If you find gay/trans perverted, why? (2 Viewers)

[CLAX1911]

Nobody is being forced, they are free to ****ing quit if they're scared of the competition.

So why did they get such scrutiny when they do that?

 

[Gardener]

Nobody is being forced, they are free to ****ing quit if they're scared of the competition.

Speaking of "liberal values," the ACLU disagrees with you on this one as does the actual science.

Then again, wouldn't expect a genocide lover to be a reliable barometer of "liberal values" anyway.

They are being forced when they have scholarships revoked and are intimidated into acquiescing.


You comment about being a genocide lover is beyond the pale, but par for the course here..

 

[Hamish Howl]

I never said that gay people are doing anything to women. Is English not your first language?

As far as men who say they are women are concerned, this is indisputable

Then you should have no trouble proving it.

 

[Hamish Howl]

You flipped it wrong.
I made a distinction between how a person feels (trans) and how they dress and/or behave.
A trans female should be able to be happy even if not dressing or behaving female. If their happiness depends on dressing/behaving female, then I consider them to be obsessed with being female.
Your question made different distinctions - between being cis or trans. Not relevant to what I call obsessive.

Why should you be permitted to tell them how to dress?

 

[Real blank]

People are quite weird sexually. If you are into something You like it but if you don’t it seems somewhat bizarre.I have the opposite of a foot fetish but whatever people are into is fine.

 

[Crakhobarbie]

A trans female should be able to be happy even if not dressing or behaving female.

I flipped it fine.

By that way of thinking, a heterosexual female should be able to be happy even if not allowed to act or dress as a heterosexual female.
Otherwise she'd be obsessively heterosexual.

 

[Crakhobarbie]

They are being forced when they have scholarships revoked

Please cite a female athlete who's scholarship was revoked because she refused to compete against a trans woman.

 

[craig]

Same-sex sexual behavior has been documented in all great ape species, including bonobos, chimpanzees, orangutans, and gorillas. While it's common and varied in bonobos, it's relatively rarer in chimpanzees and orangutans. In gorillas, homosexual behavior has been observed in both males and females, particularly in bachelor groups of males.

 

[Real blank]

Same-sex sexual behavior has been documented in all great ape species, including bonobos, chimpanzees, orangutans, and gorillas. While it's common and varied in bonobos, it's relatively rarer in chimpanzees and orangutans. In gorillas, homosexual behavior has been observed in both males and females, particularly in bachelor groups of males.

And most people in England who went to public schools (means the opposite)

 

[Crakhobarbie]

Same-sex sexual behavior has been documented in all great ape species, including bonobos, chimpanzees, orangutans, and gorillas. While it's common and varied in bonobos, it's relatively rarer in chimpanzees and orangutans. In gorillas, homosexual behavior has been observed in both males and females, particularly in bachelor groups of males.

True,
and theres more.
Same sex sexual activity has been observed and documented in over 1500 species. This includes various groups like mammals, birds, reptiles, fish, and even insects. These behaviors range from simple social bonding to sexual encounters, and are observed in both male and female animals, both in captivity and in the wild.
This proves beyond a doubt that same sex sexual activity, while not as prevalent as opposite sex sexual activity, is every bit as natural.

1,500 animal species practice homosexuality

Homosexuality is quite common in the animal kingdom, especially among herding animals. Many animals solve conflicts by practicing same gender sex.

www.google.com

Experts underreport same-sex sexual behaviors in animal studies

Researchers find same-sex sexual behavior in animals is massively underreported, with experts underreporting their observations.

www.google.com

Gay behaviour is the norm for most animals, study finds

Experts led by Spain's Estación Experimental de Zonas Áridas reviewed the scientific literature related to gay behaviour in animals and created a database of their findings.

www.google.com

 

[CLAX1911]

They are being forced when they have scholarships revoked and are intimidated into acquiescing.


You comment about being a genocide lover is beyond the pale, but par for the course here..

They won't accept the reality that if you share opportunities with men that are specifically for women than women are necessarily disenfranchised

 

[Lisa]

You flipped it wrong.
I made a distinction between how a person feels (trans) and how they dress and/or behave.
A trans female should be able to be happy even if not dressing or behaving female. If their happiness depends on dressing/behaving female, then I consider them to be obsessed with being female.
Your question made different distinctions - between being cis or trans. Not relevant to what I call obsessive.

You don't seem to understand the difference between a crossdresser and someone who is transfemale. Would you dare say a women who is cisgender is obsessed with being female just because of how she acts or dresses?

 

[CLAX1911]

You don't seem to understand the difference between a crossdresser and someone who is transfemale.

Well they're both crossdressers. It's just there's a little more psychological involvement with the trans person

Would you dare say a women who is cisgender is obsessed with being female just because of how she acts or dresses?

If she films herself going into the women's bathroom and making that a big deal for some reason then yes.

 

[Lisa]

Well they're both crossdressers. It's just there's a little more psychological involvement with the trans person

They logically cant both be crossdressers if one has a female gender identity.

If she films herself going into the women's bathroom and making that a big deal for some reason then yes.

That's called an influencer, or exhibitionist.

 

[CLAX1911]

They logically cant both be crossdressers if one has a female gender identity.

Female gender identity is gibberish they are men wearing women's clothes that's what they'll always be I don't care if they're identify as a leprechaun from Jupiter.

That's called an influencer, or exhibitionist.

Then maybe trans people should start calling this out. Demand that weirdos quit making them look like perverts fetishize womanhood. This hurts trans people the most.

 

[Lisa]

Female gender identity is gibberish there a man wearing women's clothes that's what they'll always be I don't care if they're identify as a leprechaun from Jupiter.

Your simplistic opinions do not change the facts.

Then maybe trans people should start calling this out. Demand that weirdos quit making them look like perverts fetishize womanhood. This hurts trans people the most.

Why would anyone associate influencers or exhibitionists with trans people? Trans females dont get to police what is or isn't female, just as cis females dont get to police who is transgender. That is known as gatekeeping. Once again you dont understand gender identity.

 

[craig]

Female gender identity is gibberish they are men wearing women's clothes that's what they'll always be I don't care if they're identify as a leprechaun from Jupiter.

Then maybe trans people should start calling this out. Demand that weirdos quit making them look like perverts fetishize womanhood. This hurts trans people the most.

 

[Gardener]

They won't accept the reality that if you share opportunities with men that are specifically for women than women are necessarily disenfranchised

They WANT women to be hurt.

There are myriad reasons why, but none of them healthy.

 

[Phys251]

They WANT women to be hurt.

There are myriad reasons why, but none of them healthy.

Only social cons want women to be hurt against their will.

 

[ModernDiogenes]

I have to admit it’s a guy of a certain era thing.

I am all for love who you love but I’m not going to lie about the fact that if I saw two attractive women in a PDA I’d take a second look before I politely averted my gaze. If it was two guys I’d cringe a little. I don’t begrudge them their mutual, consensual, affection. I’d just rather not be an observer of it.

I get that’s a me problem.

 

[CLAX1911]

They WANT women to be hurt.

I'm not sure that's the motive. They want to be women and hurt people in their selfishness

There are myriad reasons why, but none of them healthy.

I think the predominant reason is forcing people to accept it. That will absolutely backfire it always does.

 

[CLAX1911]

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I'm not sure he's even cross-dressing in this picture.

 

[craig]

I'm not sure he's even cross-dressing in this picture.

That is the point. Like all things it is a continuum including sex and gender. There is no bright line.

 

[CLAX1911]

That is the point. Like all things it is a continuum including sex and gender. There is no bright line.

No it's not with sex. Your body either has the structures to the egg or a sperm. There is nothing else. That is absolutely a bright line.

Tinder with reference to anything other than sex is just about social roles and otherwise meaningless.

 

[craig]

No it's not with sex. Your body either has the structures to the egg or a sperm. There is nothing else. That is absolutely a bright line.

Tinder with reference to anything other than sex is just about social roles and otherwise meaningless.

The two sexes evolved from one. Why do you think evolution has stopped at two?