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Bullshit.
No I am sure he believes what he is saying.
Bullshit.
No, I mean every country has laws that must be followed. Now I admit that the law isn’t always evenly applied. But as much as possible it should be.Why? Our President doesn't believe in that. The Supreme Court majority also does not believe that.
You mean every country has laws that have to be obeyed by the poor and powerless, which the wealthy and powerful can ignore at their pleasure.
The immigration laws were MUCH different in the 1800’s.Are the Irish protesting because they don't like federal immigration laws?
Many aren't cutting in line, they're being pulled through it by the opportunities for work that most Americans turn their nose up at. Blaming them is not the solution. Reforming our immigration laws to create those positions legally through work visas or other work contracts would be far more beneficial. It has been attempted many times in the past and shut down because cheap labor without the red tape is easier than less cheap labor that protects workers. We have a broken system where legal paths to work exist but are insufficient.Well of course! Our immigration laws have to be changed. And I agree that these people are an important part of our labor force-an integral part.
I can’t get past the word “illegal”. You don’t get to cut in line ahead of those who went through the process correctly. If you do you should be deported.
Or trump to disband the local governmentDon't be surprised if this declared an 'emergency' and is used as a pretext for federal control and use of the military (national guard) on U.S. soil against a local population and local authorities.
Millions of these people also are IN the immigration system and working their way through it in one form or another.Well of course! Our immigration laws have to be changed. And I agree that these people are an important part of our labor force-an integral part.
I can’t get past the word “illegal”. You don’t get to cut in line ahead of those who went through the process correctly. If you do you should be deported.
Without due process, how do you know that the person is in fact an illegal?Why should we give due process to people that are in our country illegally? The don't deserve due process.
Well, okay. Have fun not eating and stuff.The word is accurate. When you sneak across the border you’re a criminal unless you’re looking for asylum in which case you entered legally. I’m referring to the criminals who sneak in looking for work. While I sympathize with their plight they are here illegally and should face the penalty for it. I’m not going to look the other way and tolerate one form of criminal activity while enforcing another.
You didnt come up with this. This is a talking point on the rightI hope it does. They need to put an end to this insurection asap.
I'm sure he does. Screw the Declaration and the Constitution, he can tell us all that some people have no rights at all. Not God-given, not inalienable, none at all.No I am sure he believes what he is saying.
YupMillions of these people also are IN the immigration system and working their way through it in one form or another.
ICE is now literally grabbing people as they are heading to court and following the process - in order to fulfill their quotas. And then also grabbing their kids…well, because they are there so why not.
They raided a restaurant here in NJ and grabbed a couple that OWN THE RESTAURANT and have been working through the legal process for years a couple months back.
This Administration is a trainwreck with every aspect of how they’re doing this. Unprofessional, haphazard, poorly executed - all designed to entice reactions and be a “show”
It’s disgusting but - as we can see from how MAGAs are responding - the base idiots gobble up the show.
They’re here illegallyWithout due process, how do you know that the person is in fact an illegal?
That's leaving aside your obvious hatred for the constitution and the republic itself.
Well, okay. Have fun not eating and stuff.
Legal work visas exist. The program needs to be expanded and improved.Many aren't cutting in line, they're being pulled through it by the opportunities for work that most Americans turn their nose up at. Blaming them is not the solution. Reforming our immigration laws to create those positions legally through work visas or other work contracts would be far more beneficial. It has been attempted many times in the past and shut down because cheap labor without the red tape is easier than less cheap labor that protects workers. We have a broken system where legal paths to work exist but are insufficient.
2025 really is showing the disgusting side of some people in this country pulling them fully out into the sunshine to be seen, isn’t it?The scenes we've been seeing coming out of the US lately give some sorts of people a nearly sexual satisfaction. It's alarming for anyone hoping that Magaism will end with Trump
It’s disgusting but - as we can see from how MAGAs are responding - the base idiots gobble up the show.
We'd need some transition program in between. Our economy cannot sustain removing people who provide important labor in industries that depend on immigrant workers, such as agriculture, construction, hospitality, and elder care. Sudden mass removal would create severe economic disruptions, labor shortages, and ripple effects across multiple sectors.Legal work visas exist. The program needs to be expanded and improved.
And until it is those here illegally, if caught, should be prepared to face the music
Being undocumented is, by itself, a misdemeanor in many cases.Legal work visas exist. The program needs to be expanded and improved.
And until it is those here illegally, if caught, should be prepared to face the music
I don’t disagree. The obvious problem is that Congress never ever addresses important issues like immigration. They are too concerned with holding on to power.We'd need some transition program in between. Our economy cannot sustain removing people who provide important labor in industries that depend on immigrant workers, such as agriculture, construction, hospitality, and elder care. Sudden mass removal would create severe economic disruptions, labor shortages, and ripple effects across multiple sectors.
Instead of relying on enforcement alone, a phased transition program to expand temporary work visas, legal pathways, and employer partnerships would prevent instability while addressing legal concerns. A structured reform is necessary to bridge the gap.
Agreed. I think any transitionary program should try to help out immigrants who are already well adjusted to life here and contributing already. I don't agree with @Ethel2 that those here illegally cut in line for many of those jobs. In many cases, they were recruited by companies looking for cheap labor.Being undocumented is, by itself, a misdemeanor in many cases.
People can go in and out of legal status and have done nothing more than miss an appointment or piece of mail or fill out a form incorrectly for it to happen.
Our immigration system is ridiculously complex, cumbersome and frankly…expensive.
It’s nearly impossible to truly navigate well without an attorney. And immigration attorneys - good ones - can be quite expensive.
(There are also many predatory ones that try to capitalize on immigrants in desperate situations)
I get all that. And I have nothing but respect for the workers busting their asses here.Being undocumented is, by itself, a misdemeanor in many cases.
People can go in and out of legal status and have done nothing more than miss an appointment or piece of mail or fill out a form incorrectly for it to happen.
Our immigration system is ridiculously complex, cumbersome and frankly…expensive. And that doesn’t even get into how some visa classifications are also completely skewed against the individuals that find themselves almost trapped in indentured servitude type of status.
It’s nearly impossible to truly navigate well without an attorney. And immigration attorneys - good ones - can be quite expensive.
(There are also many predatory ones that try to capitalize on immigrants in desperate situations)
Actually they do have rights. Which tells me you arent an American posting hereIllegal immigrants do not have rights. The majority of this country voted for mass deportations. I don't remember you commies getting your panties in a twist when Deporter and Chief Obama deported 5 million illegal aliens.
Yes.You're welcome, and probably encouraged, to leave if you can't handle DHS ICE officers working at obeying federal immigration law.
A lot of law enforcement and courts do just that with American criminals who committed non-violent crimes. Why not reward people who are working hard, have built families here, and who already know how to do the work? Bringing in new workers, even if we could do so immediately, would still disrupt many of those industries because they'd be slower and less experienced.I get all that. And I have nothing but respect for the workers busting their asses here.
But illegal is illegal. You can’t pick and choose which laws to enforce and which ones to ignore.
Well then flush our economy right down the toilet.I get all that. And I have nothing but respect for the workers busting their asses here.
But illegal is illegal. You can’t pick and choose which laws to enforce and which ones to ignore.
How irrelevantThat is a myth. If you break into my home here in Texas I have a right to use deadly force. You lose your right to exist.