ICE raids across L.A. spark backlash; Trump officials vow to continue operations

[JohnfrmClevelan]

Let's see a link?

Timothy McVeigh - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Not that CNN is credible, but you didn't even try to support your claim.

Look, we have Wikipedia. I'm not about to do a deep dive on Timothy McVeigh while you spew the most ridiculous claims without doing any work yourself. If you want to make believe that everybody in the world is lying to you, that's your neurosis and your problem.

The KKK was/is the terrorist wing of the democrat party - recently updated to BLM. (same organization, but with a different scapegoat.)

Go see a doctor.

 

[devildavid]

Elections have consequences. This president in his short time in office has fulfilled his promises to The People; the electorate, the voters who gave him another term in office.

Since January 20, 2025, under the Trump administration, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) has arrested significant numbers of undocumented immigrants with criminal records, including violent criminals. Based on available data:

• First 100 Days (January 20 to April 29, 2025): ICE arrested 66,463 undocumented immigrants, with three in four (approximately 49,847) being criminal aliens. Their records included convictions or charges for:
  • 498 murders
  • 9,639 assaults
  • 1,329 sex offenses
  • 1,479 weapon offenses
  • 6,398 DWIs or DUIs
• Los Angeles Operation (June 2025): ICE arrested at least 45 undocumented immigrants in Los Angeles with violent criminal convictions, including:
  • Cuong Chanh Phan, convicted of second-degree murder
  • Rolando Veneracion-Enriquez, convicted of sexual penetration with a foreign object and assault with intent to commit rape
  • Others with convictions for sexual battery, assault with a deadly weapon, and robbery
  • Additional arrests on June 8 included individuals with convictions for child molestation, vehicular manslaughter, and domestic violence
• Massachusetts Operation (May 2025): ICE and federal partners arrested 1,461 undocumented immigrants, with 790 having significant criminal records, including rape, child trafficking, and gang activity. Specific violent crimes included:
  • A habitual drunk driver who kidnapped a child
  • Individuals convicted of murder, sex offenses, and drug trafficking
• Nationwide Operations (Various Dates):
  • On January 23, 2025, ICE arrested 171 noncitizens with pending charges or convictions for murder, homicide, or assault against children
    
    
  • In a single day (January 26, 2025), ICE arrested 1,179 individuals, with 613 (52%) considered "criminal arrests," including eight "worst criminals" like gang members
    
    
  • By May 15, 2025, ICE arrested individuals in sanctuary cities like Los Angeles, Philadelphia, and Boston with convictions for aggravated sexual assault, robbery, and assault with a deadly weapon
    
    
  • In Hawaii, arrests included individuals convicted of felony assault, kidnapping, and terroristic threatening

ICE Captures Worst of the Worst Illegal Alien Criminals in Los Angeles Including Murderers, Sex Offenders, and Other Violent Criminals | Homeland Security

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) published additional information about some of the worst of the worst criminal illegal aliens arrested during Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s (ICE) Los Angeles operation.

www.dhs.gov

ICE Continues to Arrest Vicious Illegal Alien Criminals as Rioters Continue to Disrupt Law Enforcement | Homeland Security

DHS released more information about some of the worst of the worst criminal illegal aliens arrested during the ongoing Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) operation in Los Angeles.

www.dhs.gov

ICE Arrests Criminal Illegal Aliens Including Rapists, Kidnappers, and Gang Members in Sanctuary Cities | Homeland Security

DHS announced Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) has successfully detained dangerous criminal illegal aliens in Sanctuary jurisdictions across the country.

www.dhs.gov

Elections don’t change the powers vested in the presidency. The percentage of those you cite as bad criminals is small in comparison to the total of those rounded up. I guess they accidentally found some criminals mixed in, just as you would if you suddenly rounded up large numbers of American citizens.

 

[eohrnberger]

You keep on insinuating that it was the committee that suppressed evidence, and not DHS just doing its job.

The SS clearly did not want to cooperate, as they had "mistakenly" wiped their text logs for that day.

'"mistakenly" wiped their text logs for that day. ' is an assertion without evidence, as far as I can see.
From what I recall, there was program underway to replace the existing fleet of mobile devices with new ones, at least this is what was reported.
It is rather suspicious the timing of this replacement program, as well as the mobile vendor claiming that it was only those text messages who's data was corrupted.
Its all rather stinky.

For a group that was omnipresent during the day, we got precious little useful information from them.



I don't know what the relationship between the SS and the cellular company is, but my suspicion is that it's not the vendor's fault, it's the Secret Service's fault.

Or, two thing can be right at the same time, and both were with a wink wink, nod nod. But no one's interested enough to push for an investigation further.
Recall, this would be the same SS which over saw the Bulter PA incident.

This belongs in the same category with "sorry for your loss." Pelosi did not have the authority to call the Guard.

Per the video, she clearly thinks she did. From what I recall as Speaker of the House, security of the capital grounds did fall within her office, if not wholly, at least partially.

All she could do was to ask somebody who did have the authority,

and she did, repeatedly, without delay.

I'm skeptical that this is what actually happened.

All she can do is request this or that, she can't demand it. She was just blaming herself for not seeing into the future, as some people are wont to do.

Had she known that trump was going to whip up a crowd and send them into the Capitol behind a bunch of Proud Boys,

This the left's push narrative, and, as usually the case, it is unsubstantiated.

maybe she would have requested more cops than normal. But it's completely disingenuous to continue to blame Pelosi for this. After four years, if you don't know by now that she wasn't someone with the authority to summon the NG, then you are willfully ignoring the facts.

I'm only going by what Pelosi was captured saying in that video.

No, this has been established.

I don't know if you can really call it "testimony" if Ornato refused to go under oath. Call it a statement.

We have a transcript of his testimony.
That doesn't jive with his refusing to go under oath.
Is it that this transcript was a transcript of his interview and was mistaken called 'testimony' or something?

 

[eohrnberger]

In this case, there is little doubt as to what happened. A mob of people, spearheaded by Proud Boys and other groups, stormed the Capitol. Red hats and trump banners were everywhere. Bear spray was used against the cops. Shit was smeared on the walls of the Capitol. This went on for hours, then stopped Bad things happened. Can you at least admit that much?

I've already posted a number of times that there was a legal, legitimate and fully permitted political protest / demonstration at the Capitol that day, and, unfortunately, a riot broke out.
Yes, the riot did include what you describe, although your flourishing adjectives such as 'spearheaded' are questionable as well as your inclusion and emphasis of 'Red hats and trump banners', after all, it was a legal, legitimate and fully permitted political protest / demonstration, so you'd expect them to be there.

Agreeing on a set of facts should not be a partisan thing. I would think that anybody would want to understand exactly how it all unfolded. I would also think that anybody would look at the riot and say, "that's completely wrong," but that's not the case. We still have people making excuses for the riot. People looking hard for any tiny nugget they can grasp onto so they don't have to admit to the totality of the bad stuff that happened.

You seem to be describing someone else. I'm only resisting and pushing back against the gross exaggeration, hyperbole, and over inflation of the events of the day.

As an example, some have claimed that Jan 6th was as bad as, or worse, than Perl Harbor. This is clearly not the case, given the established history of attacks on the Capital as well as the number of Americans dead. It is such gross exaggeration, hyperbole, and over inflation gross exaggeration, hyperbole, and over inflation I push back on and call out, because I know its all motivated by cynical politics and playing / manipulating the court of public opinion strictly for political purposes.

That's why I keep asking for an example of some evidence - even imaginary evidence, completely hypothetical - that would change one's perception of the riot from bad to good, or at least bad to understandable. Because if that kind of evidence doesn't exist, even hypothetically, then why are you wasting your time looking for these tiny nuggets of perceived inconsistency and pointing them out?

I've described my position on this directly above.

You have the same problem, but right-wing.

Meh. I'm not inclined to gross exaggeration, hyperbole, and over inflation of political events. Others can't seem to help themselves to do anything but.

 

[devildavid]

My point, which should easily be clear, is the electorate voting for Trump in '24 did not vote for what he's doing in '25. Specifically, the techniques he's using and in his going after non-criminals. This has been borne-out by recent polling in this and other threads.

You are talking to Trump cultists who will never see anything wrong or hypocritical in what Trump says vs. what he does. Trump speak changes when it enters their brains so they all know what he really meant.

 

[Uncensored2008]

So, you knowingly employed illegal aliens? According to some on the left here, you as the employer is the one we should be arresting.

Remember, democrats have always been the party of slavery. Illegal aliens are their new slaves. And just like last time, democrats are willing to fight a civil war to keep their slaves.

 

[JMB1911A1]

Elections don’t change the powers vested in the presidency. The percentage of those you cite as bad criminals is small in comparison to the total of those rounded up. I guess they accidentally found some criminals mixed in, just as you would if you suddenly rounded up large numbers of American citizens.

75% is not small.

 

[eohrnberger]

If Trump would resign, and somehow make Kam-Kam president, the violence would stop.

democrats are only violent because Trump won the election, and democrats don't like that.

Seems to me that the left's behavior is the ultimate in election denial, both in word and in deed, which the left accuses everyone else of.

 

[SCrider]

Obviously Bass can't be informed in advance, as she is a criminal and would instantly tip off the other criminals.

No, trump is the only actual criminal in this story.

 

[trixare4kids]

And the National Socialist democrats would NEVER stoop to blocking EC Certification....



Okay, so maybe democrats ALWAYS try and block certification when a Republican is elected.

But the GLORIOUS PARTY would never threaten to kill their political enemy using an effigy..

Well, what can you say? Other than: there is no hypocrisy like demopocrisy....

You got that right. They're trying to dictate what laws ICE should enforce and not enforce. Like they have all day long, and are at the beck and call of these partisan bobble-headed hypocrites.

 

[anatta]

My point, which should easily be clear, is the electorate voting for Trump in '24 did not vote for what he's doing in '25. Specifically, the techniques he's using and in his going after non-criminals. This has been borne-out by recent polling in this and other threads.

Only a Quinnioiac poll shows unpopular,, I posted a CBS poll In a CBS News/YouGov poll conducted June 4-6, 54% of Americans said they approved of Trump's deporation policy, and 50% approved of how he's handling immigration.
~~~

Anyways polling doesn't determine legitimacy of the issues. Newsome tried to blame him for virtually everything and it was a whine fest

 

[Uncensored2008]

Timothy McVeigh - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Nope, that doesn't support your claim that "CNN Reported McVeigh was a registered Republican."

Can I assume you just made that up?

Look, we have Wikipedia. I'm not about to do a deep dive on Timothy McVeigh while you spew the most ridiculous claims without doing any work yourself. If you want to make believe that everybody in the world is lying to you, that's your neurosis and your problem.

So you lied and got busted.

McViegh belonged to Elohim City, a radical anarchist group that was deeply antisemitic and tied to Abu Sayyaf - dedicated to the destruction of Israel, just as the democrat party today is.

Go see a doctor.

I am a doctor. And BLM is just the Klan rebranded to hate whites. Still the terrorist wing of the democrat party.

 

[Parker_Chess]

You know what? The anti-Trumps are their own worst enemy. I am sick of their silly whining.
The election is over. Whining because their girl didn't win is not productive. The people voted for the present administration’s aggressive immigration policies and deployment of federal forces to get it done.
Trump is not responsible for how these violent rioters, and paid and unpaid agitators, (some of the anti-Trumps have defended), is not acceptable. It's UNAMERICAN.

CA. for the most part, business owners, people who live with this unlawful crap by Newsom and the rest of commies, is happy a strong response is happening in their state. People from the outside who don't live here, can go jump in the lake if they believe assaulting and doxxing LE is the way to go.

Wrong. For starters just because the election is won by Trump doesn't give him the authority to push his agenda by whatever illegal measures he wants. Democrat or Republican we live in a Constitutional Republic with rules and laws. Sending the National Guard into the State of California usurping the Governor's authority is not in the lines of legality.

The LA police department has even come out and said that the situation was "nowhere near" the need for calling the National Guard. Just like any other protest, you have violent protestors and ones acting peacefully. The violent ones should be arrested meanwhile the peaceful protestors should have their rights retained. You have what? Four to five blocks of LA where these protests are going on? The idea that this calls for the National Guard and Marines is an absurdity. Let the Governor/LA Police Department do their jobs.

The truth is this isn't even about immigration and law enforcement. This is about power. And we're on a direct path to a fascist police state here in this country. And it starts with people falsely falling for propaganda and lies.

 

[JohnfrmClevelan]

I've already posted a number of times that there was a legal, legitimate and fully permitted political protest / demonstration at the Capitol that day, and, unfortunately, a riot broke out.
Yes, the riot did include what you describe, although your flourishing adjectives such as 'spearheaded' are questionable as well as your inclusion and emphasis of 'Red hats and trump banners', after all, it was a legal, legitimate and fully permitted political protest / demonstration, so you'd expect them to be there.

The red hats and trump banners just make clear what side the crowd was on. And yes, peaceful protests are legal.

What you keep on omitting, though, are the things that don't fit in with your "peaceful protest" narrative. People brought bear spray and sharpened flagpoles. Proud Boys and Oath Keepers were there in force. How much more do you need?

You seem to be describing someone else. I'm only resisting and pushing back against the gross exaggeration, hyperbole, and over inflation of the events of the day.

You are making a big deal about cops opening a door. We have all seen the videos of the mob crushing cops in the doorways. What possible significance should we give to cops giving up the fight after they were overwhelmed and opening up the doors?

Meh. I'm not inclined to gross exaggeration, hyperbole, and over inflation of political events. Others can't seem to help themselves to do anything but.

Making far too little out of something important is basically the same thing.

 

[anatta]

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2025/06/09/brit_hume_on_la_riots_what_americans_are_watching_is_to_the_detriment_of_democrats_its_politically_unsustainable.html

 

[eohrnberger]

When is the last time you saw a post from someone whining about Kamala?

I have a house is Southern California. I had three crews of workers there this past weekend. All Mexican. All polite, hardworking and punctual. Their boss said white guys won't even apply for the job. That fact that those guys have to live in fear because of Trump's nonsense is infuriating. **** Trump and his enablers.

I'd only observe that if those folks are here legally and haven't committed any crimes, then they really don't have all that much to worry them, at least not from ICE and not deportation.

 

[Uncensored2008]

No, trump is the only actual criminal in this story.

Right, he entered into an NDA, and that is the most heinous crime in the history of history - Sieg Heil and Uber Alles democrat.

 

[trixare4kids]

Remember, democrats have always been the party of slavery. Illegal aliens are their new slaves. And just like last time, democrats are willing to fight a civil war to keep their slaves.

They only keep them around as pawns because they're numbers, to be counted in the US census, so they can get more representation.

 

[SCrider]

Right, he entered into an NDA, and that is the most heinous crime in the history of history - Sieg Heil and Uber Alles democrat.

Guilty on 34 counts what has Bass done? sexual assaulter as well.
Guess you don't don;t give a shit about law and order.

 

[eohrnberger]

The red hats and trump banners just make clear what side the crowd was on. And yes, peaceful protests are legal.

OK.

What you keep on omitting, though, are the things that don't fit in with your "peaceful protest" narrative. People brought bear spray and sharpened flagpoles. Proud Boys and Oath Keepers were there in force. How much more do you need?

More than that to hold the position that all the political demonstrators / protestors should be thrown in jail as if they had done what the worst of the rioters had done - the simple truth is that they didn't do those things, only a very few did.

You are making a big deal about cops opening a door. We have all seen the videos of the mob crushing cops in the doorways. What possible significance should we give to cops giving up the fight after they were overwhelmed and opening up the doors?

Again, the point being what I've describing directly above.

Making far too little out of something important is basically the same thing.

Which part of "legal, legitimate and fully permitted political protest / demonstration at the Capitol that day, and, unfortunately, a riot broke out." is 'Making far too little out of something'?
I see it as a clear and succinct one line summary of the events of that day.

 

[JohnfrmClevelan]

Nope, that doesn't support your claim that "CNN Reported McVeigh was a registered Republican."

Can I assume you just made that up?

It's in the Wiki article, genius.

So you lied and got busted.

Hardly. You are possibly the biggest bullshitter on this thread, and the one deepest into the trump cult. Nobody believes a word you say.

McViegh belonged to Elohim City, a radical anarchist group that was deeply antisemitic and tied to Abu Sayyaf - dedicated to the destruction of Israel, just as the democrat party today is.

Elohim City is clearly a righty group. Check your tinfoil hat for holes.

Elohim City, Oklahoma - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I am a doctor.

Then have one of your psychiatrist buddies check you out, because you appear to have lost most of your marbles.

 

[lynnwinslow]

I'd only observe that if those folks are here legally and haven't committed any crimes, then they really don't have all that much to worry them, at least not from ICE and not deportation.

That's not what the Trump administration is saying. See post 2372. I don't believe those numbers but it looks to me like the Trump administration is saying that people who haven't committed crimes (except for being undocumented) have been deported as well.

 

[JohnfrmClevelan]

Which part of "legal, legitimate and fully permitted political protest / demonstration at the Capitol that day, and, unfortunately, a riot broke out." is 'Making far too little out of something'?
I see it as a clear and succinct one line summary of the events of that day.

I see it as running away from the obvious salient points of the day. Your take is a thin coat of paint on a very dirty house. There was planning, there were weapons, there was a clear attempt to stop the electoral count. Your take ignores all of that.

That's why we have investigations.

 

[Ikari]

You were given the proof and lied about it. When called out, you increased your volume and demanded that your lie overrules reality.



I've posted proof, @eohrnberger has posted proof, @anatta has posted the proof.

You seem to think if you lie more aggressively you can subdue reality and make it conform to party objectives.

Randos on X aren't proof. You need documentation, not random people saying shit on social media.

 

[JMB1911A1]

They only keep them around as pawns because they're numbers, to be counted in the US census, so they can get more representation.

Absolutely. CA is on track to lose 4 House seats if illegals aren’t counted.