I was relieved when Biden won our Presidency. Today I'm ecstatic.

[CaughtInThe]

I too was relieved and very happy that Biden won. Getting rid of Trump was my top priority. I really didn't care who replaced him. Today, I'm very dissatisified, disappointed in Biden and the democratic controlled congress as are a majority of Americans when one looks at the approval/disapproval ratings.

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Biden Job Approval

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Biden Job Approval

www.realclearpolitics.com

However, this doesn't mean I want Trump back. I don't. I'm one happy camper he's gone. It does mean the chances of me voting Republican in the midterms is very high. If Trump were to run again in 2024, I'd still vote against him no matter how dissatisfied I'm with Biden and company. Trump had to go and as far as I'm concerned, he has to stay gone. Now some other Republican candidate in 2024, that's a whole different ballgame.

You'll simply be voting for a party that tried to overturn a US election.

 

[Craig234]

You'll simply be voting for a party that tried to overturn a US election.

Among their many, many disastrous policies.

 

[Michael Cole]

Indeed.

When you have debates with people who are so similar to the ex president it's almost impossible to have debates. They so easily lie about things and then expect people to accept that as truth and debate about the lie.

It's so boring.

What they don't understand is they're the marks.

They see their god manipulating life with lies, repetition and tone. They see how it works. Understandably, they try it themselves. What they fail to realize is that this technique doesn't work on everybody. Indeed, it works only on them.

It is incredibly boring. That's by design. Keeps people focused on inanities while the serious stuff goes unnoticed. The end result, media-wise, is the difference between Hannity/Maddow and the PBS News Hour. Absolutely nobody watches the News Hour for entertainment.

And there's the other side of the coin. To those interested in infotainment, serious journalism is boring.

 

[CaughtInThe]

They see their god manipulating life with lies, repetition and tone. They see how it works. Understandably, they try it themselves. What they fail to realize is that this technique doesn't work on everybody. Indeed, it works only on them.

Rush Limbaugh ruined this country for generations.

And all so he could move out of his mommy and daddy's house.

 

[Craig234]

Rush Limbaugh ruined this country for generations.

He did more than his part, but he was just one small part of the propaganda. I'd say the construction of the propaganda machine - 'think tanks' and right-wing media Limbaugh was one person in - fit your comment.

 

[Taylor]

That's not at all what he's saying. Why lie about that?

It is what he's saying. And somehow he thinks Biden is responsible for keeping them out of Ukraine. It's really quite sad.

 

[Taylor]

Oh, I see you're now resorting to "Well, Russia drove across the non-visible line, so clearly it is all Biden's fault they just drove across that line!".

Not "resorting" to anything. I've simply been stating facts all along. For some reason, they don't align with your world view.

 

[Fishking]

All we've done is watch our old (corrupt and juvenile) head coach get fired (while crying like a baby and profiting off of continuing to lie) and be replaced by a competent new head coach while the fans of the old liar bitch and complain while the new head coach deals with a lot of world events.

"Deals with a lot of world events." That's an interesting way of saying, "Things going to shit on a global scale on his watch."

And what's really cool is that threads like this gives me tons of posts to bookmark since so many people can only think short term.

Go for it. It's not going to work out the way you think it will.

 

[CaughtInThe]

He did more than his part, but he was just one small part of the propaganda. I'd say the construction of the propaganda machine - 'think tanks' and right-wing media Limbaugh was one person in - fit your comment.

but how many "think tanks" preach to the choir on radio daily.

he may certainly repeat what they say but he was, for a long time, THE Republican king maker and BIGGEST seller of hate. that's the hate that we still fight today (since he "raised" many of the people we argue with).

• The Rush Limbaugh show was syndicated in 1988.
• Fox News started in 1996.

Eight years of nothing but Rush selling hate before Fox caught on and copied much of his system.

 

[Perotista]

You'll simply be voting for a party that tried to overturn a US election.

When one isn't satisified or very unhappy wwith the way things are going, one doesn't have a choice. One either votes for the alternative or one votes for the party in party which will continue to disappoint and try to pass things one opposes or a party that ignores this nation's most important problem just in order to please their base which if Gallup is correct, makes up but 30% of all of America. Then you have the fact that only 27% of all Americans think this country is headed in the right direction vs. 65% who don't.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/direction_of_country-902.html

Either the Democrats start governing and cease ignoring this nation's number one problem and begin to do something about it, I can guarantee that I'm not alone. Only govern to please your base, we'll see what happens come the midterm. People will vote their situation today, not for something that happened more than a year ago. That is past history, irrelevant to a thinning wallet.

 

[CaughtInThe]

It is what he's saying.

No. It's not.

 

[CaughtInThe]

When one isn't satisified or very unhappy wwith the way things are going, one doesn't have a choice.

sure you do. you can not vote for the party that just tried to end democracy and is taking over state houses and state legislatures so the next attempt won't fail.

one would think that's an easy choice.

 

[Slyfox696]

Not "resorting" to anything.

Yes you are. You're trying to claim retroactively that your comments had a different meaning than what you clearly intended at the time. No one believes you when you said (paraphrase) "Biden let Russia roll right in" that you meant Biden didn't put up a fence of the Russia/Ukraine border.

Trump defenders tell the worst lies.

I've simply been stating facts all along.

No, you haven't. Which I've repeatedly pointed out.

For some reason, they don't align with your world view.

It is indeed true that empty rhetoric and lies do not align with my world view.

 

[CaughtInThe]

Yes you are. You're trying to claim retroactively that your comments had a different meaning than what you clearly intended at the time. No one believes you when you said (paraphrase) "Biden let Russia roll right in" that you meant Biden didn't put up a fence of the Russia/Ukraine border.

Trump defenders tell the worst lies.

he's trying to play dumb as a defense.

 

[Perotista]

sure you do. you can not vote for the party that just tried to end democracy and is taking over state houses and state legislatures so the next attempt won't fail.

one would think that's an easy choice.

Perhaps it's time you look at reality. Most folks will vote the situation they're in today, not a year ago. Here's the generic congressional ballot which shows the Republicans slightly ahead for this years midterms. I think most independents look at Trump as past history, perhaps even ancient history. Inflation, rising prices, empty store shelves are here today. Thinning wallets as a result are here today. The Democrats persuing an agenda not wanted is here today.

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - 2022 Generic Congressional Vote

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - 2022 Generic Congressional Vote

www.realclearpolitics.com

The perception the Democrats don't want to do a thing about the rising price for a gallon of gas, about the cost of natural gas, about the price of a loaf of bread or a package of hot dogs to please their green energy wing of the democratic party are here today. Biden and company has lost the support of independents, swing voters, the non-affiliated, less to non-partisans. All the Democrats want to do is talk about Trump, then more Trump and then more Trump after that while the rest of America are spending more and more for the necessities of life. Are the Democrats stuck in the past? Do they realize what is happening today? Do they care?

 

[BirdinHand]

In these days of a major Russian invasion the alternative is terrifying.

I don't tend to take people on Twitter very seriously.

This chick is known for having said that she dates men "Whose own mother said wasn't honest".

Always interesting to see who people follow on social media, that's for sure.

 

[Slyfox696]

he's trying to play dumb as a defense.

There are a lot of people in this world for whom that would be a believable defense.

 

[Lycanthrope]

The image of an American president standing up there and carrying that dictator's water, accepting his propaganda and lies at face value ("President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today"), as Trump did in Helsinki is revolting.

Good to now have a President who's on our side.

Bumping this because it needs to be hammered home. There was no Trumpsplaining for it then, certainly none now.

 

[The flaming lib]

Does it hurt to have that much Trump in your head?

 

[AGENT J]

Trump would be helping Putin.

i dont know if he would becuase of the world stage of it . . . .

BUT i will say i have no doubt he would try . . . .and there would be zero shocked factor if he did . . . . . ZERO

Like i said I just thank god donnie is gone because the country and world is safer and better without him in the whitehouse

 

[Craig234]

but how many "think tanks" preach to the choir on radio daily.

They create the messaging that is a big part of what is broadcast daily.

Eight years of nothing but Rush selling hate before Fox caught on and copied much of his system.

Talk radio has been 95% right-wing for a long time.

 

[Grand Mal]

Did they roll right in or not? Seems they did.

You Biden apologists are continually trying to rewrite history.

Biden's 'minor incursion' comment roils diplomatic efforts to halt Russian invasion of Ukraine

Whether president misspoke or reflected European unease, the White House rushed to contain the damage. Ukraine reacts furiously.

www.latimes.com

So two months ago Biden underestimated the size of the Russian invasion. Well, at least you guys have something, right? Was that around the time Trump described Putin's move as 'genius'?

 

[CaughtInThe]

Perhaps it's time you look at reality. Most folks will vote the situation they're in today, not a year ago. Here's the generic congressional ballot which shows the Republicans slightly ahead for this years midterms. I think most independents look at Trump as past history, perhaps even ancient history. Inflation, rising prices, empty store shelves are here today. Thinning wallets as a result are here today. The Democrats persuing an agenda not wanted is here today.

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - 2022 Generic Congressional Vote

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - 2022 Generic Congressional Vote

www.realclearpolitics.com

The perception the Democrats don't want to do a thing about the rising price for a gallon of gas, about the cost of natural gas, about the price of a loaf of bread or a package of hot dogs to please their green energy wing of the democratic party are here today. Biden and company has lost the support of independents, swing voters, the non-affiliated, less to non-partisans. All the Democrats want to do is talk about Trump, then more Trump and then more Trump after that while the rest of America are spending more and more for the necessities of life. Are the Democrats stuck in the past? Do they realize what is happening today? Do they care?

Or you could vote against the party that just attempted the unthinkable. Overthrowing a US election.

Once that kind of thing starts happening, it's over.

 

[CaughtInThe]

i dont know if he would becuase of the world stage of it . . . .

BUT i will say i have no doubt he would try . . . .and there would be zero shocked factor if he did . . . . . ZERO

Like i said I just thank god donnie is gone because the country and world is safer and better without him in the whitehouse

He's probably trying to help Putin as we speak.

 

[Bullseye]

Oh look! More words you apparently don't know the meaning of.

You said "Putin behaved himself". He clearly didn't, as Greenbeard and I showed in an informative back and forth. You then, erroneously, claimed your comment was tongue-in-cheek, which makes absolutely no sense given you've been defending your comment. So I pointed out you don't seem to understand what tongue-in-cheek means and went on to explain what you really did mean and why you meant it.

So where that leaves us is you having said something dumb, me pointing out it was dumb, Greenbeard and I demonstrating why it was dumb, you using a phrase incorrectly, me pointing out why it was an improper use of the phrase and then circling back around to why your initial comment was dumb. And, finally, we've reached the stage where everyone can see how utterly ridiculous your comments have been and now you're just trying to escape with your e-ego intact.

I'll throw you an olive branch here. You are welcome to run away from this conversation and I won't reference your laughable "Putin behaved himself" comment again, if you would like.

No, I've been 100% accurate. You're now resorting to painfully generic statements to try and cover YOUR ignorance of what has happened in Ukraine, so you can deflect from your initial stupid comment that Russia rolled in.

It's not hard to do the honest thing and admit you just said something dumb. Go ahead and try it. It'll feel good, I promise.

Well, aren't you impressed with yourself? Too bad it's not shared by the forum. All your puffery and pomposity are laughable if non ludicrous.
By the way you need to dig a little deeper into the meaning and usage of "tongue in cheek".