If mitt romney is the nominee who do you vote for

[Psychoclown]

OK stand by your convictions people ask yourselves some hard questions about what happened when you refused to vote for McCain. Would super lib Soda be on the supreme court?

Probably not, but I don't think McCain would've nominated a hard right justice. I would've expected a moderate conservative justice.

Would gulf oil wells have been shut down?

Probably. Presidents can't help but feel the need to do SOMETHING during a disaster.

Would we be trillions more in debt?

Yup. McCain would've still bailed out the banks and passed a huge, ineffective "stimulus" bill. Different pockets would've been lined and different demographics would've benefited, but we'd still see massive spending.

Would gas prices have doubled?

Yup.

Would the economy still be on life support?

Yup. McCain's version of a stimulus bill would've been just as lousy and ineffective as Obama's. And besides that, economic ups and downs tend to be beyond the control of President's and Congress's. The economy would've been in the crapper no matter who was elected.

Would we have Obama care?

No, we'd have McCainCare. Healthcare was a major issue 4 years ago and McCain would've felt pressure to get something passed. But he would've needed the Democratic congress to support him, so I think we'd still would've got a monsterous overreaching bill that did nothing to solve the problem it was supposed to address. The specifics might have been different, but either way we would've got some sort of big government healthcare "reform".

Would we have spent billions bombing Libya?

Almost certainly. McCain is very much a military interventionist.

Would Mr and Mrs McCain take their own 747s on vacations around the world?

Yup. All President's take vacations and retreats. Remember how people used to gripe about Bush going to Crawford Texas all the time? The fact is the Presidency is a 24/7 job and there is no real vacation from it. Only simpletons and partisan hacks complain a bout a President's vacations.

I could go on all night but hopefully you get my point?

I could go on all night too. While there are some differences between McCain and Obama (and Romney and Obama), there are far more similarities. They are all cut from the same cloth (as is GWB). Rudderless, unprincipled big government moderates who's main objective is their own election.

 

[Sunbelt]

27 Obamacrats and counting.... mercy.

 

[LuckyDan]

27 Obamacrats and counting.... mercy.

I just heard Rush say in a snippet posted on RCP that the dems want to run against Romney, which is why you hear them say he's the only one that they worry about. Could be. They did that with McCain in 2000, too.

They've never attacked Mitt with anywhere near the viciousness with which they have attacked the cons. They really do seem to be stepping aside for him.

Still, we need a candidate sooner than later. If not Mitt, then Santorum. Just because he's the one they want doesn't mean they can beat him.

Here's the audio.

Limbaugh: Dems Want To Run Against Romney | RealClearPolitics

 

[Catawba]

because you aren't doing what is needed to get him out of office with your vote

voting third party is idiotic given how bad Obama is

Some think there is no difference between the the two parties.

 

[Catawba]

Not to derail the thread, but I just don't understand this reaction in the GOP to move further to the right. It may be ideologically more "pure" but it certainly won't win an election by a long shot.

And I don't understand why the Turtledude (the guy that refers to the middle class as parasites) liked your post.

 

[haymarket]

I just heard Rush say in a snippet posted on RCP that the dems want to run against Romney, which is why you hear them say he's the only one that they worry about. Could be. They did that with McCain in 2000, too.

They've never attacked Mitt with anywhere near the viciousness with which they have attacked the cons. They really do seem to be stepping aside for him.

Still, we need a candidate sooner than later. If not Mitt, then Santorum. Just because he's the one they want doesn't mean they can beat him.

Here's the audio.

Limbaugh: Dems Want To Run Against Romney | RealClearPolitics

The average city garbage man has more basic common sense that Limbaugh does about the country, its government and its problems.

 

[kamikaze483]

And I don't understand why the Turtledude (the guy that refers to the middle class as parasites) liked your post.

He was probably referring to low class public assistance receivers rather than the middle class, and he was probably referring to a specific subclass of the public assistance receivers- the ones who make no effort to extricate themselves from the need for the assistance. The lifetime government dependants. Then he would have been correct in calling them parasites.

 

[Turin]

It would interesting to see if Paul or Huntsman were the nominee how they would fare against Obama ... with this same group voting.

Overall I would give Obama a B ... some areas an A and he would get in a D in finance reform.

He would likely earn my vote although it is not set in stone. I am undecided.

Huntsman ... if he were the challenger he would get a very close consideration from me.

Paul ... I like him on some issues and others he just seems like a loose cannon. He is like the crazy genius uncle who is off balance yet at other times right on target and profound.

Against Romney ... Obama gets my vote.

 

[Conservative]

If Romney is the nominee it will be great getting an adult back in the WH and send your Community Organizer Incompetent President back to Chicago and back to Reverend Wright

 

[poweRob]

If Romney is the nominee it will be great getting an adult back in the WH and send your Community Organizer Incompetent President back to Chicago and back to Reverend Wright

You left out Bill Ayers and Karl Marx in your irrelevant name calling rant.

 

[AdamT]

If Romney is the nominee it will be great getting an adult back in the WH and send your Community Organizer Incompetent President back to Chicago and back to Reverend Wright

Ah, I knew you were a liberal all along. Welcome to the club!

 

[Frolicking Dinosaurs]

Undecided. If Obama keeps Biden and Romney adds a good VP, I might vote for Romney. Reason, Obama / Biden has not been a great team and Romney / good VP might be better.

If Obama adds Hillary to his ticket, wild horses couldn't get me to vote GOP.

 

[AdamT]

Undecided. If Obama keeps Biden and Romney adds a good VP, I might vote for Romney. Reason, Obama / Biden has not been a great team and Romney / good VP might be better.

If Obama adds Hillary to his ticket, wild horses couldn't get me to vote GOP.

Surprised you place that much importance on the VP. With the exception of Cheney, Bush's puppet master, VP is a pretty insignificant position.

 

[Turin]

Surprised you place that much importance on the VP. With the exception of Cheney, Bush's puppet master, VP is a pretty insignificant position.

I agree they are insignificant in the actual presidency.

I will say if they select a completely unsuitable or complete idiot it says something about decision making.

When McCain chose Palin ... he thought he was going to win some votes and in actuality many saw this as committing political malpractice and he lost votes. Seriously ... I lost respect.

 

[LuckyDan]

Undecided. If Obama keeps Biden and Romney adds a good VP, I might vote for Romney. Reason, Obama / Biden has not been a great team and Romney / good VP might be better.

If Obama adds Hillary to his ticket, wild horses couldn't get me to vote GOP.

He needs to do it quick, if he's going to do it. There's no sign so far that he is thinking of it. If his plan is to run against Wall Street and Congress, he really doesn't have to dump Joe.

 

[AdamT]

I agree they are insignificant in the actual presidency.

I will say if they select a completely unsuitable or complete idiot it says something about decision making.

When McCain chose Palin ... he thought he was going to win some votes and in actuality many saw this as committing political malpractice and he lost votes. Seriously ... I lost respect.

I agree with that. The actual choice does say something about the presidential candidate. It was also more significant with McCain due to his age.

 

[Catawba]

He was probably referring to low class public assistance receivers rather than the middle class

You haven't been here very long, have you?

Originally posted by TurtleDude - MOre complete crap. the middle class get more entitlements because the middle class has the most votes and politicians buy their votes with the money of the rich by giving the middle class more handouts.

Originally posted by TurtleDude - that is complete crap. remember-we can outsource labor

Originally posted by TurtleDude - BTW the middle class can deduct their charitable contributions Obama wants to change things so the rich could not get full credit for deductions.

Originally posted by TurtleDude - the middle class is paying less of the tax burden now than at any time in the last 60 years yet they use more of the government services than the rich

Originally posted by TurtleDude - the vast majority of the middle class does not pay a higher effective tax rate than the 400-1000 top earners who have only investment income.

Originally posted by TurtleDude - the middle class benefits the most from government programs.

 

[Conservative]

Undecided. If Obama keeps Biden and Romney adds a good VP, I might vote for Romney. Reason, Obama / Biden has not been a great team and Romney / good VP might be better.

If Obama adds Hillary to his ticket, wild horses couldn't get me to vote GOP.

The Obama results should keep people away from voting for him but to each their own, apparently some care more about what he says vs. what he has done.

 

[Far right dem]

The Obama results should keep people away from voting for him but to each their own, apparently some care more about what he says vs. what he has done.

That's what romney is hoping. People only care about what he says now opposed to his liberal record in Massachusetts.

 

[Catawba]

That's what romney is hoping. People only care about what he says now opposed to his liberal record in Massachusetts.

What, you don't think Romney can fulfill his promise to cut taxes for the wealthy even more, increase our military spending to more than the rest of the world combined, and balance the budget???

 

[Far right dem]

What, you don't think Romney can fulfill his promise to cut taxes for the wealthy even more, increase our military spending to more than the rest of the world combined, and balance the budget???

Im just hoping cons see romney for the flipflopping phony he is. The guy will say whatever he needs to. Watch him run back to the middle when he secures the nomination.

 

[American]

Surprised you place that much importance on the VP. With the exception of Cheney, Bush's puppet master, VP is a pretty insignificant position.

Could you just stop with the puppetmaster, it was never true. Anyway, a good VP does serve an adversary role (if he has a broad background) and as a spokesman for the President on select issues. Unfortunately, Biden didn't pan out as expected. He was suppose to provide valuable foreign policy guidance to Obama, since Obama lacked in that area. Frankly I don't think he helped Obama at all.

 

[Conservative]

That's what romney is hoping. People only care about what he says now opposed to his liberal record in Massachusetts.

Romney has a record to run on including saving companies, i.e. Staples, Sports Academy, growing employment, balancing the state budget. What exactly where Obama's accomplishments when you voted for him and better yet what are his accomplishments right now. They are so bad he runs from them.

 

[Conservative]

Im just hoping cons see Obama for the flipflopping phony he is. The guy will say whatever he needs to. Watch him run back to the left when he secures the nomination.

LOL, changed it for you for accuracy

 

[AdamT]

Romney has a record to run on including saving companies, i.e. Staples, Sports Academy, growing employment, balancing the state budget. What exactly where Obama's accomplishments when you voted for him and better yet what are his accomplishments right now. They are so bad he runs from them.

Yeah, what DID Obama do while Mitt was wringing cash out of troubled businesses and lining his own pockets?

He sponsored legislation to bar job and housing discrimination against gays, and he helped create a state version of the earned income tax credit for the poor. Obama also led efforts to reject federal rules that would have put workers' overtime checks in jeopardy.

With the assistance of Senator Jones, Mr. Obama helped deliver what is said to have been the first significant campaign finance reform law in Illinois in 25 years. He brought law enforcement groups around to back legislation requiring that homicide interrogations be taped and helped bring about passage of the state's first racial-profiling law. He was a chief sponsor of a law enhancing tax credits for the working poor, played a central role in negotiations over welfare reform and successfully pushed for increasing child care subsidies.

During his last two years, Democrats controlled the chamber and he was the go-to guy on a variety of issues. He helped pass legislation overhauling Illinois' troubled capital punishment system and was a key figure in requiring a massive statewide study of traffic stops to look for signs of racial profiling. Although police groups opposed the legislation, they say Obama listened to their concerns and accepted some of their suggestions to improve the bill.
Even when he was in the political minority, Obama sometimes played a critical role. He helped write one of the rare ethics laws in a state known for government corruption and worked on welfare reform with Republicans.