ICE fascist scumbags at it again.

[Lovebug]

A lot of American military people, living abroad so long, end up marrying abroad, and if all their spouses are really at risk of being denied access because a period of marital bliss in the U.S. doesn't qualify as "tourism", their loyalty is obviously going to be tested. There is clearly an element of inequality to this too: rich Americans can have their spouses with them all the time, but the right to be with your own wife is a privilege denied to the poor. So somebody is rubbing their noses in the fact that, despite being armed forces members, they're still nobodies. That has to take a bite out of morale. As I recall this particular husband is in Australia right now, and if he still has obligations to the military, it seems like he has a moral right to desert at this point. True, Australia isn't a hostile country - but that could change any time if Trump starts telling them they have to hand over the suspended land claims in Antarctica and the Antarctic sanctuary waters they had the Sea Shepherds out defending. This is just one case and nothing of the sort is likely to happen, but roll those dice enough times and you're bound to come up snake eyes. Why exactly, in the name of national security, can't we just allow at least all the military members and veterans to sponsor their wives in the U.S. just as if they actually had been paid real money?

I fail to understand that.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the soldier's wife did visit the U.S. on numerous occasions and did so on a legit visa.
We don't know the exact dates of such visits but I am guessing that they were before the war on brown tattooed people began.
I have no idea if said wife plans on becoming a green card holder or more. It doesn't really have anything to do with why she was denied visiting her husband.
If you are questioning the loyalty of a military member, I think denying her the visit will test it because all this happened under this soldier's CIC.

 

[Ahlevah]

There is clearly an element of inequality to this too: rich Americans can have their spouses with them all the time, but the right to be with your own wife is a privilege denied to the poor.

No, rich Americans who marry foreigners and want their spouses with them all the time also have to follow the law. They have to file a Form-130 just like everyone else.

 

[bythoughts]

No, rich Americans who marry foreigners and want their spouses with them all the time also have to follow the law. They have to file a Form-130 just like everyone else.

I don't know if this is a factor in this particular case or not (I don't know his income) but this will affect some people. The military gets a whole 20% off the requirement:

2024 Marriage Visa Income Requirements for the Sponsoring Spouse - Boundless Immigration

The sponsor (U.S. citizen or permanent resident) typically must have an annual income that is at least 125% of the Federal Poverty Guidelines.

www.boundless.com

 

[Ahlevah]

Bet you never get it.

I think we’ll get one, but if that doesn’t happen I’d like to ask her a few questions. For example, what made the officer fly off the handle after being a cool cucumber? And what kind of visa was she using to make multiple entries into the U.S. in five months? How long had she stayed? Did she try to enter the country on false pretenses, or fail to disclose a material fact, possibly arousing suspicion that she was attempting to commit fraud, such as bypass the normal petitioning process for someone who wants to be reunited with their foreign spouse? Because the fastest way to get deported is to lie to or appear to mislead U.S. customs and immigration officials. This didn’t just start happening under Trump. It’s always been the case.

 

[Cosmo]

Sorry, this is absolutely believable.

This is what you guys are until you're not.

America is quickly becoming a no go zone.

Does that mean the endless inflow of illegals is coming to an end?

And I'm not shocked anymore.

 

[OlNate]

Does that mean the endless inflow of illegals is coming to an end?

hehe...you stay on this trajectory, then yeah, I would imagine you'd be less attractive to them as well. It's funny that some of you would think that would be a good thing. Well, more weird than funny I guess.

So, what now, Cosmo. What conversation were you hoping to inspire with that? I think it's obvious what I was implying. This is a ****ed up story, bud, and you guy are starting to accumulate ****ed up stories. You all good with that, or do stories like this, or the fact that a bunch of countries, all of whom appear to be your allies, are advising their citizens to carry burner phones when travelling to your country, maybe seem a little concerning?

 

[Ahlevah]

I don't know if this is a factor in this particular case or not (I don't know his income) but this will affect some people. The military gets a whole 20% off the requirement:

2024 Marriage Visa Income Requirements for the Sponsoring Spouse - Boundless Immigration

The sponsor (U.S. citizen or permanent resident) typically must have an annual income that is at least 125% of the Federal Poverty Guidelines.

www.boundless.com

If the petitioner doesn’t have the income to support his spouse he can have a joint sponsor help fill the gap.

 

[Cosmo]

hehe...you stay on this trajectory, then yeah, I would imagine you'd be less attractive to them as well. It's funny that some of you would think that would be a good thing. Well, more weird than funny I guess.

So, what now, Cosmo. What conversation were you hoping to inspire with that?

Not much dialog is invited when the opening post is a liberal meltdown about "fascist scumbags" because of some one-sided story from a woman who might have done an overnighter at a detention center.

I think it's obvious what I was implying. This is a ****ed up story, bud, and you guy are starting to accumulate ****ed up stories. You all good with that, or do stories like this, or the fact that a bunch of countries, all of whom appear to be your allies, are advising their citizens to carry burner phones when travelling to your country, maybe seem a little concerning?

 

[OlNate]

Not much dialog is invited when the opening post is a liberal meltdown about "fascist scumbags" because of some one-sided story from a woman who might have done an overnighter at a detention center.

So, why did you ping me, bud? If you don't find this a concerning messed up story, to where you'd want to know what actually happened more than you'd want to dismiss the story out of hand, and you can clearly see how I feel about the situation, what do want from me?

 

[Cosmo]

So, why did you ping me, bud? If you don't find this a concerning messed up story, to where you'd want to know what actually happened more than you'd want to dismiss the story out of hand, and you can clearly see how I feel about the situation, what do want from me?

You're overreacting as well with your "no go zone" nonsense.

 

[OlNate]

You're overreacting as well with your "no go zone" nonsense.

No I'm not. Again, per the part of my first response to you, you have your allies already advising their citizens to carry burner phones when they come to your country. As more and more stories like this come out, irrespective of how you attempt to downplay them, America will be seen as an unsafe place to go. The perception will be driven by your inability to get your shit together more than your half hearted denial. I mean, damn, is this the best you can come back with?

This interaction gets a 1/5 star rating from me, bud. I think you need a snack or a nap or something. Seriously, I'm rooting for you to come back with something spicy, I could use the dopamine.

 

[Cosmo]

No I'm not. Again, per the part of my first response to you, you have your allies already advising their citizens to carry burner phones when they come to your country. As more and more stories like this come out, irrespective of how you attempt to downplay them, America will be seen as an unsafe place to go.

When a place is unsafe to visit, you tell your citizens not to visit. Not to carry "burner phones."

The perception will be driven by your inability to get your shit together more than your half hearted denial. I mean, damn, is this the best you can come back with?

This interaction gets a 1/5 star rating from me, bud. I think you need a snack or a nap or something. Seriously, I'm rooting for you to come back with something spicy, I could use the dopamine.

 

[OlNate]

When a place is unsafe to visit, you tell your citizens not to visit. Not to carry "burner phones."

Nah, this ain't it... g'nite...hehe

 

[Cosmo]

Nah, this ain't it... g'nite...hehe

The phrase you're looking for is virtue signaling.

 

[OlNate]

The phrase you're looking for is virtue signaling.

Nah, you're just picking random slips of paper out a maga hat with buzz words on them and throwing them out there. Go to bed.

 

[Cosmo]

Nah, you're just picking random slips of paper out a maga hat with buzz words on them and throwing them out there. Go to bed.

Here's what a real travel advisory looks like:


Burner phones? Really?

 

[OlNate]

Here's what a real travel advisory looks like:
View attachment 67572368

Burner phones? Really?

Did you end up getting any sleep? Do you feel better this morning? Ready for a brand new day of deny deny deny?

Here's, hoping, buddy... hehe Cuz you were not bringing it last night.

As for travel advisories... if you're good with your allies telling their citizens that they need to be careful going to your country because of how bat shit crazy you've gotten down there, far be it from me to steal your sunshine... lol I make room for the fact that some of you want to be a shithole, have at it. It just makes Canada that much more attractive. Your brand suicide is our boon, basically, so please, continue, by all means.

 

[Old 'N Chill]

Is this really neccesary? It's a sick, ****ing show put on by our sadistic commander in chief. Anyone doing this work should feel degraded.

"The officer checking passports “went from completely composed to just yelling at the top of his lungs, telling my mother to go stand at the back of the line and to excuse my language, ‘shut up’,” Saroukos recalled."

...She was then put through a body cavity search before being paraded through the airport in handcuffs and taken to the federal detention center.

“They stated, ‘No, you’re not under arrest. You haven’t done anything wrong, and you’ll be facing no criminal charges.’ So I was very confused as to why this was all happening,” she said."

Was the cavity search recorded, which Fascist billionaire is going to buy copies for him and his devoted suckers?

 

[Cosmo]

Did you end up getting any sleep? Do you feel better this morning? Ready for a brand new day of deny deny deny?

No, ready for another day of pointing and laughing at leftists melting down over "fascist scumbags" and "no go zones" because someone did an overnighter in jail.

Here's, hoping, buddy... hehe Cuz you were not bringing it last night.

As for travel advisories... if you're good with your allies telling their citizens that they need to be careful going to your country because of how bat shit crazy you've gotten down there, far be it from me to steal your sunshine... lol I make room for the fact that some of you want to be a shithole, have at it. It just makes Canada that much more attractive. Your brand suicide is our boon, basically, so please, continue, by all means.

Our allies are welcome to virtue signal over how "crazy" we are, maybe even call us oppressive or take a page out of your book and call us a "no go zone." That's cool with me. Back in reality, I'm enjoying my gun and speech rights, and they can have hate speech laws and gun bans.

 

[OlNate]

No, ready for another day of pointing and laughing at leftists melting down over "fascist scumbags" and "no go zones" because someone did an overnighter in jail.

Our allies are welcome to virtue signal over how "crazy" we are, maybe even call us oppressive or take a page out of your book and call us a "no go zone." That's cool with me. Back in reality, I'm enjoying my gun and speech rights, and they can have hate speech laws and gun bans.

Lol... OK, bud, as the song goes, if it makes you happy it can't be that bad.

 

[Hamish Howl]

ICE is complaining that violence directed at their agents has gone up 400%.

Which makes me feel like some people are just mailing it in.

 

[Lightsoutlightson]

ICE cruelty may help Rep get massacred in the midterms & possibly even impeached. Plus it is more than politically foolish but is economically foolish. US needs people & ICE is going after gainfully employed, likely to meet a quota & to satisfy craving to be cruel, the same craving that drives Putin & drove Hitler.

 

[What if...?]

I agree.

But I think it's time for you guys to stop differentiating between yourselves and the folks doing and supporting this stuff. This is America now. They are doing this in your name too. Stop saying "they" and start saying "we", because otherwise none of the good folks are going to get pissed off enough to do anything about it. Calling it out and then going back to your dinner is not doing enough.

A lot of universal you's in there, I have no idea what you're doing personally. But I think it's a challenge each of you should accept and really reflect on. The time for words is past, people are suffering in real time. Action.

I do know that trains slow going uphill and it only takes a shovel and a bottle jack to derail one.

The more you know…

 

[What if...?]

So, then, the next question is, what are you going to do about it?

Don't worry, I know that's a complex question, I do not expect an answer right now. But I hope you'll all think about it, and I hope the answer isn't nothing - not even as a part of the most dangerous sentence: "there's nothing I can do".

I know I’m too old to enjoy it.

 

[What if...?]

Pretending it's all lies is pretty much all you have left at this point. But that's always been the escape for Trump supporters. Everyone else is lying except the felon rapist conman.

Ministry of Truth anyone?