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The whole concept of "the one" is a load of romanticized crap. Marriage is hard work.

You don't find love, you build it. With effort from both parties.

partly you are right , with mutual devotion ,you may build and increase the love in a marriage ,even if it is not ideal one ,it may give you a true marriage.
 
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The whole concept of "the one" is a load of romanticized crap. Marriage is hard work.

You don't find love, you build it. With effort from both parties.


there must be something there first, to build on
i suspect the OP is looking to recognize what that undefinable essence might be
 
Have you ever considered that perhaps commitment was a sidelong glance, that went misinterpreted, and then defended?

Not love. Merely commitment.

And would experience of 'The One' leave you with any doubt?
 
Are you still looking for that permanent mate, Tigger??? Sigh. I remember the last time you went this route...but like now as it was then, what you seek doesn't exist.

I don't know about that, Enola. What I've found is pretty damn close to what I've been looking for, and for some reason with this one the small differences don't seem to be a concern for me. We've been seeing each other for almost three months now and it's probably been about the best three months of my adult life.

She's laying in my bed in the other room right now, getting a little more sleep before we have to be out the door for the day. A large part of me wants to just head back in there and join her, but unfortunately I have a few things that have to be done before she gets up. We've spent every weekend in the last month together and we are both learning to hate Monday mornings even more than usual.
 
For the myriad who have said that there is no such thing as "The One", or who do not believe that there is a way to determine if one's signifcant other is The/One of the One's; I thank you very much for your input. I'm not sure I agree with your estimations and opinions but I do thank you for the polite and insightful commentaries on this topic.
 
I don't know about that, Enola. What I've found is pretty damn close to what I've been looking for, and for some reason with this one the small differences don't seem to be a concern for me. We've been seeing each other for almost three months now and it's probably been about the best three months of my adult life.

She's laying in my bed in the other room right now, getting a little more sleep before we have to be out the door for the day. A large part of me wants to just head back in there and join her, but unfortunately I have a few things that have to be done before she gets up. We've spent every weekend in the last month together and we are both learning to hate Monday mornings even more than usual.

I'll offer a word of advice. You can take it or leave it.

Don't jump into things too quickly. Three months really isn't very long to get to know someone. At this point, you're still in the honeymoon period of your relationship. It can last for quite awhile. With my wife and I, we had been dating for close to a year before it ended. Once it's over, your relationship will change. That warm giddy feeling you get early in a relationship just at being together fades away, and you start to notice the little things that bother you more. The relationship becomes more work, but it also becomes more real. You trade the mutual infatuation that exists early in a relationship for a deeper love and respect. Not all relationships survive that transition though, and it's far better for them to end before you're married or engaged if it's going to happen. It's good that you're happy with this woman, but try to keep your head, and make sure you really know her and your relationship is mature before considering marriage.
 
I'll offer a word of advice. You can take it or leave it.

Thanks molten. We're not looking at jumping into anything permanent yet. We're trying to take it relatively slowly and not get ahead of ourselves. Who knows where it will end up going. We both know where we hope it leads, but only time and Fate will tell.
 
The whole concept of "the one" is a load of romanticized crap. Marriage is hard work.

You don't find love, you build it. With effort from both parties.

Yeah, this ^

When I fell in love with Gary, I was 19. He was the "one". Without a doubt he was the man I wanted to spend my life with. I adored him. There was nothing I wouldn't do for him and that hasn't changed in 29 years. Gary was real from the start. He didn't pretend to be something he wasn't. He wanted to show me his world and I wanted to see it. What did I know about camping or fishing or the view from the mountain top? I knew about clubs and dancing, dressing up and turning heads. We were two very, very different people but both willing to experience something else.

How did I know he was the one when I was 19? I didn't get bored with him. He was always in my thoughts. I didn't plan a day that didn't include him in it. I couldn't wait to see his face or hear his ideas. I always had fun when I was with him and he made me laugh like no-one else ever could.

After being together for a lifetime it's more of a trust that no matter what, we're gonna find our way through this. The commitment, the ties, the love is stronger now than I could have possibly known when I was 19. We honor our relationship and our individuality. We compromise. We don't sweat the small stuff and we laugh...a lot.

Our first year of marriage Gary and I were having a spat and I was brushing him off and I picked up the phone and he said, "I forbid you to use the phone".

I looked at him
He looked at me (with an expression of horror as if to say, did that just come out of my mouth?)
I started laughing
He started laughing
And there we were, rolling on the kitchen floor with tears streaming down our faces, laughing so hard we couldn't breath.



Knowing who the one is may be the easiest part. Building a lifetime together takes work, but you can have fun on the job :2razz:
 
This question is for all of the DP Members who are Engaged or Married......

How did you KNOW, for CERTAIN that your Husband or Wife was THE ONE?
I have discovered the one sure-fire way to know whether she's the right one: marry her. If you divorce, she's not the right one. If you're together 'til death, then you'll know .. well, you'll know unless you succumb first, then, of course, you won't really know, leaving her to know which of the two it was .. her, and maybe the homicide detectives ...

But, signatorially speaking ...
 
She's laying in my bed in the other room right now, getting a little more sleep before we have to be out the door for the day. A large part of me wants to just head back in there and join her, but unfortunately I have a few things that have to be done before she gets up. We've spent every weekend in the last month together and we are both learning to hate Monday mornings even more than usual.

How very "liberal" of you. :lol::mrgreen::2wave:

Perhaps the next step is spending 7 days a week together instead of just two?
 
I have discovered the one sure-fire way to know whether she's the right one: marry her. If you divorce, she's not the right one. If you're together 'til death, then you'll know .. well, you'll know unless you succumb first, then, of course, you won't really know, leaving her to know which of the two it was .. her, and maybe the homicide detectives ....

It's that divorce part that I'm trying to avoid, Ontologuy. In my mind this is a one-shot deal. If I make that commitment and it doesn't work out, I guarantee you there won't be another trip around the block. I got close once before and she broke it off before it got to the point of rings (though not by much). If I decide this one is "The One" and it doesn't work out, there won't be another attempt. I'm too old and stuck in my ways for that.
 
How very "liberal" of you. :lol::mrgreen::2wave:

Sarcasm doesn't look good on you, Dragonfly.

Perhaps the next step is spending 7 days a week together instead of just two?

Actually we're spending at least half the week together these days. The only day I don't see her at all is Tuesdays. I pick her up from a meeting on Wednesday nights and we hang out for a little while before I take her home. Then I pick her up on my way home from work on Thursday afternoon and she doesn't go back to her place until I drop her off on my way to work on Monday morning.
 
It's that divorce part that I'm trying to avoid, Ontologuy. In my mind this is a one-shot deal. If I make that commitment and it doesn't work out, I guarantee you there won't be another trip around the block. I got close once before and she broke it off before it got to the point of rings (though not by much). If I decide this one is "The One" and it doesn't work out, there won't be another attempt. I'm too old and stuck in my ways for that.
Yes, and that's the point of my previous post. Waiting until you have the perfect indicator means that you wait forever. The heart knows. But no matter what your heart knows, it cannot predict the future behavior of another, ever.

Simply ask yourself what do you want?

Then go with that answer.
 
Yes, and that's the point of my previous post. Waiting until you have the perfect indicator means that you wait forever. The heart knows. But no matter what your heart knows, it cannot predict the future behavior of another, ever.

My heart has never really been something I use as a guide terribly often. I tend to find that hearts make silly, stupid mistakes based on emotion rather than more reasoned, logical, and well-considered decisions. That's part of the reason I'm in this quandry to begin with.

Simply ask yourself what do you want? Then go with that answer.

Life is not about what one WANTS. Life is about what one SHOULD DO. Always has been and always will be. That's part of the reason I'm in this quandry.
 
Life is not about what one WANTS. Life is about what one SHOULD DO. Always has been and always will be. That's part of the reason I'm in this quandry.

Wait........what?

What one "should do"?

Where does that come from?
 
Wait........what? What one "should do"? Where does that come from?

It comes from Tradition, Society, Morality, and the Values that should be taught to every single person in their youth.
 
i suspect the OP is looking to recognize what that undefinable essence might be

I know what the OP really wants: an excuse for believing he has been victimized by life. I don't see any point in encouraging such nonsense by entertaining fairy tale renditions of life that don't actually exist.

My point is that if he truly wants to be happy and get all that he wants in life, he's got to put forth some effort instead of simply waiting for life to happen and bemoaning his plight in life simply because that which will never happen actually had the gall to not happen.

Marriage isn't something that lazy people should endeavor upon. It's hard work. It's not a matter of saying, "Right, she's the one for me. Married. That's that done, happily-ever-after and all that. Let's have some pudding."

It's called a commitment for a reason. People don't need to be committed to sticking with **** that's easy.

It's the hard **** that requires commitment. A real marriage involves getting to that point where you think "****, everything would be so much easier if the two of us just ****ed off and did our own things and called it a day on this whole marriage thing" and then saying "Nah, **** the easy route. Let's make this work."

If people really want to know when they have found a person that they can marry, then they have to ask themselves "Am I willing to put forth extreme effort in order to be with this person for the rest of my life?" and then they have to understand the other person enough to know if he/she is willing to do the same. That's not something you simply "come to realize". That's a process. It may be a faster process for some than others, but it's always a process. At least if one wants to have a good marriage. Because no marriage can exist that does not hit that point where it would be easier to give up than move on. None. The only reason people stay together is because they truly are committed to each other. They've both agreed that even when it is easier to just give up, they won't.

It's tough. That's why so many marriages fail. But no marriage will work if one partner's commitment to themselves is greater than their commitment to their spouse. Both spouses have to be more committed to each other than they are to themselves for it to work. Any other combination will not work. It will either end in divorce or it will be a miserable marriage for one if not both partners.

The OP has made it quite clear in the past that he is definitely not willing to become more committed to another human being than he is to himself. He wants "the one" because "the one" in his mind would be more of a possession than a human being. Someone who is fully committed to him while he can avoid putting forth any effort at all. He doesn't want a relationship, he wants a puppy that can walk and feed itself (but only after it has seen to his needs first).

That way, when that which would never happen actually has the audacity to go ahead and not happen, he can pretend that he's a victim of a world that has lost it's morals rather than admitting he is the true architect of his own unhappiness.

Basically, my previous post was simply a very succinct way of pointing out that he's never going to get what he wants because he doesn't want to have to work for it. He believes it's entirely the woman's responsibility to put the effort into making him happy and that this effort alone should be enough to provide for her happiness.
 
The OP has made it quite clear in the past that he is definitely not willing to become more committed to another human being than he is to himself. He wants "the one" because "the one" in his mind would be more of a possession than a human being. Someone who is fully committed to him while he can avoid putting forth any effort at all. He doesn't want a relationship, he wants a puppy that can walk and feed itself (but only after it has seen to his needs first).

No, but it's not worth actually explaining it again since it's not going to get through that thick skull of yours.
 
It comes from Tradition, Society, Morality, and the Values that should be taught to every single person in their youth.

Are you actually living life if you are not doing things because you want to do them?

Especially when it comes to love, relationships, and commitments to those things?
 
Are you actually living life if you are not doing things because you want to do them?

Especially when it comes to love, relationships, and commitments to those things?

Life isn't about what we WANT to do. It's about what we SHOULD do. It's a test of the Soul. Nothing more and nothing less. The reward for passing that test is not in this world, but in the next. Love, Fun, Happiness, etc... are only worthwhile if they can be accomplished inside the boundaries of what one SHOULD do, not what one wants to do.
 
Life isn't about what we WANT to do. It's about what we SHOULD do. It's a test of the Soul. Nothing more and nothing less. The reward for passing that test is not in this world, but in the next. Love, Fun, Happiness, etc... are only worthwhile if they can be accomplished inside the boundaries of what one SHOULD do, not what one wants to do.

Doesn't sound like freedom to me. Have you started a philosophy thread on this line of thinking? If not, your really need to.

Why can't life be about what we want? What's wrong with want?
 
Doesn't sound like freedom to me. Have you started a philosophy thread on this line of thinking? If not, your really need to. Why can't life be about what we want? What's wrong with want?

I never said it had anything to do with Freedom. Then again I'm an Authoritarian, so Freedom is a Privilege, not a Right in my mind.

I have not started a thread about this because I really don't care what anyone else's viewpoint on the topic is.

Life is a test. A test of the soul. Nothing more. It's about whether the soul has learned its lessons yet, or if it needs more time to learn.
 
No, but it's not worth actually explaining it again since it's not going to get through that thick skull of yours.

As I said right off the bat, I don't see the point of entertaining fairy tale renditions of reality. You've made it quite clear what you want, I've just put it into more realistic terms.
 
The idea of "the one" and "spending your life" with someone is based on social queues of compatibility and of respect and a strong like/love of one another.

A healthy sex life is very important in a romantic relationship, but conversation and general company far exceed time spent in the bedroom.

If sex dominates thinking over general sharing and conversation and time spent together, wait. Passion is powerful, but it in itself does not lead to a worthwhile relationship that will last.

Also, love is a stage of great fondness and dependence. This does not happen immediately - for most. But most importantly, you "know" someone is right for you when the concept of gambling doesn't even enter your mind.

We don't know the future and so all we can know is now. The best determiner of rightness is time. This is why I'd suggest dating for a longer period of time than a shorter one. Time allows for a trending of feelings, which will either reveal an increase, leveling off, or decrease in thoughts and feelings of compatibility and respect and like/love.

There is no need, nor is it practical, to rush into forever.
 
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