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ICE raids across L.A. spark backlash; Trump officials vow to continue operations

MTAtech said:
There were no ICE vehicles burned in L.A. and there was no attempt in L.A. to overturn a fair election, as was the objective on Jan 6.
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Fascist propaganda is so unimaginative. As clever as bathroom humor. "You said poop! Ha ha ha."
 
MTAtech said:
There were no ICE vehicles burned in L.A.
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You think because you lied - reality changed to support your lie and party goals.

I understand, Stalinists are convinced that lying is a superpower that overrules reality.

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MTAtech said:
and there was no attempt in L.A. to overturn a fair election, as was the objective on Jan 6.
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I wonder if the comrades on this board, or their CCP compatriots on BlueSky are aware that 2024 was the first election of a Republican since Reagan where democrats didn't try to stop the certification of the EC?
 
Napoleon said:
Where are you? You’re blowing an awful lot of smoke on the internet.
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The tactic of the far left appears to be to just tell the most outrageous lies possible in hopes people will believe them out of disbelief that anyone could be audacious enough to tell such lies.

This is a technique democrats adopted from Adolf Hitler - like so many other tactics they use.
 
Chomsky said:
The last unrest we had was under Trump, too. The George Floyd Riots.

Trump inflames, rather than brings peace.
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So basically, Stalinist democrats become violent when they aren't in power.

I predicted the the democrats would again turn to violence - i just expected it sooner. But there was never a question that democrats would become violent in an attempt to seize power.
 
anatta said:
the article I saw showed (below) direct grants for that money to CHIRLA it was less then a $million total.. Enough to fund those classes
Further down it says:

www.dailymail.co.uk

The eye-popping amount of taxpayer dollars supporting LA ICE riots

The U.S Department of Homeland Security has reportedly terminated the flow of taxpayer dollars to one of the groups at the center of the fiery riots that took place in Los Angeles over the weekend.
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Out of the $44 million noted as received by CHIRLA in the group's 2023 IRS Form 990, over $33 million total was received from government grants
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with no attrition to that "government grant".. So I don t know exactly how that grant money is being funneled to CHIRLA - except it's a lot
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Taxpayers forced to fund the colonization of their home by foreign powers. And of course, democrats are behind it all.
 
trixare4kids said:
The real point is for the anti-Trump left to scapegoat and blame Trump for riots.
That dog don't hunt.
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These responses only occur under Trump.

How is it Clinton, Obama, and Biden, deported far more than Trump, without a peep from the citizenry? There's reason. Trump can't govern. He dictates. And gets the expected results.

Due to his lack of governing and negotiating skill, Trump has no choice but to dictate by force to achieve his goals. And you know what? That won't work with the American People. Not, at all.
 
Uncensored2008 said:
You think because you lied - reality changed to support your lie and party goals.

I understand, Stalinists are convinced that lying is a superpower that overrules reality.

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I wonder if the comrades on this board, or their CCP compatriots on BlueSky are aware that 2024 was the first election of a Republican since Reagan where democrats didn't try to stop the certification of the EC?
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So you think doubling down on your lie makes it more credible? No, it makes it another lie.
 
Uncensored2008 said:
So basically, Stalinist democrats become violent when they aren't in power.

I predicted the the democrats would again turn to violence - i just expected it sooner. But there was never a question that democrats would become violent in an attempt to seize power.
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The key element is Trump. Both in L.A., and in the assault in the Nation's Capitol.
 
eohrnberger said:
Where they got the transcript is no response to the question of whether the testimony was permitted by the committee, or not.
Per your posting, it appears to have been suppressed, and eventually released by DHS, after the committee had disbanded, after the committee could be held accountable.
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You keep on insinuating that it was the committee that suppressed evidence, and not DHS just doing its job. The SS clearly did not want to cooperate, as they had "mistakenly" wiped their text logs for that day. For a group that was omnipresent during the day, we got precious little useful information from them.

eohrnberger said:
There's any number of prognostications as to what those texts contain. What I'm surprised about is the mobile vendor's lame excuse 'data was corrupted' and 'isn't retrievable', and am surprised that this is simply accepted and not challenged any further.
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I don't know what the relationship between the SS and the cellular company is, but my suspicion is that it's not the vendor's fault, it's the Secret Service's fault.

eohrnberger said:
Of course, then we also have Pelosi herself on video.

I think this might be the one time that Pelosi is candid, clear, and honest, because she is usually at the podium telling some whoppers.
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This belongs in the same category with "sorry for your loss." Pelosi did not have the authority to call the Guard. All she could do was to ask somebody who did have the authority, and she did, repeatedly, without delay. All she can do is request this or that, she can't demand it. She was just blaming herself for not seeing into the future, as some people are wont to do. Had she known that trump was going to whip up a crowd and send them into the Capitol behind a bunch of Proud Boys, maybe she would have requested more cops than normal. But it's completely disingenuous to continue to blame Pelosi for this. After four years, if you don't know by now that she wasn't someone with the authority to summon the NG, then you are willfully ignoring the facts.

eohrnberger said:
Isn't this supposition?
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No, this has been established.

eohrnberger said:
Yeah, you don't like that testimony upsetting the carefully scripted Committee's presentation, so no wonder you hate it.
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I don't know if you can really call it "testimony" if Ornato refused to go under oath. Call it a statement.

eohrnberger said:
What I'm seeing is hyper-partisan political blinders and willingly parroting the Dem issued talking points.
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In this case, there is little doubt as to what happened. A mob of people, spearheaded by Proud Boys and other groups, stormed the Capitol. Red hats and trump banners were everywhere. Bear spray was used against the cops. Shit was smeared on the walls of the Capitol. This went on for hours, then stopped Bad things happened. Can you at least admit that much?

Agreeing on a set of facts should not be a partisan thing. I would think that anybody would want to understand exactly how it all unfolded. I would also think that anybody would look at the riot and say, "that's completely wrong," but that's not the case. We still have people making excuses for the riot. People looking hard for any tiny nugget they can grasp onto so they don't have to admit to the totality of the bad stuff that happened.

That's why I keep asking for an example of some evidence - even imaginary evidence, completely hypothetical - that would change one's perception of the riot from bad to good, or at least bad to understandable. Because if that kind of evidence doesn't exist, even hypothetically, then why are you wasting your time looking for these tiny nuggets of perceived inconsistency and pointing them out?

eohrnberger said:
At least I don't have that problem.
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You have the same problem, but right-wing.
 
Ikari said:
You still ain't got proof anyone is being paid.
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You were given the proof and lied about it. When called out, you increased your volume and demanded that your lie overrules reality.

Ikari said:
Don't be mad at me because you are easily taken by false propaganda and then come running here to spout your lies.

Let's see actual proof of your claims.
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I've posted proof, @eohrnberger has posted proof, @anatta has posted the proof.

You seem to think if you lie more aggressively you can subdue reality and make it conform to party objectives.
 
W_Heisenberg said:
This is bullshit. Oklahoma City Bombing first thing that comes to mind.

Right winger killed 168 people.

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Oklahoma City bombing - Wikipedia

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McVeigh was in bed with radical Islam, wasn't he? An Antisemite dedicated to the destruction of Israel, just like the democrats are now. Claimed that "Zionests" ruled everything - just as Hamas supporting democrats today do,

McVeigh was no "right winger" and would be right at home with democrats on any college campus.

Try again with your demagoguery.
 
Chomsky said:
These responses only occur under Trump.
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So what? He wasn't responsible for the summer of love riots. Put the blame on where it belongs. On those agitators, outside and local, who assembled, and then, chose to break the law.
Chomsky said:
How is it Clinton, Obama, and Biden, deported far more than Trump, without a peep from the citizenry? There's reason. Trump can't govern. He dictates. And gets the expected results.
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Everybody drink!
Chomsky said:
Due to his lack of governing and negotiating skill, Trump has no choice but to dictate by force to achieve his goals. And you know what? That won't work with the American People. Not, at all.
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You're scapegoating for your own political agenda and arguing by using the emotional sleeve. You don't speak for the American People.
The American People spoke on November 5, 2024. Time for you to deal with it, don't you think?
 
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Uncensored2008 said:
The tactic of the far left appears to be to just tell the most outrageous lies possible
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Uncensored2008 said:
in hopes people will believe them out of disbelief that anyone could be audacious enough to tell such lies.

This is a technique democrats adopted from Adolf Hitler - like so many other tactics they use.
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You stated the bolded above, and that below?


Uncensored2008 said:
And the 1500 political prisoners they held
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NWRatCon said:
So you think doubling down on your lie makes it more credible? No, it makes it another lie.
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So you blatantly lied about ICE vehicles, no double down.

Maybe you can post some CCP crap from BlueSky - seems to be the M.O. of the operatives here on DP.
 
Chomsky said:
The key element is Trump. Both in L.A., and in the assault in the Nation's Capitol.
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The key element is democrats who seek to take power by force.

I think what democrats are doing is known as "sedition."
 
Emlee said:
Cite the videos of police opening the doors so some could enter.
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It exists, but some here try to use that as a representation of the riot being some minor event despite the other places where protestors attacked police and forced their way in. It's the most ridiculous point about the entire event. It also ignores some of the reasons why, since in some cases the officers were completely overwhelmed and had no choice because they couldn't defend their positions.
 
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