How does Trump still have support after praising Putin?

[PeacefulWarrior]

Hopefully this is where it ends. I think my grandfather hoped the same when Germany entered Poland.

No doubt the world felt the same when the US rolled into Iraq on the heels of Shock & Awe terror attacks.

 

[jnug]

Russian State TV this morning calling the missile that hit an apartment complex in Kyiv this morning a a "Ukraine missile".

Really??? Tell me Boris (this whole mess has reminded me of what we used to call what I now call Russia-cons or Russian propagandists back in the day) tell me, who is it that actually crossed the borders of a sovereign country, attacked it and brought its CRIMINAL WAR into the streets of urban environments? Tell me Boris, do you know who that might be?

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

tell me, who is it that actually crossed the borders of a sovereign country, attacked it and brought its CRIMINAL WAR into the streets of urban environments? Tell me Boris, do you know who that might be?

Yes, I know. That was the United States, and many other nations throughout history.
But mostly the United States, probably more phony unnecessary "wars" than any other nation in modern history.

 

[jnug]

Yes, I know. That was the United States, and many other nations throughout history.
But mostly the United States, probably more phony unnecessary "wars" than any other nation in modern history.

Throughout history??? What does that have to do with Ukraine or the missile that hit the apartment complex this morning?

 

[NuffSaid]

Trump and Tucker are currently molding American conservatives into Putin-lovers (if they weren't already).

At the CPAC convention, one of the speakers got the crowd to chant “Putin”.

What a bunch of anti-American traitors.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

Throughout history??? What does that have to do with Ukraine or the missile that hit the apartment complex this morning?

Well, you asked a question:

Tell me Boris (this whole mess has reminded me of what we used to call what I now call Russia-cons or Russian propagandists back in the day) tell me, who is it that actually crossed the borders of a sovereign country, attacked it and brought its CRIMINAL WAR into the streets of urban environments?

I answered it.

Its really starting to annoy me, watching Americans pretend to give a shit about people halfway around the world, and also pretend that they are the worlds Moral Authority and great saving hope.

REALLLLLLLY starting to make me nauseous right about now J.

Like: 'Bout ta VOMIT.

 

[poweRob]

Donald Trump is a quisling.

Look up the word.

Yeah that's the right word.

 

[poweRob]

What did Hitler ever do to us before WW2? What did Saddam Hussein ever do to us?

A burglar breaks into a house in your neighborhood. What did the burglar ever do to you?

That's a shockingly immoral and selfish view of the world.

Putin is a former KGB agent and tyrant who is trying to rebuild the Soviet Union. Putin is an enemy of freedom and democracy.

It's the line of questioning that Tucker Carlson has been throwing out repeatedly as Putin defense on Fox.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

The entire free world and all our allies are vociferously denouncing Putin's invasion. Not a single word denouncing Putin from Trump. Trump calls Putin smart, savvy, and genius but not a single negative adjective like tyrant, despot, or evil.

As Americans, surely we're united in our belief in freedom and democracy over Putin's authoritarian state. Opposition leaders are murdered or imprisoned in Putin's Russia. Putin is trying to reassemble the Soviet Union. The Soviet F-in Union and Trump is praising the former KGB agent.

I'm baffled that this man still has support.

There are STILL Branch Davidians who still think David Koresh was Jesus and they aren't sorry that he had sex with their dead kids.
I can't remember exactly how many survivors there are but it's something like fifty, and about forty of them still believe Koresh was God.
Authoritarianism functions the same as Scientology or The Moonies, or The People's Temple, cults...all of them.
Reality TV made Trump a GOD, you saw it, I saw it, we all saw it...they saw Trump as a god and "god" spoke and they believed every word that their new god said.
His show built him UP AS a god, and when "god" made noises like "All those other people hate you and I love you", his faithful loved him for it.
Simple as that, building a cult is SO EASY if you have the MONEY.

Most Americans outside of the New York area only know of Trump through reality TV and later, through the unbelievable amount of free publicity the news media gave him
during the runup to the elections in 2016.
That's not an accident.

 

[CaughtInThe]

There are STILL Branch Davidians who still think David Koresh was Jesus

Yeah, all trump had to do was repeat Rush and Fox and he became the Republican Jesus.

More popular than Reagan.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Putin is a former KGB agent and tyrant who is trying to rebuild the Soviet Union. Putin is an enemy of freedom and democracy.

To be more accurate, he's trying to use Soviet style military expansionist tactics, but to restore the old Imperial Russian Empire of the Czars.
Putin sees himself as the modern day resurrection, with him AS the new czar.

"Whoever does not miss the Soviet Union has no heart. Whoever wants it back has no brain."
(Vladimir Putin)

 

[jnug]

Well, you asked a question:



I answered it.

Its really starting to annoy me, watching Americans pretend to give a shit about people halfway around the world, and also pretend that they are the worlds Moral Authority and great saving hope.

REALLLLLLLY starting to make me nauseous right about now J.

Like: 'Bout ta VOMIT.

Moral Authority??? Its not a moral country in case you have not noticed. It never has been. So don't try to associate me with Moralists.

Morality has absolutely NOTHING to do with anything this country does as a country and it never has. It lives by ethical standards at BEST. Ethics do not quite make a Moral Standard. Even its Ethics can be questioned. More often than not what this country does as a country is based in Prudence and that is about the best you get from this country. Not quite as good as Prudence but also fundamental to what we do as a country is Pragmatism.....still not terrible but not as suggestive of decency as Ethics or Prudence. But actually we have devolved into Transactionalism which is in fact truly dangerous, truly worrisome WAY WAY worse than Pragmatism as a standard and headed in entirely the wrong direction.

Still and all if we ever took the time to get back to anything close to understanding what the Founders left us and functioning accordingly we would be MILES ahead of where we are right now. That goes for the political Left, the political Right, the political Center and anywhere else on the political spectrum you want to discuss.

 

[MAGAnificent]

This is such a tired, silly retort from folks who apparently can't think of anything else.
Has it occurred to you Trumpers that the rest of the rational world would love to not have to think about Trump ever again?

I suppose that leaves the ranting Trump hating libruls out of the rational world, huh?

But because he just can't shut his huge lying mouth, and simply retire to Immoral-Lago, we HAVE to deal with his idiocy?

Why should you or anyone else be so obsessed with what Trump says after leaving office. Can't get him out of your head, huh?

If that has never occurred to you folks, you must not have graduated from a topflight educational institution like Trump U

Well at least we did not attend some librul indoctrination center.

 

[Buckeyes85]

Same way that Neville Chamberlain's weakness only encouraged Hitler to step up his acts of aggression.

Your knowledge of history is extremely weak if you think that's a valid comparison.

 

[PIPEWRENCH]

Patriotism doesn't have perspectives, chief

You're either for America or against it in times of war

No you are mistaking patriotism for a party blind fool who cannot see anything but their own narrow minded view. Understanding the other countries view can save millions of lives or needlessly lead fools into war. Knowledge is power. Refusing to see the other side of a situation is clearly ignorance.

 

[PIPEWRENCH]

No doubt the world felt the same when the US rolled into Iraq on the heels of Shock & Awe terror attacks.

Sorry but I think removing the Butcher of Bagdad from power was the right move. Nation building and deciding the type of government for the people was not.

 

[Jay Falcon]

No you are mistaking patriotism for a party blind fool who cannot see anything but their own narrow minded view. Understanding the other countries view can save millions of lives or needlessly lead fools into war. Knowledge is power. Refusing to see the other side of a situation is clearly ignorance.

This from a Trump supporter.

I bet you weren't singing this tune when Bush invaded Afghanistan and Iraq.

The only reason you're now arguing in favor of "seeing the other side's perspective" is because Trump came out in support of Putin, calling him a "genius" for murdering thousands of innocent people and attacking a country that did nothing to warrant an invasion. It's the same reason why your ilk believes election fraud lies, hates Fauci, hate Romney, hates Col. Vindman, distrusts NATO, distrusts WHO, is against wearing masks...and the list goes on.

Sorry but I think removing the Butcher of Bagdad from power was the right move. Nation building and deciding the type of government for the people was not.

Do tell, why didn't you see things from Saddam's perspective? Wouldn't that have saved lies and avoided a needless war? Your hypocrisy is off the charts.

 

[pocket aces]

Same way that Neville Chamberlain's weakness only encouraged Hitler to step up his acts of aggression.

Another one that wants a war with Russia.

 

[Jay Falcon]

Your knowledge of history is extremely weak if you think that's a valid comparison.

What can you expect from a MAGA supporter?

 

[Mach]

What has Putin ever done to us?

Wow, pro Putin all the way!!
He helped elect Trump with his hack of the DNC...oh but he helped Republicans so I guess that's OK?

Putin is a terrible person on the world stage and how he treats his citizens, and here you are openly defending him. Just wow. Sounds like you got that from Tucker Carlson.
Ethics has do to with rules that apply to everyone. Watching someone murder someone else in front of you, you'd be looking at us and exclaiming "But what has that murderer done to ME personally!?

It's absurd that you promote such anti-humanity values. Or is this the new America Republicans envision??

 

[PIPEWRENCH]

This from a Trump supporter.

I bet you weren't singing this tune when Bush invaded Afghanistan and Iraq.

The only reason you're now arguing in favor of "seeing the other side's perspective" is because Trump came out in support of Putin, calling him a "genius" for murdering thousands of innocent people and attacking a country that did nothing to warrant an invasion. It's the same reason why your ilk believes election fraud lies, hates Fauci, hate Romney, hates Col. Vindman, distrusts NATO, distrusts WHO, is against wearing masks...and the list goes on.



Do tell, why didn't you see things from Saddam's perspective? Wouldn't that have saved lies and avoided a needless war? Your hypocrisy is off the charts.

I did. His perspective and idol was Hitler. He was in power thanks to stupid leadership in this country that supported him and the Bath party. Once again our intervening in other countries governing leads to us having to go in and clean up the mess we made. What amazes me is how the people of this country and our leaders could support such an evil tyrant. He was the ultimate terrorist terrorizing all the countries around him and even his own people. Saddam insane not only used gas against women and children of Iran but even on his own people. Talk about a terrorist. How may peopled did he need to kill before we stopped looking the other way and doing something about it. Thank God a real leader such as Bush finally took out the madman.

 

[Jay Falcon]

I did. His perspective and idol was Hitler. He was in power thanks to stupid leadership in this country that supported him and the Bath party. Once again our intervening in other countries governing leads to us having to go in and clean up the mess we made. What amazes me is how the people of this country and our leaders could support such an evil tyrant. He was the ultimate terrorist terrorizing all the countries around him and even his own people. Saddam insane not only used gas against women and children of Iran but even on his own people. Talk about a terrorist. How may peopled did he need to kill before we stopped looking the other way and doing something about it. Thank God a real leader such as Bush finally took out the madman.

Saddam was no more of a tyrant and murderer than Putin. In fact, a strong case could be made that Putin is much worse. But you now want us to "look at things from Putin's" perspective. Why? We all know why. It couldn't be any clearer.

 

[PIPEWRENCH]

Saddam was no more of a tyrant and murderer than Putin. In fact, a strong case could be made that Putin is much worse. But you now want us to "look at things from Putin's" perspective. Why? We all know why. It couldn't be any clearer.

I never said Putin was a good guy. I have been stating just the opposite since he was elected. He is a very dangerous leader driven to make Russia a superpower again at any cost. That should have been obvious for decades now. Putin believes he is serving the needs of his country and people. That makes him a driven and even more dangerous leader. He is a very strong and determined leader. Anyone who refuses to acknowledge that and will pay for their ignorance. Hillary crossed swords with him and he quietly sat back like a evil genius waiting for his opportunity to get even. When she ran for office he took his revenge. Only a fool would believe he was helping Trump. He would cut Trumps throat while smiling and shaking his hand. Put helps Putin and nobody else. Undermining Trump for political gain only allowed Putin to decide on this invasion. The problem is we need a leader to keep him in check not a senile party puppet.

 

[Buckeyes85]

I suppose that leaves the ranting Trump hating libruls out of the rational world, huh?

Why should you or anyone else be so obsessed with what Trump says after leaving office. Can't get him out of your head, huh?

Well at least we did not attend some librul indoctrination center.

That's a given. Librul indoctrination centers require a high school diploma and a decent ACT score.

Seriously, your retorts are so childlike that I feel I may be guilty of a crime against children each time I smack you down.

 

[Mach]

He would cut Trumps throat while smiling and shaking his hand. Put helps Putin and nobody else. Undermining Trump for political gain only allowed Putin to decide on this invasion. The problem is we need a leader to keep him in check not a senile party puppet.

Who do you think believes that nonsense?

The U.S. is the greatest superpower right now in the world (for now), and the idea that Putin helping Trump win wasn't "helping Trump", is absurd on its face, and laughable because in that he had an ally in the U.S. government at the highest level. You think Putin's so stupid he doesn't value that? *THAT* is what's crazy to suggest...

Trump couldn't keep shit in check, and sure as shit he praised Putin all throughout is presidency, he sided with Putin over U.S. intelligence on the world stage, he withheld military aid from Ukraine/Zelensky to try and get them to manufacture dirt on Hunter/Joe, and he's STILL praising Trump even out of office.