I REALLY Like this Susan Elizabeth Rice. She'll Make a GREAT Sec of State!

[Bill Wiltrack]

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Didn't know too much about her until recently.


She REALLY has a poise and quality about her.


Susan Elizabeth Rice (born November 17, 1964) is an African-American American diplomat, former think-tank fellow, and the current United States Ambassador to the United Nations. Rice served on the staff of the National Security Council and as Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs during President Bill Clinton's second term. Rice was confirmed as UN Ambassador by the U.S. Senate by unanimous consent on January 22, 2009.


Rice was born in Washington, D.C., to Emmett J. Rice (1919–2011), Cornell University economics professor and the second black governor of the Federal Reserve System; and education policy scholar Lois (Dickson) Fitt, currently at the Brookings Institution. Her parents divorced during her youth.


Despite the same surname, Susan Rice is of no direct relation to Condoleezza Rice.


Rice was a three-sport athlete, student council president, and valedictorian at National Cathedral School in Washington, D.C., a private girls' day school .[5] She played point guard in basketball and directed the offense, acquiring the nickname "Spo", short for "Sportin'".


Rice said that her parents taught her to "never use race as an excuse or advantage", and as a young girl she "dreamed of becoming the first U.S.*Senator from the District of Columbia".She also held "lingering fears" that her accomplishments would be diminished by people who attributed them to affirmative action.After her father's death in 2011, she said, “He believed segregation had constrained him from being all he could be. The psychological hangover of that took him decades to overcome. His most fervent wish was that we not have that psychological baggage.”


Rice attended Stanford University, where she received a Truman Scholarship, and graduated with a B.A. in history in 1986. She was elected to Phi Beta Kappa.


Awarded a Rhodes Scholarship, Rice attended New College, Oxford, where she earned a M.Phil. in 1988 and D.Phil. in 1990. The Chatham House-British International Studies Association honored her dissertation entitled, "Commonwealth Initiative in Zimbabwe, 1979-1980: Implication for International Peacekeeping" as the UK's most distinguished in international relations.


Rice's classmates and professors at Oxford included advocates of the role of the United Nations and international law (Sir Adam Roberts, Benedict Kingsbury), of global economic governance and international economic cooperation (Ngaire Woods, Donald Markwell),and of a firm stance against Russian authoritarianism (Michael McFaul).


On December 1, 2008, Rice was nominated by President-elect Obama to be the U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations,a position which he also upgraded to cabinet level. Rice is the second youngest and first African American woman US Representative to the UN.




Susan Elizabeth Rice, very, VERY impressive.




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[sawyerloggingon]

This could be put in Wikipedia as an example of a bait thread.

 

[specklebang]

How so? Real and respectful question from someone trying to learn.

This could be put in Wikipedia as an example of a bait thread.

 

[jamesrage]

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Didn't know too much about her until recently.


She REALLY has a poise and quality about her.


Susan Elizabeth Rice (born November 17, 1964) is an African-American American diplomat, former think-tank fellow, and the current United States Ambassador to the United Nations. Rice served on the staff of the National Security Council and as Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs during President Bill Clinton's second term. Rice was confirmed as UN Ambassador by the U.S. Senate by unanimous consent on January 22, 2009.


Rice was born in Washington, D.C., to Emmett J. Rice (1919–2011), Cornell University economics professor and the second black governor of the Federal Reserve System; and education policy scholar Lois (Dickson) Fitt, currently at the Brookings Institution. Her parents divorced during her youth.


Despite the same surname, Susan Rice is of no direct relation to Condoleezza Rice.


Rice was a three-sport athlete, student council president, and valedictorian at National Cathedral School in Washington, D.C., a private girls' day school .[5] She played point guard in basketball and directed the offense, acquiring the nickname "Spo", short for "Sportin'".


Rice said that her parents taught her to "never use race as an excuse or advantage", and as a young girl she "dreamed of becoming the first U.S.*Senator from the District of Columbia".She also held "lingering fears" that her accomplishments would be diminished by people who attributed them to affirmative action.After her father's death in 2011, she said, “He believed segregation had constrained him from being all he could be. The psychological hangover of that took him decades to overcome. His most fervent wish was that we not have that psychological baggage.”


Rice attended Stanford University, where she received a Truman Scholarship, and graduated with a B.A. in history in 1986. She was elected to Phi Beta Kappa.


Awarded a Rhodes Scholarship, Rice attended New College, Oxford, where she earned a M.Phil. in 1988 and D.Phil. in 1990. The Chatham House-British International Studies Association honored her dissertation entitled, "Commonwealth Initiative in Zimbabwe, 1979-1980: Implication for International Peacekeeping" as the UK's most distinguished in international relations.


Rice's classmates and professors at Oxford included advocates of the role of the United Nations and international law (Sir Adam Roberts, Benedict Kingsbury), of global economic governance and international economic cooperation (Ngaire Woods, Donald Markwell),and of a firm stance against Russian authoritarianism (Michael McFaul).


On December 1, 2008, Rice was nominated by President-elect Obama to be the U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations,a position which he also upgraded to cabinet level. Rice is the second youngest and first African American woman US Representative to the UN.




Susan Elizabeth Rice, very, VERY impressive.




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You do know that this is the breaking news section not the butt smooching and salad tossing(anal oral sex) section?

 

[Mycroft]

Didn't know too much about her until recently.

She REALLY has a poise and quality about her.

Susan Elizabeth Rice (born November 17, 1964) is an African-American American diplomat, former think-tank fellow, and the current United States Ambassador to the United Nations. Rice served on the staff of the National Security Council and as Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs during President Bill Clinton's second term. Rice was confirmed as UN Ambassador by the U.S. Senate by unanimous consent on January 22, 2009.

Rice was born in Washington, D.C., to Emmett J. Rice (1919–2011), Cornell University economics professor and the second black governor of the Federal Reserve System; and education policy scholar Lois (Dickson) Fitt, currently at the Brookings Institution. Her parents divorced during her youth.

Despite the same surname, Susan Rice is of no direct relation to Condoleezza Rice.

Rice was a three-sport athlete, student council president, and valedictorian at National Cathedral School in Washington, D.C., a private girls' day school .[5] She played point guard in basketball and directed the offense, acquiring the nickname "Spo", short for "Sportin'".

Rice said that her parents taught her to "never use race as an excuse or advantage", and as a young girl she "dreamed of becoming the first U.S.*Senator from the District of Columbia".She also held "lingering fears" that her accomplishments would be diminished by people who attributed them to affirmative action.After her father's death in 2011, she said, “He believed segregation had constrained him from being all he could be. The psychological hangover of that took him decades to overcome. His most fervent wish was that we not have that psychological baggage.”

Rice attended Stanford University, where she received a Truman Scholarship, and graduated with a B.A. in history in 1986. She was elected to Phi Beta Kappa.

Awarded a Rhodes Scholarship, Rice attended New College, Oxford, where she earned a M.Phil. in 1988 and D.Phil. in 1990. The Chatham House-British International Studies Association honored her dissertation entitled, "Commonwealth Initiative in Zimbabwe, 1979-1980: Implication for International Peacekeeping" as the UK's most distinguished in international relations.

Rice's classmates and professors at Oxford included advocates of the role of the United Nations and international law (Sir Adam Roberts, Benedict Kingsbury), of global economic governance and international economic cooperation (Ngaire Woods, Donald Markwell),and of a firm stance against Russian authoritarianism (Michael McFaul).

On December 1, 2008, Rice was nominated by President-elect Obama to be the U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations,a position which he also upgraded to cabinet level. Rice is the second youngest and first African American woman US Representative to the UN.


Susan Elizabeth Rice, very, VERY impressive.

How does any of this make her qualified to be SecState? What has she done as U.N. Ambassador that makes her qualified?

While you are pondering those questions, I'd like to point out a couple of other things:

1. I reject both of your choices in your poll. Neither of them are qualified to be SecState.

2. Your tendency to oversize the text in your posts is quite irritating to me. Believe me, making your words bigger doesn't give them more relevance or importance.

 

[RepublicanMcDuc]

Another one of these posts?

 

[Mycroft]

You do know that this is the breaking news section not the butt smooching and salad tossing(anal oral sex) section?

Actually, this is the "General Political Discussion" forum...but it doesn't belong here either, since it has a poll attached to it.

 

[Bill Wiltrack]

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Actually, making my words bigger does give them more relevance and importance.


Didn't notice that until you pointed that out for me.



Thank you.



I appreciate your attempts to articulate your thoughts upon this thread.





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[sawyerloggingon]

How so? Real and respectful question from someone trying to learn.

It's a bait thread because of her role in the Benghazi misinformation campaign which should be the main focus on her right now. Purposely ignoring that with her flowery resume is trolling bait through the forum like I troll for mackinaw in the local lake.

 

[Fenton]

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Didn't know too much about her until recently.


She REALLY has a poise and quality about her.


Susan Elizabeth Rice (born November 17, 1964) is an African-American American diplomat, former think-tank fellow, and the current United States Ambassador to the United Nations. Rice served on the staff of the National Security Council and as Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs during President Bill Clinton's second term. Rice was confirmed as UN Ambassador by the U.S. Senate by unanimous consent on January 22, 2009.


Rice was born in Washington, D.C., to Emmett J. Rice (1919–2011), Cornell University economics professor and the second black governor of the Federal Reserve System; and education policy scholar Lois (Dickson) Fitt, currently at the Brookings Institution. Her parents divorced during her youth.


Despite the same surname, Susan Rice is of no direct relation to Condoleezza Rice.


Rice was a three-sport athlete, student council president, and valedictorian at National Cathedral School in Washington, D.C., a private girls' day school .[5] She played point guard in basketball and directed the offense, acquiring the nickname "Spo", short for "Sportin'".


Rice said that her parents taught her to "never use race as an excuse or advantage", and as a young girl she "dreamed of becoming the first U.S.*Senator from the District of Columbia".She also held "lingering fears" that her accomplishments would be diminished by people who attributed them to affirmative action.After her father's death in 2011, she said, “He believed segregation had constrained him from being all he could be. The psychological hangover of that took him decades to overcome. His most fervent wish was that we not have that psychological baggage.”


Rice attended Stanford University, where she received a Truman Scholarship, and graduated with a B.A. in history in 1986. She was elected to Phi Beta Kappa.


Awarded a Rhodes Scholarship, Rice attended New College, Oxford, where she earned a M.Phil. in 1988 and D.Phil. in 1990. The Chatham House-British International Studies Association honored her dissertation entitled, "Commonwealth Initiative in Zimbabwe, 1979-1980: Implication for International Peacekeeping" as the UK's most distinguished in international relations.


Rice's classmates and professors at Oxford included advocates of the role of the United Nations and international law (Sir Adam Roberts, Benedict Kingsbury), of global economic governance and international economic cooperation (Ngaire Woods, Donald Markwell),and of a firm stance against Russian authoritarianism (Michael McFaul).


On December 1, 2008, Rice was nominated by President-elect Obama to be the U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations,a position which he also upgraded to cabinet level. Rice is the second youngest and first African American woman US Representative to the UN.




Susan Elizabeth Rice, very, VERY impressive.




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I bet you do. She knows how to perpetuate an unconvincing lie.

She said the protest was "a fact" when she ventured out onto 5 news shows to push a false narrative.

Obama voters like being lied to. What'r you gonna do ?

 

[johnny_rebson]

This could be put in Wikipedia

Will her Wikipedia page someday mention the role she played in the impeachment of Obama?

 

[Mycroft]

Actually, making my words bigger does give them more relevance and importance.

Didn't notice that until you pointed that out for me.

Thank you.

I appreciate your attempts to articulate your thoughts upon this thread.

So...have you pondered my questions enough to respond to them?

 

[Bill Wiltrack]

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How to perpetuate an unconvincing lie?




Wait a minute, I ah, um, I'm NOT talking about Condoleezza Rice.


Please re-read this thread.




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[Mycroft]

Hey, Bill...it looks like you aren't getting much action on your poll.

 

[Bill Wiltrack]

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Do you know me?



...OH!...THAT poll.



I take EVERY hit as a positive affirmation for Susan Rice.



Most people, even though they are able to hide behind a phoney moniker are afraid to commit themselves.


So, you can vote on the poll every time you hit.



Thanks a lot for keeping track of my poll!







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[Mycroft]

Do you know me?

...OH!...THAT poll.

I take EVERY hit as a positive affirmation for Susan Rice.

Most people, even though they are able to hide behind a phoney moniker are afraid to commit themselves.

So, you can vote on the poll every time you hit.

Thanks a lot for keeping track of my poll!

Ummm...

I'm guessing you don't know how polls operate on this forum.

 

[specklebang]

Ah. Got it. Too many people named Rice and my declining brain-power was why I asked. Thanks!

It's a bait thread because of her role in the Benghazi misinformation campaign which should be the main focus on her right now. Purposely ignoring that with her flowery resume is trolling bait through the forum like I troll for mackinaw in the local lake.

 

[Fenton]

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How to perpetuate an unconvincing lie?




Wait a minute, I ah, um, I'm NOT talking about Condoleezza Rice.


Please re-read this thread.




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Now you're bring Condoleeza Rice into this. Don't you people have enough diversions ? I mean your desperate attempts won't work but still.

You're probably thinking yourself pretty clever huh ? Because you think by her lying to the American people 5 times in one day and us wanting answers we've given her free publicity ??

Lol....the twisted mind of a liberal hard....and I mean HARD at work.

Do you think Ambassador Stevens Family would support her nomination ?

 

[Bill Wiltrack]

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The tragedy is that 4 Americans were killed.


It doesn't matter HOW this was or was not characterized at any certain time.


This tragedy should NOT be politicized... by either party.


Period.




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[jamesrage]

Actually, this is the "General Political Discussion" forum...but it doesn't belong here either, since it has a poll attached to it.

At the time of the post it was in the breaking news section.

 

[Mycroft]

At the time of the post it was in the breaking news section.

Oh. I didn't know that. My bad.

 

[donsutherland1]

My quick thoughts on Ambassador Rice:

Positive Attributes:
1. She has the intellectual capacity to serve as Secretary of State.
2. She has an understanding of failed/failing states, which is a relevant topic in the contemporary world.
3. She understands the important role diplomacy can/should play in advancing a nation's interests/foreign policy goals.


Things I haven't yet looked at in great detail:
1. Does she have the personality and temperament to serve as Secretary of State. Despite his past service, one example of a candidate whose temperament would have been a bad fit would have been Ambassador John Bolton (far too blunt for a high-level diplomatic position and a stark worldview that is at odds with the level of nuance involved in diplomatic undertakings).
2. Her general perceptions on the importance of the balance of power in promoting/sustaining stability.
3. Her general views on the role and limits of international law/international organizations e.g., the UN.

Concern(s):

My single concern is that she might be too predisposed to favor military interventions on humanitarian grounds. Excepting for genocide, I have reservations about such use of force when there is a disconnect from the nation's critical interests, the limitations on what can be accomplished by military force (post-regime change issues in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and even Egypt provide a cautionary note), and of course the nation's long-term fiscal context in which fiscal resources will not be a freely available as they had been even in recent years. She has referred to a "responsibility to protect" in the past and I would certainly like to know more specifics about her views on that matter.

Benghazi Terrorist Attack:

In terms of her statements on the Benghazi terrorist attack, if she took a cautious route and adhered strictly to the CIA's talking points, I'm wouldn't be inclined to hold them against her. As Ambassador to the UN she would not have access to the kind of information available to former CIA Director Petraueus and current Secretary of State Clinton. I'm not aware of concrete evidence that she was given different information that she ignored in her statements on the terrorist attack.

In sum, I believe she has the academic and intellectual capacity to serve as Secretary of State. She also has some prior diplomatic experience. My final assessment would depend largely on her testimony where some of the questions/issues I noted would likely be explored. Even if I disagree with some of her positions, that would not necessarily mean that I would not think she should be Secretary of State, even if I had other preferences. Ultimately, she will serve at the President's pleasure and she will be responsible for advancing his foreign policy.

 

[jamesrage]

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You should lay off the butt smooching.

 

[Fenton]

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The tragedy is that 4 Americans were killed.


It doesn't matter HOW this was or was not characterized at any certain time.


This tragedy should NOT be politicized... by either party.


Period.




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....unless George W Bush is in office !! I mean it's too bad he wasn't in office, you libz would "care" more. At least enough for Harry Reid to agree to a independent special investigation.

Really dude. Yell all you want truth is an obvious cover up from ANY White House needs to be investigated by a third party panel not beholden to Obama and his influences.

First Obama failed. Period. After 2 prior attacks on the Embassy, one which blew a friken hole in the compound wall' and the removal of other Western Ambassadors and their staff and with numerous E-Mails stating that they were NOT safe Obama's choice was to leave the Ambassador and his staff in place and NOT up the security. Not even for the 9//11 anniversary.

He put their lives in danger to perpetuate a false narrative that Al Qaeda was on the run.

When a obvious terrorist attack on SEPTEMBER 11th took place, and the intel community headed up by Patraeus knew with in a few hours that it was a terrorist attack, ( and lets face it, Obama and Hillary and Rice knew too ) Obama continued with a false story of an out of control protest......to perpetuate the Narrative that " Al Qaeda " was on the run.

He sent out Rice onto Sunday morning shows 5 times....to perpetuate the false Narrative" that it wasn't a terrorist attack all to push the bigger lie that Al Qaeda was on the run.
She lies to the American peoples faces 5 times and you give her props.......sounds about right.

When the Consul was under attack, General Hamm got a drone their in 17 minutes armed with......a camera.
But the liberals and Obama's administration want us t believe that in no way could they have sent in military help. CIA officials in Benghazi report being told to " stand down" as the Consul was being attacked.

So basically in more ways then one the ambassador and the three people that lost their lives were given up for sacrifice by Obama.

Now I know he's twisted but what is more concerning are the amount of people who thinks those four lives were worth the re-election of an incompetent President who's policies have condemned more middle class families to misery and chronic joblessness than any President before him.

So don't tell us to NOT politicize it when the Ambassadors presence in Libya on that day was a political decision by the White House to perpetuate the lie that " Al Qaeda was on it's heels" . What's the stupid talking point Obama used " Osamas dead, GMs alive "??? LOL !!!

They're on life support buddy.

You continue to politicize it by defending the main characters involved and ignoring the obvious cover up that you wouldn't accept under ANY Republican President.

I guess soldiers and Ambassadors lives mean less when Obama's in office.

 

[Bill Wiltrack]

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tl;dr




Why is a characterization of a term more important to you than the loss of four American lives?


What is this fascination about a term?

If this characterization is important to you why don't you discern the adverb yourself for yourself?

This discussion is difficult to continue...I feel as if you are demeaning the fact of the loss of life. Sorry.



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