How can Trump say he's doing his best to fight Covid-19?

[BrotherFease]

Have you considered actually looking at the outcomes from the rally?

Oklahoma deaths registered yesterday due to Covid were 0. Deaths in Oklahoma from 9-3-2020 due to Covid is 0.

Your hysteria seems sincere, but it is not founded in actual, real world facts.

COVID-19 | Oklahoma State Department of Health |

3 Weeks After Trump'''s Rally, Oklahoma Sees Record COVID-19 Cases | Time

The Oklahoma rally happened in June, not in September. Per Time article above, Oklahoma experienced record-levels of Covid19 cases.

 

[Ikari]

Going through life blinded by ignorance must be difficult for you.

Well since I'm not a Cultist, I'm seeing things quite clearly.

 

[Conservative]

This to me is an election issue. Trump has said he's doing everything in his power to stop the spread of Covid-19, but what he's done over the past three months, shows counter.

Case in points:

1. He held an indoor Oklahoma rally without any guidance for social distancing or mask wearing. Herman Cain contracted Covid-19 after attending the rally.
2. His South Dakota rally had no mandates for masks or social distancing.
3. During his convention speech, nobody in the audience was social distancing or wearing a mask.
4. He defied both the Nevada orders and CDC guidelines, when he had an indoor rally with no mask or social distancing.

Please defend Trump here Trump supporters. I really don't get it. Why does Trump claim he wants to protect Americans, but hold rallies and show lack of interest to basic health guidelines?

Help me out here. If Trump cared about public health, we wouldn't be seeing him having a reckless regard to public safety? As a registered Republican, this is one of my many reserves against Trump. I deserve an intelligent response. And no, I don't want to hear what-about-isms.

Here continues to be the problem, Trump has zero authority over state and local responses and issues, his only response can be promoting the creation of a vaccine and apparently that is ongoing, His 2 billion dollar potential grant to Pfizer is a positive as is the following. Please tell us exactly what Trump's authority is over the states?

Trump in '''Fox & Friends''' interview claims coronavirus vaccine coming ‘in a matter of weeks’ | Fox News

 

[americanwoman]

Yeah, the whole 'breaking Nevada state law to have an indoor campaign rally' thing really just screams "be safe!!!!"

:rofl

and "law and order" too.

 

[Fred C Dobbs II]

Donald Trump lying isn’t a surprise at this point. It’s sad that we have a president that is a habitual self-serving liar But it isn’t surprising seeing him for four years.

This is indeed an election issue. How can anyone trust a president whose words are so at odds with the truth and who sets a bad example, by encouraging supporters to ignore medical advice?

Worse, when asked about his rallies ignoring sound medical advice, he said, ‘I’m up here far away from everyone else, so it’s safe’ — which means he doesn’t give a damn about the audience that is unmasked and tightly seated.

Those who attended these rallies knew the risks and, as free people, went anyway. The medical advice has changed so often during this period, often with varying rules and laws in different States, that more and more people have just stopped paying attention.

 

[MTAtech]

Those who attended these rallies knew the risks and, as free people, went anyway. The medical advice has changed so often during this period, often with varying rules and laws in different States, that more and more people have just stopped paying attention.

Did the people who will run into thee people on their way back home know and accept the risk?
Did these people's relative, not in attendance, accept the risk?

The medical advice is conclusive, wearing masks and social distancing reduces the virus spread. That's why states that resisted rules and had large outbreaks came to their senses.

Let's face it, we have a president who doesn't like rules applied to him. He was like that as a private citizen. A man died in Trump Tower in a fire in 2018 because Trump fought codes requiring sprinklers. Now we see how Trump acts as president. He doesn't care about people that are collateral damage in furtherance of HIS objective.

 

[ataraxia]

This to me is an election issue. Trump has said he's doing everything in his power to stop the spread of Covid-19, but what he's done over the past three months, shows counter.

Case in points:

1. He held an indoor Oklahoma rally without any guidance for social distancing or mask wearing. Herman Cain contracted Covid-19 after attending the rally.
2. His South Dakota rally had no mandates for masks or social distancing.
3. During his convention speech, nobody in the audience was social distancing or wearing a mask.
4. He defied both the Nevada orders and CDC guidelines, when he had an indoor rally with no mask or social distancing.

Please defend Trump here Trump supporters. I really don't get it. Why does Trump claim he wants to protect Americans, but hold rallies and show lack of interest to basic health guidelines?

Help me out here. If Trump cared about public health, we wouldn't be seeing him having a reckless regard to public safety? As a registered Republican, this is one of my many reserves against Trump. I deserve an intelligent response. And no, I don't want to hear what-about-isms.

You will not understand this issue trying to argue rationally on policies. Ultimately, you can only understand this Trump phenomenon through the lens of the identity politics of older, white, mostly Christian people feeling under siege and lashing out. It is about a loss of cultural and racial hegemony. That’s why more than being interested in debating topics, you will find they just want to “own the Libs”. The cruelty IS the point. There is no other point. Stop trying to figure it out. It’s not that hard. There is nothing else to figure out.

 

[BrotherFease]

Here continues to be the problem, Trump has zero authority over state and local responses and issues, his only response can be promoting the creation of a vaccine and apparently that is ongoing, His 2 billion dollar potential grant to Pfizer is a positive as is the following. Please tell us exactly what Trump's authority is over the states?

Trump in '''Fox & Friends''' interview claims coronavirus vaccine coming ‘in a matter of weeks’ | Fox News

Why couldn't Trump have a mask mandate and have the crowd spread out more? For the Nevada rally, he literally ignored CDC and state guidelines for large crowds. We saw the Chiefs and Texans game with a stadium at 25% capacity and obeying 6 feet rules.

As I pointed out here, I do have a problem with BLM protests not following the rules as well.

I do hope a vaccine is coming soon. That would make me more sympathetic to Trump's "I am doing all what I can narrative".

 

[Eatomus]

Do not lose heart fellow Bidenites !
Just because our hopes for mass viral death of Trumpsters is diminishing by the day does not mean there are not more efficient ways to rid ourselves of the Nazi's
And killing them publicly this way is very helpful in creating further alienation between the ones we are not able kill and their Orange man leader .
LA deputies shot: Deputies in stable condition after being critically wounded in Compton; search continues for gunman - ABC7 Los Angeles

 

[W_Heisenberg]

Because mask wearing is not necessarily the key to preventing COVID infections.

More and more research is now coming out indicating that one of the most common ways to contract COVID may be from using silverware at restaurants which is not properly disinfected.

People listen to liberals drill one line over and over, and don't stop to think for themselves. They thought they would be protected from COVID because they wore a mask constantly, and guess what? They got it anyway. From using dinnerware that wasn't properly cleaned.

Adults With COVID-19 Twice As Likely To Have Eaten At Restaurants, CDC Study Finds : Coronavirus Live Updates : NPR

Democrats, literally, could have caused so many deaths, convincing people that as long as they were wearing a mask, they wouldn't contract the disease.

Hermain Cain contracted COVID after a member of BLM exposed him to the virus on purpose. They are willing to shoot cops, they are willing to laugh at people shooting cops, they are willing to stab black conservative journalists, and they are willing to sacrifice conservative black lives in the name of their socialist cause.

Why did the president knowingly mislead America about the coronavirus threat?

 

[W_Heisenberg]

Those who attended these rallies knew the risks and, as free people, went anyway. The medical advice has changed so often during this period, often with varying rules and laws in different States, that more and more people have just stopped paying attention.

Why did the president knowingly mislead America about the coronavirus threat?

 

[Patriotic Voter]

Candidates win primaries because of their stance on political issues as well as their personalities.
I like Trump because I know he is going to get the country through this pandemic and revive the economy.
I have no confidence in Biden being able to do that.
Political issues and policies mean a lot to me. And so far, Biden's political position on different issues really worry me.

If you are educated about Donald Trump, you know he will do everything in his power to cause more COVID-19 cases and deaths.

 

[ReubenSherr]

If you are educated about Donald Trump, you know he will do everything in his power to cause more COVID-19 cases and deaths.

This statement is just as much of a "Conspiracy Theory" as my statement that a BLM member exposed Herman Cain to the virus purposely, in order to politically hurt Trump. Given the fact that BLM members have stabbed conservative black journalists, and have instigated, encouraged, and laughed at members wounding and killing police officers. And that left wing groups planted protestors at Trump rallies in 2016.

Let's remember BTW that the United Kingdom has 0.85% of the world's population, and 4.5% of the world's deaths.

The United States has 4.2% of the world's population, and 21% of the world's deaths.

The U. K.'s ratio is 5.29 to 1, ours is 5 to 1.

So if liberals are going to imply that Trump is guilty of homicidal negligence, they'd better be ready to tell the Guardian that Boris Johnson is guilty of homicidal negligence as well.

 

[ReubenSherr]

Why did the president knowingly mislead America about the coronavirus threat?

In order to prevent panic.

Which is exactly what would have happened if Pelosi had been in charge.

Throwing up her hands in the air, and stating "It's in God's hands."

The medical guidance he was giving the country, during the initial weeks of the pandemic, matched Fauci's guidance (prior to HCQ), and you all consider his name synonymous with the word "expert."

Fauci did not recommend that the country shut down immediately. And remember, Fauci is the expert.

 

[jaypatriot]

Your beating an old dog there mate. Referring to reality reality tv. I think you might be 5 years behind the times mate.

Veteran Trump haters need to grasp at straws wherever they can find them.
Some are more desperate than others.

 

[jaypatriot]

Why do you have that confidence? It cannot be based on performance, he has bungled handing the Pandemic since day one and he did nothing more than ride the economy that was already in place when he got elected.

Trump is not responsible for the pandemic. He is not responsible for 200,000 deaths from Covid.
He is not responsible for the recession we are now in.
He was leading the country during February when the economy was strong.
And it will be strong again under his leadership.
I don't have that level of confidence in anything Biden is doing.
At least with Trump there is evidence the country can be strong again.

 

[jaypatriot]

So winning an election is more important to him than public safety?

I am not concerned so much about public safety as I am with millions of people staying home and not working.
Of course he wants to win. Only a loser would not want to be president for another four years.
Cases and death rates are going down.
Trump can't change that. Only governors are responsible for the welfare of their own citizens.
Pretty soon you are going to be tired of blaming Trump for everything.

 

[Bullseye]

This to me is an election issue. Trump has said he's doing everything in his power to stop the spread of Covid-19, but what he's done over the past three months, shows counter.

Case in points:

1. He held an indoor Oklahoma rally without any guidance for social distancing or mask wearing. Herman Cain contracted Covid-19 after attending the rally.
2. His South Dakota rally had no mandates for masks or social distancing.
3. During his convention speech, nobody in the audience was social distancing or wearing a mask.
4. He defied both the Nevada orders and CDC guidelines, when he had an indoor rally with no mask or social distancing.

Please defend Trump here Trump supporters. I really don't get it. Why does Trump claim he wants to protect Americans, but hold rallies and show lack of interest to basic health guidelines?

Help me out here. If Trump cared about public health, we wouldn't be seeing him having a reckless regard to public safety? As a registered Republican, this is one of my many reserves against Trump. I deserve an intelligent response. And no, I don't want to hear what-about-isms.

If beach goers and party animals and rioters can ignore the rules why can Trumpsters? :lamo

 

[jaypatriot]

I'm not there, but the cameras are.

There is no inherent free-will right to endanger other people. If you disagree, how about I drink a half bottle of Jack Daniels and drive around your neighborhood just when your kids get out of school? I'm just exercising my free will. Why be concerned?

There are laws against drinking and driving recklessly.
Show me the law against meeting at a rally in a state that does not have laws to prevent meeting for a political rally.
The governor sets guidelines in each state. And different municipalities have laws against illegal gatherings.
You do understand that, don't you?
Why aren't we seeing Trump rallies in CA, OR, or WA?

 

[jaypatriot]

I get that it is hard to defend Trump, but you seem to be in a position where you have to defend why can't hold rallies and follow the rules. Look, I would say the same thing about the BLM protests violating CDC guidelines as well.

Tell us brother,
In those states where Trump is holding his rallies, are there laws against not wearing masks in a crowd?

If you think there are, then why aren't those attending those rallies being cited or arrested for breaking the law?

 

[jaypatriot]

And your opinions are indefensible. Donald Trump is guilty of neglect of this virus. His own words prove that.

You aren't going to vote for him anyway, so what is your concern. If he started wearing a mask at his rallies, would you change and vote for him?
And where is Trump violating any law by holding his rallies?

 

[BrotherFease]

I am not concerned so much about public safety as I am with millions of people staying home and not working.
Of course he wants to win. Only a loser would not want to be president for another four years.
Cases and death rates are going down.
Trump can't change that. Only governors are responsible for the welfare of their own citizens.
Pretty soon you are going to be tired of blaming Trump for everything.

You're going off into a different matter. I am talking about holding RALLIES without adhering to social distancing and mask-wearing. That's my only point. Your point seems to be that he is disobeying safety because he wants to win. I believe that's a terrible reasoning.

Since when, do I ever blame Trump for everything?

I am having problems going along with Trump and his supporters narratives, when they don't make any logical sense.

 

[jaypatriot]

In Maine, 65 people attended a wedding in August. Someone had Covid. Attendees came from around the state, which is typical of weddings. 176 cases have spread across the state from that one carrier. 5 have died, four at a nursing home where it caused an outbreak (an attendee works there), and there was an 80 person outbreak at the York County jail from a wedding attendee who made a visit there. There have been scores more cases around the state.

That's just one example of how this bug gets around. People who don't take precautions in these times are walking time bombs, and it's not fair to everyone else.

You wrote: "That's just one example of how this bug gets around. People who don't take precautions in these times are walking time bombs, and it's not fair to everyone else. "

Then I would suggest you continue to wear your mask and only frequent those places where masks are required.
Avoid those people whom you think are unfair. That is your choice.

 

[Conservative]

Why couldn't Trump have a mask mandate and have the crowd spread out more? For the Nevada rally, he literally ignored CDC and state guidelines for large crowds. We saw the Chiefs and Texans game with a stadium at 25% capacity and obeying 6 feet rules.

As I pointed out here, I do have a problem with BLM protests not following the rules as well.

I do hope a vaccine is coming soon. That would make me more sympathetic to Trump's "I am doing all what I can narrative".

What good is a mandate that isn't enforceable by the federal gov't, you want federal troops in the streets? Who is going to enforce any federal mandate, state and local officials who won't even enforce ICE and immigration laws?

 

[BrotherFease]

Tell us brother,
In those states where Trump is holding his rallies, are there laws against not wearing masks in a crowd?

If you think there are, then why aren't those attending those rallies being cited or arrested for breaking the law?

In Nevada he disobeyed the law.

Why was there no social distancing and mask mandates at his rallies? This is a direct contradiction on what health experts he employs are telling him.