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If Trump is not behaving as an authoritarian
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Fascists don't fire thousands of government workers, nor do they try to reduce government regulations (they greatly increase them), nor to they ever try to reduce the roll of the state regarding the education of children. Instead, they centralize power, expand bureaucracy, and impose top-down control over every aspect of life.
Trump definitely has an authoritarian streak, but he is not a fascist.
Pro tip: learn what words mean before using them.
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Damn, I am pretty good a predicting the responses.
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"War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength."
You can add to that "fascism is liberty."
You can add to that "fascism is liberty."
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Well, except that fascists have historically rolled back regulations - especially around labor protections, unions, legal due process, etc. And they’ve purged government agencies of individuals they saw as not ideologically aligned, attacked teachers and educational institutions…
But hey…if we ignore what has happened in fascist regimes of the past, then your post makes sense
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Well, except that fascists have historically rolled back regulations - especially around labor protections, unions, legal due process, etc.
But hey…if we ignore what has happened in fascist regimes of the past, then your post makes sense
Typical example of why right-libertarianism/anarcho-capitalist thought is completely incoherent.
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This is backwards. Fascists do fire thousands of disloyal government workers, and they reduce government regulations that get in the way of consolidating power while expanding regulations that centralize power and give them the authority to use military force to keep order. Fascists also greatly reduce bureaucracy, since bureaucracy by its very nature is an impediment to efficiency in government action. Fascist leaders don't want to get permission from others in the government before they act. Who does that sound like?
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It is going to be fun to watch folks start to realize that they've been played.Well, except that fascists have historically rolled back regulations - especially around labor protections, unions, legal due process, etc. And they’ve purged government agencies of individuals they saw as not ideologically aligned, attacked teachers and educational institutions…
But hey…if we ignore what has happened in fascist regimes of the past, then your post makes sense
I wonder how deep into destruction we will have to get before we get to that inflection point for the average MAGA.
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Fascists took the title of 'socialist' because it was popular. Like the word "progressive" today.'
The translated name is the National Socialist.
Their policies paralleled only in the government seizure of private assets, Socialists wanted to take from the rich. Nazi's took from Jews.
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My experience is that it will take a long, long time for them to realize how deeply they've been had.....and even longer to admit it.
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an-caps legit make zero sense in their ideology. Actual anarchism is against all forms of heirachies, capitalism insentivises them economically lol.
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Obama sends in ICE and collectively deports 5 MILLION illegal immigrants. What a guy.
Trump sends in ICE to un**** the damage caused by the demented rat retard you all put in office....OHMIGARSH!!! FASCIST!!! FASCIST!!!!!!
The answer remains clear. Its not Trump. Its you.
Trump sends in ICE to un**** the damage caused by the demented rat retard you all put in office....OHMIGARSH!!! FASCIST!!! FASCIST!!!!!!
The answer remains clear. Its not Trump. Its you.
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"But, something else!"
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I agree. Its always 'something else when the same rat supporters that embraced action under their puny rat gods shit themselves on command when Trump does the exact same thing.
Like I said...its not about Obama...or Biden...or Trump.
Its the hypocrite leftists.
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**** Obama also.
"That guy was also doing fascist shit!" is not a defense against accusations of ****ing fascism.
The answer remains clear. YOU'RE a fascist, the idea that you guys can call yourselves "libertarian" is hilarious, Orwellian doublethink.
Whats actually hilarious is that according to you, Obama and Biden's immigration policies aren't that far off from Trump's (and you'd be right). The problem is y'all mother****ers were calling them "open borders socialists" the whole time their policies were almost as fascist as Trump's.
And AS an ACTUAL open-borders socialist, that's hilarious to me.
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I am saving this in my collection as classic over-simplification to reduce an issue to idiocy.
It's the GOP's main tool
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See, the thing is? Many of them don’t care.
They’re fine with right wing nationalism trending towards fascism - as long as it means they can snub their noses and win over “woke” and “liberals” and “progressives” and thumb their suspenders and feel righteous about their bigotry.
Underlying all of it is a vein of racism and bigotry and…scratch the surface…fear and inadequacy.
The people championing this are aggrieved. And they’re afraid. More diversity, more equity, more inclusion? More equality?
That means they have to compete. They have to actually be better to do better…and they don’t want to be better. They want privilege.
So…they’re being played like a fiddle to fall for the culture wars bullshit and bend the knee. Thinking that if they do, they’re going to wind up somehow better off.
They won’t. But they’re ok with that…because at least they feel ok being bigots
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Lol yup **** Obama, **** Biden, **** W Bush, **** Clinton, **** H W, **** Regan etc. So on and so on.
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Leftists: Why is Trump sending in the National Guard to stop our riots? FASCIST!!!!
Also leftists: Why didnt Trump send in the nation Guard to stop the January 6 riot??!!!??? FASCIST!!!
Oh...wait...he offered 10k troops in advance and was denied by both Pelosi and Bowser...and then the Guard actually DID respond...less than 3 hours after the initial entry.
Wha...well...I mean...still FASCIST!!!! FASCIST!!!!! FAAAASSSSCCCCIIIIIIIIIIISSSSTTTT!!!!!!!!
Also leftists: Why didnt Trump send in the nation Guard to stop the January 6 riot??!!!??? FASCIST!!!
Oh...wait...he offered 10k troops in advance and was denied by both Pelosi and Bowser...and then the Guard actually DID respond...less than 3 hours after the initial entry.
Wha...well...I mean...still FASCIST!!!! FASCIST!!!!! FAAAASSSSCCCCIIIIIIIIIIISSSSTTTT!!!!!!!!
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OH...I SEE...so now...NOW....you think Obama was a fascist...is that right? 1-You are a little late to the game...and 2-None of you even bothered to pretend to give a **** about the poor little immigrants that THAT 'fascist' was deporting.
But by all means.......dig deeper.
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Right wingers when Obama and Biden are in power: OPEN BOARDERSSSSS THEY'RE RAPING YOUR KIDS THEY'RE EATING THE CATS AND THE DOGS.
Right wingers when Trump is in power: YOU'RE CRAZY, OBAMA IS JUST AS FASCIST AS US.
Actual leftists in response to point number 2: "Yes we agree."
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Now...lets be consistent.
Under Obama...right wingers opposed illegal immigration and supported deportation. Under Trump, right wingers oppose illegal immigration and support deportation.
Leftists cheered on illegal immigration AND gave quaint little golf claps...and then nodded in approval at the deporter in chief. And now with Trump, stopping illegal immigration and deporting illegal immigrants...well...you know the rest.
Because TRRRRUUUUUMMMMMPPPPPPP!!!!.
Its not him...its you.
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Union membership was mandatory in fascist Italy:
Furthermore, no collectivist ideology has ever allowed "labor protections".
Mussolini was a former school teacher himself.
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Mussolini and Hitler and Salazar abolished private labor unions.
And also rewrote educational texts so that they reflected his ideology. And teachers had to swear allegiance.
Try again.