How Putin Weaponized Wikileaks to Influence the Election

[rocket88]

Suspicion and innuendo.

That's all this report is.

The only real truth in this "report" is that there are literally thousands of hackers, both independent and government organized, around the world attempting to break into secured systems for all sorts of reasons.

Could this be a Putin effort? Maybe, but maybe not.

Let's assume for a moment it is Putin. That would not detract from the fact that the emails were real and showed factual skullduggery in the Democratic Party campaign process.

The bottom line is that it really doesn't matter the source when the information is TRUE!

Clearly the point of asserting such "suspicions" cited by the OP demonstrates a damage control effort to excuse and/or divert people from that critical fact.

Great to see that the Republican party finally likes Putin enough to defend him.

 

[apdst]

Great to see that the Republican party finally likes Putin enough to defend him.

Who's defending Putin?

 

[rocket88]

Blaming this on Putin is like Bill blaming the rape of Juanita Broderick on Hillary. Its like Bill blaming Kathleen Wileys husband for forcing him to grope her on the day of his funeral.

Seriously...its a lot of fun watching died in the wool partisans reacting to the news that the entire democrat primary was a multi-million dollar farce and a rigged game by blaming it on Putin, Trump, Fox News, etc.

Hey democrats...you just spent 18 months getting butt****ed by the DNC.

Run Bernie Run!

:lamo

Who forced you to try to make it about Bill Clinton?

 

[Risky Thicket]

If Trump got Putin to do his dirty work, you think we're better off not knowing that ...?

Context, my friend. Would it change damage done by the DNC and Hillary Clinton? It wouldn't. If the DNC and the Clinton campaign had not colluded and possibly stolen the nomination from Sanders Trump via Russia would not have had jack squat to post on Wikileaks. Right now, the issues are dishonesty and deception and maybe even legal violations of the law. Dishonesty and deception are and have been a major concern regarding Hillary. People DO NOT trust her. Hillary is not trustworthy.

Many suspected that the DNC was working to defeat Bernie and elect Hillary. The DNC and the Clinton Campaign accused Bernie supporters of being conspiracy theorists and worse. BAM! And then the emails were exposed and Bernie was proven correct. And Hillary, along with DWS, were proven to be dishonest and untrustworthy. Russia nor Trump had anything to do with the subterfuge perpetrated by the Hillary and the DNC.

Trump and Russia are perhaps connected but it is most certainly as separate issue. They did not cause Hillary to be dishonest and deceptive - again. Nor did they cause DWS and the DNC to violate the charter and by laws of the Democratic Party and perhaps even United States.

 

[Fishking]

Shouldn't this be in the Conspiracy Theory sub-forum? Thus far, there has been no proof provided that Russia had anything to do with it and the only people saying they did are coming from the DNC.

What We Know So Far About WikiLeaks' #DNCLeaks : snopes.com

Talking Points Memo editor Josh Marshall (7/23/16) released a rather paranoid rundown the day of the leaks on how Putin was conspiring with Trump (a fairly good debunking of which can be found here), soon after dismissing the substance of the leaks as Russian propaganda white noise. Manysoonfollowedsuit: The DNC leaks as Russian spy operation was the preferred talking point of the day, omitting or glossing over what the leaks actually entailed. The actual culpability of Russia for those leaks, it’s worth noting, is still unproven. The only three parties that have audited the hack are contractors for the US government, and the DNC’s initial story has since changed considerably. At first the DNC (and by extension their security firm CrowdStrike) said ”no financial, donor or personal information appears to have been accessed or taken,” but this later turned out not to be true at all. Six weeks since the hack was first revealed by the Washington Post(6/14/16), no one in the US government, including the FBI and White House (who have reportedly reviewed the situation in detail), have implicated or even suggested Russian involvement in the leak–neither on the record nor anonymously. Thus far, all suggestions to this effect have taken place outside the organs of the United States government — a common and deliberate conflation that even led to this correction in the Vox recap of the situation (7/23/16): Correction: I misread the Washington Post‘s story on last month’s DNC hack and misattributed the Russia link to the US government rather than independent security researchers.

 

[DaveFagan]

{Personal comment - I'm never eager to buy into conspiracy theories, but there's some evidence below by some professional organizations. That, and Putin had to be supportive of Trump's position that he might not support our NATO allies}

From DefenseOne.com: How Putin Weaponized Wikileaks to Influence the Election of an American President - Defense One

Evidence suggests that a Russian intelligence group was the source of the most recent Wikileaks intel dump, which was aimed to influence the U.S. election.

Close your eyes and imagine that a hacking group backed by Russian President Vladimir Putin broke into the email system of a major U.S. political party. The group stole thousands of sensitive messages and then published them through an obliging third party in a way that was strategically timed to influence the United States presidential election. Now open your eyes, because that’s what just happened.

...It’s the same group that hit the State Department, the White House, and the civilian email of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. The group’s modus operandi (a spearphishing attack that uploads a distinctive remote access tool on the target’s computer) is well known to cyber-security researchers.
...
Other security firms offered independent analysis and reached the same conclusion. The group Fidelis undertook their own investigation and found Crowdstrike to be correct.[/I]

Horse puckey. This goes back to Clinton's server not being secure. The DNC probably used Hillary's techs.

 

[VanceMack]

Who forced you to try to make it about Bill Clinton?

I didnt make it about Bill Clinton...I chose to use it as a comparative model. I figured it would be a fair comparison considering the Clinton's past history of abuse of women and blaming it on a vast right wing conspiracy. Its a rather telling pattern.

 

[Absentglare]

Exert or sell it?

Is there a difference ?

 

[Absentglare]

Context, my friend. Would it change damage done by the DNC and Hillary Clinton? It wouldn't. If the DNC and the Clinton campaign had not colluded and possibly stolen the nomination from Sanders Trump via Russia would not have had jack squat to post on Wikileaks. Right now, the issues are dishonesty and deception and maybe even legal violations of the law. Dishonesty and deception are and have been a major concern regarding Hillary. People DO NOT trust her. Hillary is not trustworthy.

Many suspected that the DNC was working to defeat Bernie and elect Hillary. The DNC and the Clinton Campaign accused Bernie supporters of being conspiracy theorists and worse. BAM! And then the emails were exposed and Bernie was proven correct. And Hillary, along with DWS, were proven to be dishonest and untrustworthy. Russia nor Trump had anything to do with the subterfuge perpetrated by the Hillary and the DNC.

Trump and Russia are perhaps connected but it is most certainly as separate issue. They did not cause Hillary to be dishonest and deceptive - again. Nor did they cause DWS and the DNC to violate the charter and by laws of the Democratic Party and perhaps even United States.

Whatever the DNC did wrong was going on with or without the Trump/Putin conspiracy.

Still, if it was an attack by a foreign government on one of our major political parties, that could be a national security risk with or without the DNC committing any crimes.

 

[JANFU]

Is there a difference ?

Your post, your clarification is what?

 

[Anthony60]

Cutting to the chase, the DNC is corrupt. Hillary is a corrupt liar. Quite simple.

 

[Glen Contrarian]

The Democrat party did this to themselves and you dont trust Debbie Wasserman-Schulz but you DO trust Hillary Clinton ?? WTH ??

I can argue about Clinton all day with you...but you're ignoring what is by far the most important point: WHY would Russia want to damage the Democrats' chances to win in November? Why? Might it have something to do with Trump saying he might not back up our NATO allies if they are invaded (presumably by Russia)?

 

[Glen Contrarian]

Only if you're a democrat. The rest of the world is more concerned with the corruption of the DNC.

Or, and BTW, Russia didn't damage the DNC. The DNC damaged the DNC.

Regardless of what you think of the DNC, you're ignoring what is by far the most important question: WHY did Russia try to damage the DNC's chances of winning in November? Does it have something to do with Trump's declaration that he might not go to the aid of other NATO nations? Whatever you may think of the DNC, you need to answer why it is that Russia apparently wants Trump to win.

 

[Fishking]

I can argue about Clinton all day with you...but you're ignoring what is by far the most important point: WHY would Russia want to damage the Democrats' chances to win in November? Why? Might it have something to do with Trump saying he might not back up our NATO allies if they are invaded (presumably by Russia)?

Why would Russia do it, indeed? So far there has been no proof submitted that Russia had any involvement. I'll wait until we get more proof than DNC, aka Clinton apologists, empty accusations.

What We Know So Far About WikiLeaks' #DNCLeaks : snopes.com

 

[Absentglare]

Your post, your clarification is what?

Money exerts influence, and we legalized the process.

 

[DelRap]

With the release of Hillary's emails and timing at which it was released may or may not hurt her presidential run. The scope of this was to put Trump ahead.

After said documents had been released, Trump may be in a better position as planned. Now that Russia has released those documents, they will be waiting for Trump to release some Intel.

Russia gets confirmed Intel and Trump gets a little closer to presidency.

Delred2

 

[Northern Light]

Just like Russia/Putin is saying thanks Donald for weakening NATO and removing support for the Ukraine from the DNC platform. One hand is washing the other. Isn't that sweet.

I dunno about that... all I know is that truth is truth and it's up to democratic countries to use that information wisely.

I'll never understand why people in democracies complain about information leaks when the leaks are of service to their informed democratic consent.

 

[iguanaman]

I dunno about that... all I know is that truth is truth and it's up to democratic countries to use that information wisely.

I'll never understand why people in democracies complain about information leaks when the leaks are of service to their informed democratic consent.

The leaks were not the problem to me as much as the source and the appearance of quid quo pro by Trump. It paints a truly frightening picture of 2 Narcissistic Psychopaths and nuclear armed oligarchs carving up the world for their benefit. Now there is fear for you.

Harvard Psychologist Explains Trump Is 'Dangerous' Because He's Literally a Narcissistic Psychopath - Counter Current News

 

[Northern Light]

The leaks were not the problem to me as much as the source and the appearance of quid quo pro by Trump. It paints a truly frightening picture of 2 Narcissistic Psychopaths and nuclear armed oligarchs carving up the world for their benefit. Now there is fear for you.

I understand why you're drawing that conclusion... but... honestly I don't think Trump is that interested in world domination, or smart enough for it.

At least we can agree that the truth of the leaks was a good thing. How the info gets used is quite another!

 

[iguanaman]

I understand why you're drawing that conclusion... but... honestly I don't think Trump is that interested in world domination, or smart enough for it.

At least we can agree that the truth of the leaks was a good thing. How the info gets used is quite another!

I just think he wants a Trump tower in Moscow but it may mean a reconstituting of the USSR and the US sharing super power status again with them. That is not very reassuring.

 

[Glen Contrarian]

Why would Russia do it, indeed? So far there has been no proof submitted that Russia had any involvement. I'll wait until we get more proof than DNC, aka Clinton apologists, empty accusations.

What We Know So Far About WikiLeaks' #DNCLeaks : snopes.com

The problem with the Snopes article is that it's addressing the e-mails themselves in depth...but it hardly even attempts to address the technical details of the hacking, the coding, the style and 'fingerprints' of the coding...which is why I linked to a site with a more technical explanation.

 

[DelRap]

A little something

https://guccifer2.wordpress.com

 

[fmw]

Who is claiming the leaks were not real? What is disturbing is the source of those links combined with Trumps actions in the last few weeks which favor Putin's interests. It stinks to high heaven of quid pro quo.

Not to me. There isn't even any evidence that the hacks were done by the Russian government. Bring some evidence and I'll change my mind.

 

[ChezC3]

What corruption ? Do you think that the DNC not allowed to exert political influence ?

Good, good.....you're following the playbook marvelously...

Deny til you die...check

Begin to change the context and then the narrative by offering an ambiguous statement that can be taken in any number of directions and wait for a bite....check

:lamo

Oh my, my, my....

:lamo

 

[Thoreau72]

With the release of Hillary's emails and timing at which it was released may or may not hurt her presidential run. The scope of this was to put Trump ahead.

After said documents had been released, Trump may be in a better position as planned. Now that Russia has released those documents, they will be waiting for Trump to release some Intel.

Russia gets confirmed Intel and Trump gets a little closer to presidency.

Delred2

It would be so cool if any of that speculation could be proved.