I Want Evidence That Cheney is a Criminal

[G.I. Joe]

All I hear from you liberals day in and day out is how Dick Cheney is an evil criminal who should be prosecuted. Ok, it's time you got called out on this. Where is the evidence to support all you outlandish claims? If he were making the millions upon millions of dollars that you claim he is making from the Halliburton gov't contract, wouldn't that leave one heck of a paper trail? Somebody give me some kind of evidence, any evidence, that Dick Cheney is a criminal in any way, shape, or form. Otherwise stop whining, damn it's annoying.

 

[niftydrifty]

"Criminal"

Main Entry: crim·i·nal
Pronunciation: \ˈkri-mə-nəl, ˈkrim-nəl\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French or Late Latin; Anglo-French criminal, from Late Latin criminalis, from Latin crimin-, crimen crime
Date: 15th century

1: relating to, involving, or being a crime <criminal neglect>
2: relating to crime or to the prosecution of suspects in a crime <criminal statistics> <brought criminal action>
3: guilty of crime ; also : of or befitting a criminal

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Exhibit A

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Exhibit G

Exhibit H

Exhibit I

 

[apdst]

This is going to be a short thread :rofl

 

[niftydrifty]

This is going to be a short thread :rofl

LOL, I know. because you've already made up your mind, and don't care to read anything.

I'd like to see some evidence that "all" GI Joe hears from liberals day in and day out is how Dick Cheney is an evil criminal. How many threads are there? a couple? how many times has that been said, ever, on this website? a dozen? which claims is he talking about? the ones that have already been debated? who said he was making millions of dollars? when?

a criminal is someone guilty of crime. Cheney is not yet "guilty." However, trials have commenced with much less, than there is on Cheney. There won't be a trial, not because Cheney is innocent, but because Democrats have no balls.

 

[Arch Enemy]

They called me up to the big leagues.

I'm the big closer.


/thread.

 

[Renae]

I love these threads, the left figures only an idiot doubts them and calls the threads dead.

 

[niftydrifty]

I love these threads, the left figures only an idiot doubts them and calls the threads dead.

This thread isn't dead. Your ad hom non-argument has been noted.

 

[Scarecrow Akhbar]

Hmmm....

...."guilty of a crime".

Okay.

Please post a list of Cheney's criminal convictions.

 

[ARealConservative]

Hmmm....

...."guilty of a crime".

Okay.

Please post a list of Cheney's criminal convictions.

good point.

Cheney did not engage in criminal activity

And neither did Michael Jackson.

 

[niftydrifty]

it's possible to be "guilty of crime" without yet being "convicted."

 

[apdst]

LOL, I know. because you've already made up your mind, and don't care to read anything.

Left leaning articles aren't, "evidence", my friend. It doesn't matter how many times they get read, they amount to no more than propaganda.

it's possible to be "guilty of crime" without yet being "convicted."

American citizens have the right to the presumption of innocence. So, no, a person can't be, "guilty", until it's proven that he's guilty.

 

[niftydrifty]

Left leaning articles aren't, "evidence", my friend. It doesn't matter how many times they get read, they amount to no more than propaganda.

were any of the facts in the articles true, or not? you don't care to examine any of them. there are different kinds of evidence, such as circumstantial and indirect. you don't care about that, either, eh?

American citizens have the right to the presumption of innocence.

of course ... and ...

So, no, a person can't be, "guilty", until it's proven that he's guilty.

a person can be guilty, without being convicted, just like I said. a person is either guilty, or not. in Cheney's case, it SEEMS that he is, or could be. guilt is found out, by others, by going through the process of a trial.

but first, you have to take your fingers out of your ears, and care, about the rule of law, and about so much else, besides only what you want to believe.

 

[niftydrifty]

I'm happy to discuss, or debate, Bush/Cheney's criminal activities, any day of the week, with whomever. It's an easy win.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/true-debates/16538-new-true-debate-1-niftydrifty-vs-tot.html

 

[G.I. Joe]

Ok so far the only "evidence" I've received are articles from leftist web sites. Hell, one of the "exhibits" is a web site called the "World Socialist Web Site". You've got to be kidding me.

 

[Captain America]

The America I live in, nobody is a criminal until they are tried and found guilty.

Cheney is no more of a criminal than Clinton is as far as I'm concerned.

Slimeballs? Perhaps. Criminals? Not yet.

Myself, I just wanna move on. Can't get toothpaste back into the tube.

 

[Gardener]

Well, he certainly looks like a criminal.

 

[RightinNYC]

"Criminal"

Main Entry: crim·i·nal
Pronunciation: \ˈkri-mə-nəl, ˈkrim-nəl\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French or Late Latin; Anglo-French criminal, from Late Latin criminalis, from Latin crimin-, crimen crime
Date: 15th century

1: relating to, involving, or being a crime <criminal neglect>
2: relating to crime or to the prosecution of suspects in a crime <criminal statistics> <brought criminal action>
3: guilty of crime ; also : of or befitting a criminal

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Exhibit A

Exhibit B

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Exhibit F

Exhibit G

Exhibit H

Exhibit I

Can you provide me with a link to the statute that cheney has violated?

 

[WI Crippler]

Well, he certainly looks like a criminal.

Could you imagine how full our jails would be if thats all it took.

 

[Agent Ferris]

"Criminal"

Main Entry: crim·i·nal
Pronunciation: \ˈkri-mə-nəl, ˈkrim-nəl\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French or Late Latin; Anglo-French criminal, from Late Latin criminalis, from Latin crimin-, crimen crime
Date: 15th century

1: relating to, involving, or being a crime <criminal neglect>
2: relating to crime or to the prosecution of suspects in a crime <criminal statistics> <brought criminal action>
3: guilty of crime ; also : of or befitting a criminal

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Exhibit A

Exhibit B

Enhanced interrogation is not a crime. International and domestic law defines torture as acts which will cause extreme/severe mental or physical harm, the qualifiers of extreme/sever makes the definitions entirely subjective.

Exhibit C

Broke.

Exhibit D

Cheney makes nothing and/or loses nothing no matter how well or poorly Halliburton does.

Exhibit E

This one starts out with the treatment of detainees and goes on to regurgitate long dispelled lies regarding spinning intelligence and what not. The Senate Intelligence Report vetted the administration of spinning and/or manipulating intel.

Exhibit F

Subjective legal definitions again? Reading your links causes me sever mental anguish, I hereby find you guilty of torture.

Exhibit G

lol Dick Durbin having the audacity to accuse another of illegality? If anyone should be sitting in prison it is him.

Exhibit H

Exhibit I

The impeachment calls? Little late aren't we? Kucinich should be expelled from Congress for his direct opposition to the Constitution IE his unending attempts to crush the 1st and 2nd amendments of the Bill of Rights.

 

[niftydrifty]

Ok so far the only "evidence" I've received are articles from leftist web sites. Hell, one of the "exhibits" is a web site called the "World Socialist Web Site". You've got to be kidding me.

ok, so far the only "rebuttals" I've received amount to no more than lol's and "look at what your source is" and "a little too late for that" ... etc. you've got to be kidding me.

Can you provide me with a link to the statute that cheney has violated?

§ 2441. War Crimes

 

[niftydrifty]

The America I live in, nobody is a criminal until they are tried and found guilty.

Cheney is no more of a criminal than Clinton is as far as I'm concerned.

Slimeballs? Perhaps. Criminals? Not yet.

Myself, I just wanna move on. Can't get toothpaste back into the tube.

In the country I live in, laws exist for a reason, and they are worth upholding.

 

[celticlord]

§ 2441. War Crimes

And how has Cheney (or anyone else from the Bush Administration) violated 18 USC §2441?

Or, viewed more provocatively, what do you accuse Cheney of doing that Dear Leader is not also doing?

 

[niftydrifty]

And how has Cheney (or anyone else from the Bush Administration) violated 18 USC §2441?

anyone that conspires to commit one of the acts listed, as Cheney did, is in violation of the statute.

Or, viewed more provocatively, what do you accuse Cheney of doing that Dear Leader is not also doing?

predictably attempting to derail the train with a non-argument, and more of your insipid name-calling, is in no way provocative, at all.

 

[celticlord]

anyone that conspires to commit one of the acts listed, as Cheney did, is in violation of the statute.

Very good. Now put some meat on those bones.

predictably attempting to derail the train with a non-argument, and more of your insipid name-calling, is in no way provocative, at all.

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Non-argument? What do you accuse Dick Cheney of doing that Dear Leader is not continuing to do under color of law?

If it is legal for this administration, why is it illegal for the previous administration?

You are in high dudgeon about the sanctity of law. Where is your petition pursuing the impeachment of Dear Leader?

 

[apdst]

In the country I live in, laws exist for a reason, and they are worth upholding.

By that logic, we should have never abolished runaway slave laws. Let's re-instate the law that says a worker can only trade with the company store and can't move to a better paying job before the company store is paid off, but the worker makes less per week than it takes to live, so they'll never pay off the company store.