How the White Man Voted

[Redress]

Nothing like the smell of racism in the morning. How do you know what "most blacks" think? Is this conservative mindreading again.

Answer this question, Houdini:

Why should any black person vote for the party of the Willie Horton ad, the Welfare Queen rhetoric, and the Southern Strategy, not to mention disastrous economic policy and an uncanny willingness to send black soldiers over to idiotic wars for no purpose?

You need to learn what racism is. Assuming a racial group thinks a certain way is not racism. Crying racism every chance you get is just as bad as assuming you know how other people think.

 

[Redress]

You must have missed this part:

That is not a motivation. Nice try though.

 

[ecofarm]

That is not a motivation. Nice try though.

"Good ol' white boy" doesn't carry racism implications? What planet is this?

 

[danarhea]

Reasons I didn't vote for Romney.

1) I'm half Jewish.
2) I have black people in my family.
3) Most of my neighbors are Mexican.
4) I work for a Persian company.
5) I have Arab friends.
6) My wife is a woman.
7) My boss' wife is Persian, AND she is a woman too.
8) I like Chinese restaurants.
9) My mother was from Europe.

And number 10................... Drum roll, please.........

10) I'm a SENSIBLE White guy.

NOTE: I figured that, if ya' gotta race bait, then do it in a huge way. :mrgreen:

 

[Redress]

"Good ol' white boy" doesn't carry racism implications? What planet is this?

Might want to learn what the word "racist" means. Might also note that there is a difference between assigning a motive to a group of people and racism. Moving the goalpost isn't going to work for you.

 

[Aunt Spiker]

I always here about how the women voted, how the Hispanics votes, Black population and even married or single women;
but never much about how the good ole white boy voted:
http://www.ijreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/enhanced-buzz-wide-1035-1352488120-4.jpeg


I'd have posted a pic but the machine said its too big.


Thought it was kind of an interesting map.

:rofl Did you READ that ****ing article? :rofl I don't think you did.


What The 2012 Election Would Have Looked Like Without Universal Suffrage (link to the article they snagged that befangled map from CNN and a few others)

(excerpt from the article)

But at America's founding, only white men could vote, and the franchise has only slowly expanded to include people of color, women, and — during the Vietnam War — people under 21. These maps show how American politics would have looked in that undemocratic past.

LOL

Oh - the stupidity of white dudes all that time ago. . . I swear. I'm glad most guys aren't like that anymore. :rofl
Not BACK THEN they were like that - NOT NOW. That's why they opposed blacks gaining the right to vote - and women - because they wouldn't be the voting majority anymore.

 

[ecofarm]

Might want to learn what the word "racist" means.

Really? This is the level of debate you expect? I got an idea. How about you (and everyone else) use the sociological definition so we can dispatch the "reverse-racism", "black racism" and such BS. No? I didn't think so. Why would anyone use the intellectual definition of racism.

But, hey, I'm just a gender specializing Phd candidate. I just have many grad level sociology, anthropology and such classes. I'm sure your definition of racism is the bee's knees.

 

[Rainman05]

But, hey, I'm just a gender specializing Phd candidate. I just have many grad level sociology, anthropology and such classes. I'm sure your definition of racism is the bee's knees.

That is panopticon level of argument. I know you are much, much better than that.

 

[PrometheusBound]

Letter to a future Republican strategist regarding white people

Garland represents only a small clique of White people: spoiled, sheltered, suburban-born snobs. With the usual self-centeredness of his class, he expects the Republicans to cater to his ignorant fads as the key to getting back the 40% of the White vote they lost to Obama.

Whites from Middle America now face the same challenge they did in the Revolutionary War: losing the country to the British aristocracy and its Indian allies. The GOP represents the Redcoats, while the Democrats would have supported the Indians. Whites who voted for Obama instead of staying home are like people of the revolutionary era running away from the British thinking they could find safety in the forests, where instead they would be surrounded by hostile Indians and wiped out. If Whites have no future in the USA (now a colony of the UN), it is because they don't understand their past or are not manly enough to continue marching towards the destiny that those Americans knew was theirs.

 

[ecofarm]

That is panopticon level of argument. I know you are much, much better than that.

I'm not doing the "racism definition" thing. I prefer the sociological definition. I'm aware of all the definitions. Questioning my grasp of "the definition of racist" is below me.

 

[Rainman05]

I'm not doing the "racism definition" thing. I prefer the sociological definition. I'm aware of all the definitions. Questioning my grasp of "the definition of racist" is below me.

That was not the panopticon part. The panopticon part was the part where you said this: "I'm just a gender specializing Phd candidate. I just have many grad level sociology, anthropology and such classes. I'm sure your definition of racism is the bee's knees."

He also, when feeling insecure, likes to flash the fact that he is doing some thesis or something important in his university and what a great person he is there... but in the forum, in the public arguments, he fails miserably to sustain his point except by saying that his awesomeness, as in, it is beyond us to grasp the awesomeness of him, is what makes him right. He doesn't even offer a twisted, warped argumentation that can make at least a lick of sense.

You are much better than that. I know you are because I have seen your discussions. Don't slip.

That is all.

I take no part in the stupidity of this thread because the OP is rather stupid and has successfully baited everybody like a class A troll.

 

[ecofarm]

That is all.

I felt the disengage deserved a reason, especially given the derogatory tone implying that I was uneducated. Given my level of education, particularly in sociology, I think my reponse to his "first, learn the definition" crap was justified.

I was responding to an insult, not proposing a point. I was not even defending a point, aside from my knowing the definition of racist.

 

[Henrin]

Hahaha, perhaps the black male vote represents US politics more accurately? You want fkd up? Try over 90% of a demographic voting for "one of their own". When white males vote over 95% for a candidate, you can spew that BS quoted above.

If any demographic is seriously out of touch, it's black males voting almost exclusively for homeboy.

That doesn't realize what he is supporting is only making his situation worse and some of it was designed for that purpose. There is nothing funnier than a group of people voting for what was designed to kick their ass.

 

[Medusa]

white men must have gone to the nearest polling places to vote

 

[AliHajiSheik]

That's their business. They obviously had reasons sufficient for themselves to vote Romney. But it's the kooky tea party making wildeyed racist claims.

I suspect those that voted for Romney had lots of money or fell prey to his ugly wedge issue rhetoric about immigrants and abortion.

Yes, it is their business. You had a very reasonable response in your first two sentences. Then you just had to continue on to nonsense. You really think that falling prey to one issue or another is only on one side? You continue to belittle the position of those of differing positions as though there are only two sides to any position. Yours and wildeyed reprehensible people. Sorry, but doing so doesn't make your positions virtuous.

 

[Rangergunn]

this just goes to show that the white race is no longer the majority there are no minorities or majorities in america anymore. Also in the election Romney won the popular vote. which in all honesty thats what should decide the president not this dumb electoral college. it gives 5 or 6 states all the power in the election. Ive lived in alabama and south carolina and its like my vote doesnt even count because my state doesnt have hardly any say in the election

 

[Peter Grimm]

What's wrong with those sissies out in Maine, Vermont, Massachusetts, Oregon, and Washington State?

Psshhh. They're breeding girly men out there.

I always here about how the women voted, how the Hispanics votes, Black population and even married or single women;
but never much about how the good ole white boy voted:
http://www.ijreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/enhanced-buzz-wide-1035-1352488120-4.jpeg


I'd have posted a pic but the machine said its too big.


Thought it was kind of an interesting map.

 

[Dwight]

Garland represents only a small clique of White people: spoiled, sheltered, suburban-born snobs.

“I grew up in a rural area…I got my first job – dragging bags of cow manure, horse feed and fertilizer around a farm store – when I was 12.”
:roll:

P.S. But even if you weren’t out to lunch, do you understand that the suburban-born whites is hardly a “small clique”. By 2000 half the population of the country were living in suburbs, it reached >%50 of the whites well before that. So such a “small clique” (because you equate all three of those together, right?) is millions strong, and headed for majority of voting age whites with a bullet.

 

[Peter Grimm]

It's not just in politics. This is a black/white dynamic that exists in our culture, and you should be aware of it.

For example, I support a football team who recently fired their black coach and hired a white coach. I have black friends who wanted the black coach to stay put come hell or high water, and are rooting for the white coach to fail. These same black friends only want us to recruit black quarterbacks.

Watch the crowd when a black boxer and a white boxer are in a match. 95% of the black audience will root for the black guy.

Consider OJ Simpson. Black America rooted for him even though he was clearly guilty.



Here is an interesting article on the subject: Are We Predisposed to Root For People of Our Own Race? | Clutch Magazine

Some of the comments:

LaNeshe - "I will admit that I usually root for the Black person in a situation (read: reality competition shows lol) at the beginning. Whether or not I continue to support them depends on their actions. The same goes for voting, sure, Barack Obama is black, but had he come to the table with the same ideals as say, Mitt Romney, I never would have voted for him."

JN - "I’m predisposed to root for people who are for my race. You could never pay me to vote for Herman Cain and I still think Tiger Woods and Lil’ Wayne are disgusting."

ChillyRoad - "I am guilty of it buts its only natural."

Nikesha - "I root for Black people first. That doesn’t mean I won’t root for someone of another race. But i do go with someone i can remotely identify with out of some sense of racial loyalty."

S - "How can you even seriously ask this question given our history?

Maybe, if White people weren’t such a$$h*les to people of color from the start, we wouldn’t feel the need to cheer people on because they share the same skin color

I understand why disenfranchised American “minorities” root for people who look like them and other minorities but why don’t overly-privileged White Americans root for the underdog? Because they are greedy and self-centered narcissists who have internalized racism"

Egypt - "I think rooting for people of your own race is a natural response, especially considering the long history of discrimination among people of color.

It’s nothing wrong with being proud of your own people. But I agree I can totally see where this may cause concern, especially when there’s black-white dynamic. I think it depends on the intention"

Hahaha, perhaps the black male vote represents US politics more accurately? You want fkd up? Try over 90% of a demographic voting for "one of their own". When white males vote over 95% for a candidate, you can spew that BS quoted above.

If any demographic is seriously out of touch, it's black males voting almost exclusively for homeboy.

 

[Dwight]

Also in the election Romney won the popular vote.

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[ecofarm]

Some of the comments:

LaNeshe... ChillyRoad... Nikesha

Hahaha




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[Dwight]

I'm not doing the "racism definition" thing. I prefer the sociological definition. I'm aware of all the definitions. Questioning my grasp of "the definition of racist" is below me.

Then you can please explain where the ‘privilege’ is, which I understand to be a requirement under sociological definitions? I don’t understand how that is suppose to fit into it.

P.S. I think it has the air of bigotry about it, which I didn’t like, that bespoke to a very inaccurate characterization.

 

[Aunt Spiker]

white men must have gone to the nearest polling places to vote

LOL - several times!

 

[ecofarm]

Then you can please explain where the ‘privilege’ is, which I understand to be a requirement under sociological definitions? I don’t understand how that is suppose to fit into it.

The sociological definition requires institutional discrimination. This gets rid of all the "black racists" "reverse racism" and other BS that is really plain old race-based prejudice and not at all representative of historical racism and its dibilitating impacts. It belittles actual racism to consider any derogatory remark to be racist, whether that is playing the race card or pretending that a black not liking whites is the same as institutional discrimination.

Divorcing the sociological and historical aspects of racism from the term only serves to de-legitimize the suffering caused by real racism.

 

[Dwight]

The sociological definition requires institutional discrimination. This gets rid of all the "black racists" "reverse racism" and other BS that is really plain old race-based prejudice and not at all representative of historical racism and its dibilitating impacts. It belittles actual racism to consider any derogatory remark to be racist, whether that is playing the race card or pretending that a black not liking whites is the same as institutional discrimination.

Divorcing the sociological and historical aspects of racism from the term only serves to de-legitimize the suffering caused by real racism.

Ah, good. Then I wasn’t missing anything…except what your opinion was on whether it qualified as such. :3oops: