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If horrible parents told the truth!

The Giant Noodle

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Im... Im starting to understand... now. :unsure13:

I was jealous of you. When you were born, your mother paid more attention to you than to me, so I started to see you as competition.

I was abused as a child, so I abused you. I needed to be the one in the position of power, at last. It felt like I was finally getting some justice.

My career was more important than you.

My love life was more important than you.

I liked your older brother more than I liked you.

You reminded me too much of your jerk father, so I punished you to get back at him.

Men are pigs. You were a boy trying to become a man. I tried to turn you into a girl to prevent you from becoming a pig.

If bad parents told the truth, this is what they'd say

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I know a woman who is brutally honest with her kids. They just think it is her weird sense of humor. Ironically, other than being really good with money, they are about as clueless a group of kids I have met.
 
I know a woman who is brutally honest with her kids. They just think it is her weird sense of humor. Ironically, other than being really good with money, they are about as clueless a group of kids I have met.

In what way Fisher?
 
In what way Fisher?

If you are asking how she was honest--no Santa; here is your money for Christmas/birthday/school, buy whatever you want with it now, later, I don't care. You are making me want to slap you so you better get the hell away from me. "No I hate that dress. It makes you look like a slut" kind of honesty. On the clueless side, they just are. I don't know how to explain it--they have this Amish in New York City for the first time way about them in everything they do. (They are not Amish) They just are not well grounded in real world mainstream life I guess.
 
I'm totally honest with my son.


Here are some of the totally honest things I say to him:

I love you.

I think you're totally awesome.

You are the most important person in my life.

You are well on your way to being a better man than I... and that makes me proud of you.

You are not always wrong and I am not always right.

You need to work hard in school if you want to do well in the real world.

I want three grandchildren, but it can wait a few more years. :)

If you're going to wear your hair that long, you need to shampoo it every day. :mrgreen:
 
I know a woman who is brutally honest with her kids. They just think it is her weird sense of humor. Ironically, other than being really good with money, they are about as clueless a group of kids I have met.

Soooo VERY honest. Alas it seems she needs to take care of the rest of it no?
 
I wonder how a child would feel if their parent said some of those things? Probably pretty bad.

Kids pick up on it and assume even worse than reality at times IMO. Parents drop more clues than they think they do about the way the really feel over time.
 
Some truths I've told my kids in explanation of real situations that happened:

"Sometimes adults behave just like kids - they're just bigger and have a car - maturity isn't an age thing." (when my older son found out his teacher molested a student at school and couldn't understand why)

"Adults **** up, too, but when we do we go to jail and not the principles office." (when my oldest son found out about his bio dad)

"Don't treat your grandparents like that - if I kick the bucket early they'll be all you got." (After my son made fun of his grandfather and pissed him off)

"It's important to learn how to tolerate your aunt ___, because if I kick the bucket early she'll be driving you to school every day." (Because Aunt N is a pain in the ****ing ass half the time)

"Don't fart in people's face if you don't want to get punched in the nuts." (because my son did it - seemed like common sense to me)

"Don't make up a game you won't want to finish when the other person plays it more rough than you." (my daughter when she wanted to play vampire on the playground and then began to really believe that nick was going to kill her family - she was terrified).
 
Both my kids are Delevopmentally disabled as am I. My son and I are Aspies and my daughter is ADHD. I know many DD parents who sugar coat the world thinking it will be better for thier kids. I disagree. Once I thought my kids could understand I explained to them why things did not go the way they wanted or why thinks work the way they work.

I did the normal Santa Claus, Tooth Fairy and Easter Bunny thing with them until they told me to stop.

But I felt that hiding the social trends in this country from them would create a crutch for them later on. I always explained things with a 'this is how it is" followed by this is what you can do about it.

both my children are old enough to know reality for themselves now and are both kind, and warm hearted kids who use their heads to think things out and accept that life is not there just for them.

Although my son will never be able to live in society like the rest of us, my daughter has grown up and will soon be on her own. I have no doubt she will succeed in whatever she does.

I was also always very honest about my emotions, flaws and buttons and the kids once they were old enough paid me the priviledge of doing the same for me.
 
Kids pick up on it and assume even worse than reality at times IMO. Parents drop more clues than they think they do about the way the really feel over time.

Kids do have an imagination, and kids are naturally competitive with each other, so they will tend to make clues out of nothingness. In every family, there is dysfunction at one level or another. This is normal. You just hope you can make sure your kids know they are loved, and matter more than anything else in the world. It's just one of those things that you do to the best of your ability, and hope everything turns out alright in the end, because there is no owner's manual, and no warranty.
 
Kids do have an imagination, and kids are naturally competitive with each other, so they will tend to make clues out of nothingness. In every family, there is dysfunction at one level or another. This is normal. You just hope you can make sure your kids know they are loved, and matter more than anything else in the world. It's just one of those things that you do to the best of your ability, and hope everything turns out alright in the end, because there is no owner's manual, and no warranty.

LOL. I prefer to keep them guessing so I can keep the upper hand on the manipulative demons :)
 
Kids pick up on it and assume even worse than reality at times IMO. Parents drop more clues than they think they do about the way the really feel over time.

Maybe so, but to say some of those things to a child would be emotional abuse and just plain cruel.
 
Maybe so, but to say some of those things to a child would be emotional abuse and just plain cruel.

Life is cruel. People need to learn to be thick skinned. Is just depends on the person I suppose and how old they are. I still hear grown people whining because their parents do not support them in everything they do. Makes no sense to me why so many people are so emotionally needy as adults.
 
Life is cruel. People need to learn to be thick skinned. Is just depends on the person I suppose and how old they are. I still hear grown people whining because their parents do not support them in everything they do. Makes no sense to me why so many people are so emotionally needy as adults.

That's true, but to tell your child that you resent him/her? A parent should never say anything like some of the things above to a child. That's just wrong IMO, and just makes a person even more messed up.
 
LOL. I prefer to keep them guessing so I can keep the upper hand on the manipulative demons :)

Make no mistake. I always had the upper hand, but I used it with love and kisses, and there was never any doubt about who was the captain of my ship. :)
 
Life is cruel. People need to learn to be thick skinned. Is just depends on the person I suppose and how old they are. I still hear grown people whining because their parents do not support them in everything they do. Makes no sense to me why so many people are so emotionally needy as adults.

Thick skins should never be made of parental actions and emotions. Kids do need to learn to have a thick skin, but they need to understand that their parents love them unconditionally. That doesn't mean that you tolerate everything they do, but it does mean that a kid doesn't think your love is conditional on them behaving like an obedience-trained dog. Love goes much deeper than societal behavior.
 
That's true, but to tell your child that you resent him/her? A parent should never say anything like some of the things above to a child. That's just wrong IMO, and just makes a person even more messed up.

Perhaps. I grew up in a house with 5 brothers and 2 sisters so I have a slightly different word view because you cannot have an emotional eggshell in that world. There was pretty much nothing my parents could have said that my siblings had not said repeatedly already a million times just to maintain their place in the pecking order.
 
Perhaps. I grew up in a house with 5 brothers and 2 sisters so I have a slightly different word view because you cannot have an emotional eggshell in that world. There was pretty much nothing my parents could have said that my siblings had not said repeatedly already a million times just to maintain their place in the pecking order.

Okay, but I think it would sting a lot more if your mother told you something like she never really wanted you and that you are a burden to her. Something like that can give a person a lifetime of emotional scars, thinking that your own mother doesn't want you.
 
Honest is one thing, but some "honesty" is borderline abuse. Physical threats of violence? Justifying your abuse by making excuses for your behavior? It's a little harsh. If you turned that behavior around and had the parent subjected to such "truth" from their parents, family, friends, bosses, etc...how well do you think that parent would handle it long term?


My mother was the "brutally honest" parent. She genuinely believe what she said was true, and she convinced me it was true, too. And as a result I spent 7 years (ages 7-14) thinking I was unwanted, unwelcome, fat, ugly, stupid, a slut (who'd never kissed a boy!!), etc...and also thinking my dad was a violent, abusive, evil man.

I also learned much more about my mother's private life than I ever should have known. I knew about her one night stand, her relationship with a married man, her STD test results, how often she was selling her body for drugs....all of it, in my face, 24/7.

The parent's challenge is to balance exposure to reality with compassion and care. You want to make your kids aware of how the world works, but you don't want to over expose them to abusive relationships, hurtful "truths", and age-inappropriate knowledge. Just the other night, the boyfriend and I had an emotional discussion, and I asked him, "How do you raise your kid to appreciate goodness and love while simultaneously preparing them for the people who will intentionally and joyfully hurt them?" The fact that it is sometimes the parent who ends up being that hurtful person just breaks my heart. There's a certain evil inside a parent who would find satisfaction in their child's pain or sadness.
 
Okay, but I think it would sting a lot more if your mother told you something like she never really wanted you and that you are a burden to her. Something like that can give a person a lifetime of emotional scars, thinking that your own mother doesn't want you.

I guess. But at the same time, I heard my mother say many times that all she wanted was to have 2 daughters so it doesn't take a leap of logic to know that I was the by-product of her effort to have the two daughters and I am pretty certain having that many kids was a huge burden on my parents. I don't take it personal and never have. I am just grateful my mom can remember my name about half the time since she calls me by one of my other brother's names about half the time and always has. I was indifferent toward my dad growing up because he was always either sleeping or working two jobs to keep us fed and when he was around, he was more like a drill instructor. He and I never had a "parent-child relationship" until after I grew up and moved out. Like I said, my experiences growing up were atypical, but I don't feel deeply emotionally scarred by it so I don't get people who are/were.
 
That's true, but to tell your child that you resent him/her? A parent should never say anything like some of the things above to a child. That's just wrong IMO, and just makes a person even more messed up.

Its really good for self esteem and self image too. What he does not understand is that for children to live in the "cruel world" they need to ammunition to do so. telling his kids things like that is not the way. They will loose before they get a chance to start.
 
I guess. But at the same time, I heard my mother say many times that all she wanted was to have 2 daughters so it doesn't take a leap of logic to know that I was the by-product of her effort to have the two daughters and I am pretty certain having that many kids was a huge burden on my parents. I don't take it personal and never have. I am just grateful my mom can remember my name about half the time since she calls me by one of my other brother's names about half the time and always has. I was indifferent toward my dad growing up because he was always either sleeping or working two jobs to keep us fed and when he was around, he was more like a drill instructor. He and I never had a "parent-child relationship" until after I grew up and moved out. Like I said, my experiences growing up were atypical, but I don't feel deeply emotionally scarred by it so I don't get people who are/were.

Well, my parents wanted a boy, but they had four girls. We all knew that they wanted a boy, but it made no difference to us. A parent should fall in love with their child, regardless of who or what he/she turns out to be. Even if you don't think you are emotionally scarred by your relationship with your parents, childhood experiences do leave scars in all of us. The best you can do (imo) is try to overcome whatever negative scars you may have gotten, and try to be a better parent that what you think you had. Unfortunately, what most people seem to do is repeat the mistakes that they believe they see in their parents, because to them, it's "normal".
 
Ugh - that reminds me of that mother who didn't bond with one of her kids and was horrid about it - all the time she told her daughter things like "I'm sorry I don't love you as much as I love your sister"

I think that did more harm than her difference in feelings between the two.
 
I guess. But at the same time, I heard my mother say many times that all she wanted was to have 2 daughters so it doesn't take a leap of logic to know that I was the by-product of her effort to have the two daughters and I am pretty certain having that many kids was a huge burden on my parents. I don't take it personal and never have. I am just grateful my mom can remember my name about half the time since she calls me by one of my other brother's names about half the time and always has. I was indifferent toward my dad growing up because he was always either sleeping or working two jobs to keep us fed and when he was around, he was more like a drill instructor. He and I never had a "parent-child relationship" until after I grew up and moved out. Like I said, my experiences growing up were atypical, but I don't feel deeply emotionally scarred by it so I don't get people who are/were.

I think that's kind of sad.
 
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