans women in sports. I'm sorry you're obsessed.
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I don't think the objection to cheating women out of their own sport is the same as being disgusted by trans people. I've met trans people that object to it.

That being said it seems to be the forefront of some people's thoughts.
 
Crakhobarbie said:
Read post 97.
Then, if you like, you may respond to my comment.

I'm beginning to like you.
You're a fun person.
I can tell.
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It's on another page. I never go backward in life. I leave that for the cult.
 
Crakhobarbie said:
How do you get out of parking spaces?
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As we all do in NYC.
We pull up till we hit the car un front than the same to the car behind us.

Generally doing thus twice will allow enough space to pull out and drive straight ahead.
 
I'll approach this from a different perspective. I'm gay and I grew up in the Southern Baptist church. Not ingrained, but because of what I was taught in church, I found the thought of two men kissing or having sex disgusting. I hated myself because I knew I preferred men but was taught the act was unnatural. I tried to hide my sexuality and had girlfriends in high school and my early college years. I truly loved them and we were intimate but I knew what my preference was.

I came out in my early 20's. It was a tough few years going into the gay scene but eventually I learned to love myself and have been with my hubby for 35 years.

The point of my post is that anti-trans and gay sentiment is learned. Had I not been taught it, I would have never had a second thought about it. Also, I think some "straight" people are actually gay and are hiding it. That makes them hate gay people because they see themselves in that scenario and want to erase it.
 
dseag2 said:
I'll approach this from a different perspective. I'm gay and I grew up in the Southern Baptist church. Not ingrained, but because of what I was taught in church, I found the thought of two men kissing or having sex disgusting. I hated myself because I knew I preferred men but was taught the act was unnatural. I tried to hide my sexuality and had girlfriends in high school and my early college years. I truly loved them and we were intimate but I knew what my preference was.

I came out in my early 20's. It was a tough few years going into the gay scene but eventually I learned to love myself and have been with my hubby for 35 years.

The point of my post is that anti-trans and gay sentiment is learned. Had I not been taught it, I would have never had a second thought about it. Also, I think some "straight" people are actually gay and are hiding it. That makes them hate gay people because they see themselves in that scenario and want to erase it.
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I didn't even think of it this way. But yeah I had a lot of disgust for myself and projecting it outward sort of made me feel temporarily better.

I agree it's definitely taught. There will always be that different but there are so many ways for all different than each other.

I do agree with you there's some people that are okay and they don't want to admit it and they'll never admit it to themselves it's there once I believe I never would. But I think there's another component. I think people don't like the idea that really not gay by for lack of a better way of saying this the grace of God. And something you can't help that it might just affect someone close to them and I think people believe that there is a power in denial. If they think they let themselves think for a minute that people can't control whether or not they're gay then they have to reconcile that with all the times they said that it's a choice. More than that they might have to accept something that they have been told was God himself as maybe not actually being God himself but something divides to buy man and that can be wrong.
 
Crakhobarbie said:
I flipped it fine.
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You didn't on your first attempt.
Your 2nd attempt (below) is a much more logical comparison
Crakhobarbie said:
By that way of thinking, a heterosexual female should be able to be happy even if not allowed to act or dress as a heterosexual female.
Otherwise she'd be obsessively heterosexual.
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Yes. Engaging in sex makes life more enjoyable. But it is neither necessary nor sufficient for happiness. A person can be happy even if they are unable to engage in sex. Anyone who cannot be happy without sex is obsessed with sex. So yes, the 1st part of your comparison is correct. A heterosexual female (or male) should be able to be happy even if unable to engage in heterosexual sex.
Same with a person's gender identity. Dressing and behaving according to one's gender identity makes life more enjoyable. But if one cannot be happy without doing so, then they are obsessed with it. So, the 2nd part of your comparison is also correct.
 
Lisa said:
You don't seem to understand the difference between a crossdresser and someone who is transfemale.
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I know the difference. Thank you.
Lisa said:
Would you dare say a women who is cisgender is obsessed with being female just because of how she acts or dresses?
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No. I would only refer to her as obsessive if her happiness depends on dressing and behaving female. And I do know a few women who do fit that description. But most women I know do not.
 
Randomutation said:
Anyone who cannot be happy without sex is obsessed with sex.
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You know, you have a dictionary built into every search engine, right?
By definition, an "obsession" would likely involve a compulsive and uncontrollable preoccupation with sexual thoughts and urges, as well as behaviors that are excessive and interfere with other aspects of life.

If I may offer a friendly piece of advice...
Less posting, more research.
Wink, wink.

Not to worry. Even "as is", you fit right in with the right wingers.
 
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