I refuse to vote for Mitt Romney

[Peter Grimm]

How do you figure? A non-vote is as strong a statement as a vote in some cases. It's called voting with your feet.

If Obama is re-elected because the conservatives don't come out for Romney.... that's a giant f-you to Romeny and the establishment Republicans who forced this unwanted candidate down our throats.

Let them deal with Obama for 4 years then.

Cool. Then you have no reason to bitch or complain about anything Obama does if he's re-elected.

 

[Ockham]

How do you figure? A non-vote is as strong a statement as a vote in some cases. It's called voting with your feet.

Unless the 3rd party has a realistic chance of winning an general election (which by the way, has not happened in American politics and is not poised to happen in 2012), your vote as a conservative goes against Romney and for Obama. It's simple math.

If Obama is re-elected because the conservatives don't come out for Romney.... that's a giant f-you to Romeny and the establishment Republicans who forced this unwanted candidate down our throats.

Romney doesn't really suffer from the f-you, you see he's fairly well off. The rest of us who have to endure the WORST of two bad options have to endure another 4 years of Obama. For me, I hold my nose and vote for Romney as he's the lesser of two bad options. I respect principles too... Romney is not my first through fourth choice either. But anyone in the GOP primary is a better option than Obama. You apparently disagree.

Let them deal with Obama for 4 years then.

The "them" is "us". Think Romney or the elits in any of the DNC or GOP will have to deal with anything? Hell no... most are very well off and have the ability to make lots of money in politics whether they hold office or not. Who has the "deal" are the rest of us who want smaller government, who want limits on the Fed, who want a balanced budget, etc. I don't see another 4 years of Obama and a dream team GOP in 2016 as better than getting Obama out now, and cutting the harm he does. Get Obama out, and let the GOP run someone else against Romney in 2016... I'm fine with that. Maybe they'll even run a Conservative in 2016 which would be great.

 

[Peter Grimm]

Well, then the way I see it, if the situation is so dire and the Republicans want the Tea Party vote, they better get behind one of the candidates who will draw us out to the polls then.

As it is, that won't be happening in the case of Romney. Good luck to them winning the general election on the backs of independents without the base conservative vote.

I for one am tired of being taken for granted as a tea party christian conservative. The Republicans have ASSUMED we will vote for whoever they put on the ticket, no matter how they get there.

That assumption will likely cost them dearly.

Unless the 3rd party has a realistic chance of winning an general election (which by the way, has not happened in American politics and is not poised to happen in 2012), your vote as a conservative goes against Romney and for Obama. It's simple math.

Romney doesn't really suffer from the f-you, you see he's fairly well off. The rest of us who have to endure the WORST of two bad options have to endure another 4 years of Obama. For me, I hold my nose and vote for Romney as he's the lesser of two bad options. I respect principles too... Romney is not my first through fourth choice either. But anyone in the GOP primary is a better option than Obama. You apparently disagree.


The "them" is "us". Think Romney or the elits in any of the DNC or GOP will have to deal with anything? Hell no... most are very well off and have the ability to make lots of money in politics whether they hold office or not. Who has the "deal" are the rest of us who want smaller government, who want limits on the Fed, who want a balanced budget, etc. I don't see another 4 years of Obama and a dream team GOP in 2016 as better than getting Obama out now, and cutting the harm he does. Get Obama out, and let the GOP run someone else against Romney in 2016... I'm fine with that. Maybe they'll even run a Conservative in 2016 which would be great.

 

[Ockham]

Well, then the way I see it, if the situation is so dire and the Republicans want the Tea Party vote, they better get behind one of the candidates who will draw us out to the polls then.

As it is, that won't be happening in the case of Romney. Good luck to them winning the general election on the backs of independents without the base conservative vote.

I for one am tired of being taken for granted as a tea party christian conservative. The Republicans have ASSUMED we will vote for whoever they put on the ticket, no matter how they get there.

That assumption will likely cost them dearly.

Don't misinterpret me... I'm with you and while I'm a Christian I'm not part of the evangelical right.... I'm certainly fiscally and economically conservative while moderate in my social policy. I can only speak for myself that I HAVE to pick the best of the worst. I did as you want to do - I voted for Perrot.... it was a disaster. I'm open to a 3rd party but only if they can win - otherwise we have to deal with the hand we have and if that's Romney vs. Obama, I sure as HELL am not staying home and can't vote Obama.

 

[hazlnut]

I try to avoid it, but I can be a single-issue voter. If someone's wrong on gun control or the space program, I will vote against them if I have a choice.

If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

 

[SheWolf]

President Obama thanks you for your support

We should demand better than just voting for the anti Obama candidate. Your attitude won't change anything. I have more respect for a person who will vote third party and make a statement rather than vote for the lesser of two evils. People who vote that way, are contributing and supporting a flawed, two party political system. If you don't like whom you're voting for, you're just being used by the system and you're casting a vote to **** yourself as well as the rest of us.

 

[Misterveritis]

As a staunch tea party conservative, I take the position that I will vote for any Republican in the field... except for Mitt Romney.

I cannot in my right mind vote for a Massachusetts progressive who practically authored the Obamacare law - I simply won't do it.

I'm not buying the "anybody but Obama" rhetoric Glenn Beck and the right wing media is spouting out.

If it comes to Romeny vs Obama, I will personally sit this election out.


Do other conservatives feel the same way?

That is your right, of course. I suppose real soon now I shall have to say the "two term Marxist president Barack Hussein Obama". If a polar bear coke can is our niminee I will vote for it before Obama. Any other way to think of it means the end of America.

 

[SgtRock]

As a staunch tea party conservative, I take the position that I will vote for any Republican in the field... except for Mitt Romney.

I cannot in my right mind vote for a Massachusetts progressive who practically authored the Obamacare law - I simply won't do it.

I'm not buying the "anybody but Obama" rhetoric Glenn Beck and the right wing media is spouting out.

If it comes to Romeny vs Obama, I will personally sit this election out.


Do other conservatives feel the same way?

May as well cast a vote for Obama then.

 

[Jeezy]

As a staunch tea party conservative...

...sew cul.

 

[StillBallin75]

Seeing how a lot of republican's attitude is a ****ty republican is better than no republican or that a vote for anyone else but a republican is a vote for Obama I seriously doubt that. Those people could care less if the guy running is practically the same as the guy they oppose just as long as he or she has a R next to their name.

Yeah, the reason a lot of them think that way is because the hardcore fringe conservatives really don't have a chance in hell.

 

[jamesrage]

Yeah, the reason a lot of them think that way is because the hardcore fringe conservatives really don't have a chance in hell.

It has nothing to do with that.A lot of people are just simply party first and beliefs second, third, or last. They lack any conviction and fail to realize that when you vote for the lesser of two evils you are just driving that party further and further to what that evil is.

 

[MarineTpartier]

You know what, Mr Peter Grimm, you have changed my mind. I am Romney flip flopping and not voting for the status quo candidate. Thank you sir for making me realize I need to stick to my guns and not just vote for anyone. I think if more people think like this, Romney will lose, the talking heads known as O'Reilly, Beck, Limbaugh, etc will notice it and the next time around maybe we'll get a real conservative instead of a no backbone moderate wrapped up in conservative wrapping paper. I am all about the long term approach and toughing it out for 4 more years. If it changes conservatives, its worth it. Thanks again man. I mean that.

 

[Misterveritis]

It has nothing to do with that.A lot of people are just simply party first and beliefs second, third, or last. They lack any conviction and fail to realize that when you vote for the lesser of two evils you are just driving that party further and further to what that evil is.

A third party vote to avoid the "lesser of two evils" is, in fact, a vote for the greater evil.

 

[poweRob]

A third party vote to avoid the "lesser of two evils" is, in fact, a vote for the greater evil.

such a hypothesis is about as unAmerican as it gets.

How dare one spend their vote how he/she wants. They better fall into one of the two lines dammit!

Democracy = choice and Dems v Repubs isn't really much of a choice. So why is it you hate democracy so much?

 

[jamesrage]

A third party vote to avoid the "lesser of two evils" is, in fact, a vote for the greater evil.

The only thing you are doing by voting for the lesser of two evils is ensuring that we will get someone even worse the next election. Why would someone who calls them self a conservative vote for a lib? Voting for a blatant liberal when you claim to be a conservative only makes you a liar.

 

[Catawba]

Perhaps if people actually actually voted with their hearts instead of just voting for the lesser of two evils we wouldn't be stuck with these lousy politicians.

Until humans are without fault, we will always be voting for the lesser of evils.

 

[TurtleDude]

There is NO major issue upon which I agree with Obama on

I agree with Romney on as many major issues as I do other GOP contenders

I probably agree with some fringe candidate more than Romney

If I wish to maximize my chance of getting as much as I want, its obvious to support a candidate that has a good chance of winning who I agree with 65% of the time than voting for a guy I agree with 85% of the time who has no chance of winning

 

[ZIRP4EVA]

As a staunch tea party conservative, I take the position that I will vote for any Republican in the field... except for Mitt Romney.

I cannot in my right mind vote for a Massachusetts progressive who practically authored the Obamacare law - I simply won't do it.

I'm not buying the "anybody but Obama" rhetoric Glenn Beck and the right wing media is spouting out.

If it comes to Romeny vs Obama, I will personally sit this election out.


Do other conservatives feel the same way?

I completely disagree with your logic.

The number one goal of every citizen (note I did not say every conservative) should be to end the Obama administration. Thats it. End Obama. If it takes Romney to do so, then so be it. The very survival of our republic is at stake in this election and I personally will not sit idly by to see it fail.

 

[Catawba]

There is NO major issue upon which I agree with Obama on

LOL! Now there is a surprise! That would be because Obama is not the extreme right that puts greed before what's best for the country and its people.

 

[TurtleDude]

LOL! Now there is a surprise! That would be because Obama is not the extreme right that puts greed before what's best for the country and its people.

Nah

it is because Obama is an incompetent turd who was elected by those who are at best-ambivalent towards America's greatness and think the purpose of government is to help them get even for being less successful than they think they deserve to be. I also understand that true greed is thinking you are entitled to the property of others and that government exists to help you take what you are unable or unwilling to earn on your own

 

[Catawba]

Nah

it is because Obama is an incompetent turd who was elected by those who are at best-ambivalent towards America's greatness and think the purpose of government is to help them get even for being less successful than they think they deserve to be. I also understand that true greed is thinking you are entitled to the property of others and that government exists to help you take what you are unable or unwilling to earn on your own

i think your appeal there to the working class will fall flat, but don't let that stop you!

 

[TurtleDude]

i think your appeal there to the working class will fall flat, but don't let that stop you!

That's why I don't run for office. I don't have to suck up to people who are used to being pandered to by Pimps like Obama etc. One of the biggest problems in this country is that the "working class" really doesn't

 

[Catawba]

That's why I don't run for office. I don't have to suck up to people who are used to being pandered to by Pimps like Obama etc. One of the biggest problems in this country is that the "working class" really doesn't

I love it when the far-right talks **** about the majority of voters in the country! Would you mind keeping it up until November!

 

[Zyphlin]

There is NO major issue upon which I agree with Obama on

You disagreed with keeping guantonimo open?

You disagreed with not trying KSM in the states?

You disagreed with continuing the PATRIOT Act?

You disagreed with following the Bush timetable for Iraq?

You were against the iraqesque Surge in Afghanistan?

You were against extending the now bush/Obama tax cuts?

You were against lowering the pay roll tax?

 

[poweRob]

I completely disagree with your logic.

The number one goal of every citizen (note I did not say every conservative) should be to end the Obama administration. Thats it. End Obama. If it takes Romney to do so, then so be it. The very survival of our republic is at stake in this election and I personally will not sit idly by to see it fail.

:facepalm: