If David Duke were sued, should he only get a white judge?

[Howler63]

There just aren't that many displaced miners (honorable complaint) and stupid racist white people to make up for the Trump stupidity. At least I hope not.

I'm sure there's a few million Hillary supporters who hope the same thing.

Cross your fingers.

 

[mak2]

I am really screwed, I want them both to lose.

I'm sure there's a few million Hillary supporters who hope the same thing.

Cross your fingers.

 

[truthatallcost]

No, child, not the urban dictionary. Please read more closely.

I accept your concession of defeat.

If the KKK put out a press release on their website stating that the historical connotation of the KKK was just one big misunderstanding, would you expect me to buy that too?

 

[AlbqOwl]

If you choose to ignore the fact that a President of the SDLRLA was also a board member of the National La Raza group, then fine. Suit yourself. We are done here.

I have not been able to verify that, but I don't know that it isn't true either. I do know the president of the La Raza Lawyer's Group has denounced Donald Trump and called him a bigot, and according to The Daily Caller, as a member of the La Raza Lawyers group Judge Curiel was on a panel that awarded a scholarship to an illegal Hispanic immigrant. According to the Daily Caller, Curiel has also endorsed Hillary Clinton.

Trump has every reason in the world to ask this judge to recuse himself. It's too bad he didn't use the real ammo he had though and went the silly "Curiel is a Mexican" argument. Then again Trump does things like that to keep himself on the front pages so maybe it was deliberate.
Anti-Trump Judge is Hispanic Grand Dragon | EUTimes.net

 

[ALiberalModerate]

Thank you for that. Your post came across exactly that way to me.

The irony of someone claiming they have never heard Trump making a racist or bigoted statement in a thread about Trump making the following statement (among many others):

"The judge, who happens to be, we believe, Mexican..."

That statement in and of itself is a bigoted statement. He is calling a man that was born in America a "Mexican" simply due to the man being of Hispanic decent. The fact is its rare that a week goes by without Trump saying something that is racist, bigoted, or sexist about one group or another. He started his whole campaign by making a bigoted insinuation about illegal Hispanic immigrants by imply that most of them are rapists and drug dealers. He has tweeted incendiary lies about Blacks such as "81% of whites are killed by blacks" - the number is actually 15%.

You could literally fill up pages worth of bigoted and racist things that Trump has said before but I doubt you would recognize any of them as being so because he has an R after his name this election year and unless he lights a cross, in your book he is just being "un-PC".

 

[NO1]

Donald Trump claims that the fact that the judge in Trump University case is of Mexican descent, he is incapable of being fair to him as a judge. So, if David Duke were sued, should he only get a white judge?

If the judge made any claims against trump in the past I would understand it, but if not Trump disrespect the judge and the American legal system.

 

[Socrates1]

Donald Trump claims that the fact that the judge in Trump University case is of Mexican descent, he is incapable of being fair to him as a judge. So, if David Duke were sued, should he only get a white judge?

Do Blacks complain about White cops ?

 

[Tanngrisnir]

Again. You demanded we show a link between the two entities. I did so. End of story. We can truly be done now.

Obviously I was getting at a relevant link of substance; again, your flights of fancy isn't anything anyone rational is interested in.

 

[Howler63]

Obviously I was getting at a relevant link of substance; again, your flights of fancy isn't anything anyone rational is interested in.

It is a substantive link. You choose to ignore it. Good day.

 

[Tanngrisnir]

It is a substantive link. You choose to ignore it. Good day.

It is a desperate attempt to make a point that never stood up to scrutiny, and you choose to lie about it.

Eh. Not my problem.

 

[Howler63]

It is a desperate attempt to make a point that never stood up to scrutiny, and you choose to lie about it.

Eh. Not my problem.

I said good day sir.

 

[Tanngrisnir]

I said good day sir.

Good evening, Madame.

 

[AlbqOwl]

The irony of someone claiming they have never heard Trump making a racist or bigoted statement in a thread about Trump making the following statement (among many others):

"The judge, who happens to be, we believe, Mexican..."

That statement in and of itself is a bigoted statement. He is calling a man that was born in America a "Mexican" simply due to the man being of Hispanic decent. The fact is its rare that a week goes by without Trump saying something that is racist, bigoted, or sexist about one group or another. He started his whole campaign by making a bigoted insinuation about illegal Hispanic immigrants by imply that most of them are rapists and drug dealers. He has tweeted incendiary lies about Blacks such as "81% of whites are killed by blacks" - the number is actually 15%.

You could literally fill up pages worth of bigoted and racist things that Trump has said before but I doubt you would recognize any of them as being so because he has an R after his name this election year and unless he lights a cross, in your book he is just being "un-PC".

No it is not bigoted within the larger context of why the judge being Mexican was significant. Only those who judge people through the cruel (and dishonest) prism of political correctness and refuse to consider the setting, context, and emphasis would see that as a bigoted statement. He was not saying Mexicans could not be objective. He was saying that the fact this judge was Mexican could throw his objectivity into question as to how fair he could be with somebody like Donald Trump.

Trump I think possibly was just being quintessential Trump when he used 'the judge is a Mexican' ploy just to keep the media stirred up and on him. The fact that the judge is a prestigious member of the San Diego La Raza Lawyers association doing advocacy work for Hispanics, including illegal ones, and the president of that association has officially denounced Trump before this last bru ha ha, the fact that the association is pro illegal immigrant, the fact that it endorsed Barack Obama, and Judge Curiel himself is on record as supporting Hillary--all these are excellent reasons that this judge should recuse himself from presiding over a civil action involving Donald Trump.

 

[Redress]

He's planning on a massive white vote....remember those coal miners that Hillary just told to piss off? Them and guys like them.

That is pretty unlikely. Remember, most women don't like him, and they make up half the white vote. And a lot of white people of both genders are pretty turned off by his doing stupid **** like this.

 

[Cardinal]

ALMOST 1/3.

That means that over 70% votes against him.

See how that works?

It's going to be a lot more than 70% this time around.

Which is fine by me, of course.

 

[year2late]

If the judge made any claims against trump in the past I would understand it, but if not Trump disrespect the judge and the American legal system.

I was actually trying to figure this out. Has the judge spoken out against Trump in the past? How did he deserve the "hater" comment?

But the dude was born here (in Indiana no less) and has lived as a citizen for over 6 decades. At what point is he allowed to be called an American and not a Mexican?

Interesting quick read.

5 things to know about Judge Gonzalo Curiel - CNNPolitics.com

 

[polgara]

No it is not bigoted within the larger context of why the judge being Mexican was significant. Only those who judge people through the cruel (and dishonest) prism of political correctness and refuse to consider the setting, context, and emphasis would see that as a bigoted statement. He was not saying Mexicans could not be objective. He was saying that the fact this judge was Mexican could throw his objectivity into question as to how fair he could be with somebody like Donald Trump.

Trump I think possibly was just being quintessential Trump when he used 'the judge is a Mexican' ploy just to keep the media stirred up and on him. The fact that the judge is a prestigious member of the San Diego La Raza Lawyers association doing advocacy work for Hispanics, including illegal ones, and the president of that association has officially denounced Trump before this last bru ha ha, the fact that the association is pro illegal immigrant, the fact that it endorsed Barack Obama, and Judge Curiel himself is on record as supporting Hillary--all these are excellent reasons that this judge should recuse himself from presiding over a civil action involving Donald Trump.

Greetings, AlbqOwl. :2wave:

Excellent post! :thumbs: I did not know about the facts you posted regarding Judge Curiel until a few minutes ago, and realizing that you would not have posted them if they weren't true, I agree with those who believe he should recuse himself before this goes any further! The fact that he is on record supporting Hillary, who is Trump's rival for the highest job in this country, looks bad for him at the very least, and should be sufficient to lend credence to the objection Trump is making, which seems to be a valid one. Trump may be disliked by a lot of people, but so is Hillary for that matter, thus I would argue that fair is still fair when it comes to the law, and that applies to everyone, no matter who it is. :shrug:

 

[AlbqOwl]

Greetings, AlbqOwl. :2wave:

Excellent post! I did not know about the facts you posted regarding Judge Curiel until a few minutes ago, and realizing that you would not have posted them if they weren't true, I agree with those who believe he should recuse himself before this goes any further! The fact that he is on record supporting Hillary, who is Trump's rival, looks bad for him at the very least, and should be sufficient to lend credence to the objection Trump is making, which seems to be a valid one. Trump may be disliked by a lot of people, but so is Hillary for that matter, thus I would still argue that fair is still fair when it comes to the law, and that applies to everyone, no matter who it is. :shrug:

Thanks Polgara. I posted the information earlier in this thread with the sources and link. IF the Daily Caller and the U.E.News are correct--and they both appeared to be speaking from a position of authority--then it is true. I should have repeated the sources in the post you are referencing, but I think there is easily enough there that I have verified for myself to believe most if not all of it is true.

 

[Bodi]

The person that Duke should NOT GET is a white judge. White people are innately racist due to their white privilege

 

[year2late]

The person that Duke should NOT GET is a white judge. White people are innately racist due to their white privilege

:lamo

 

[Hatuey]

What are you talking about? Who is saying "it's alright to go after Mexicans"?

Lol, wow do you just misread and say what you think it meant? Weird. Can you find that in my post? Bolding it is fine.


Sent from a flower watered by the tears of Trump supporters and crazy newb liberals.

 

[Hatuey]

No it is not bigoted within the larger context of why the judge being Mexican was significant. Only those who judge people through the cruel (and dishonest) prism of political correctness and refuse to consider the setting, context, and emphasis would see that as a bigoted statement. He was not saying Mexicans could not be objective. He was saying that the fact this judge was Mexican could throw his objectivity into question as to how fair he could be with somebody like Donald Trump.

Trump I think possibly was just being quintessential Trump when he used 'the judge is a Mexican' ploy just to keep the media stirred up and on him. The fact that the judge is a prestigious member of the San Diego La Raza Lawyers association doing advocacy work for Hispanics, including illegal ones, and the president of that association has officially denounced Trump before this last bru ha ha, the fact that the association is pro illegal immigrant, the fact that it endorsed Barack Obama, and Judge Curiel himself is on record as supporting Hillary--all these are excellent reasons that this judge should recuse himself from presiding over a civil action involving Donald Trump.

The judge was born in America to legal immigrants. He is not a Mexican. This considerably changes your post.


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[year2late]

The judge was born in America to legal immigrants. He is not a Mexican. This considerably changes your post.


Sent from a flower watered by the tears of Trump supporters and crazy newb liberals.

This was my point from the beginning. After being born in the US to legal immigrants...as an American citizen living an admirable life - including protecting us (at his peril)from Mexican drug cartels.....at what point does calling this fine example of an American who achieved the American dream of his parents a "Mexican" (especially as a pejorative) make any kind of sense?

On top of that calling such an esteemed person a "hater" (especially without cause) is something an internet troll would do, not a POTUS.

Sent from the diet cherry coke encrusted keyboard of a middle aged woman.

 

[Hatuey]

Folks, watch for the replies we are getting here. On one hand, a poster that has lied at all costs - including but not restricted to... embarrassing himself - has suggested we have race courts. AlbqOwl, has repeated the erroneous claim that this judge is a Mexican; ignoring that the judge was born in the US to people who had every right to be here. We have a third poster who thinks judges should recuse themselves based on their ethnicity. This is something which has been brought down at every level of our courts. Can we please just take a moment to realize what all of these posts mean when put together? Lol, these guys really believe that they get to define when being Mexican means being part of a race(the Hispanic race) and when it doesn't. It is a race when Hispanic judges are involved in a case that has nothing to do with their heritage but affects the candidate they are rooting for. It stops being a race when police are purposely looking to stop Hispanics driving down a road. Lol, these guys are silly.


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[truthatallcost]

No, not that I'm aware of.



Yes.



No.

Well, apparently the SDLALA does support the National Council of La Raza, as a link to the NCLR exists on the SDLRLA's website.