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Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem transported by ambulance to DC-area hospital, sources say

Okay. That means what exactly? Even if you had said such things at some time in the past, you still come down on the side of the secret immigration police, and still characterize illegal immigrants as a drain on society when they are not.

I am not crying, Bodi. I just do no think you actually value the things you claim to value, or actually look down on the laughing at the misfortune of others. I think you are rankled that we are jeering at the misfortune of someone you are well-disposed towards, i.e., Donald Trump's chief immigration enforcement officer since you hold illegal immigrants in contempt. I am pretty sure if I jeered at the misfortune of someone you did not care about, like some random Democratic politician, you would have not commented at all. Hence, fake sanctimony.

Like when you retorted at @Jetboogieman
You use morally charged and morally-condemnatory language against us for our crowing over Kristi Noem's momentary health scare. You can either clutch your pearls and shake an admonishing finger at us like a proper school-marm on the basis of violating some universal moral code, or put on your shades and flick your cigarette and roar off into the sunset on your Harley because you are just too cool and post-moral for the rest of us screaming, blue-haired Social Justice Warriors crying about how we are so upset over our rights being trampled on.

But you cannot do both with real consistency. If you mean it with sincerity just comes off as weirdly schizo. But it reads more as reactionary trolling.

(y) There's an entire thread he started where all he does thru the whole thing is accuse ⬇️ people who wont condemn poor women for having kids/not having abortions:

Why do you hate children though... you keep dodging that one.

You want kids to be born into poverty. Why?

You want kids to be born into gangs. Why?

You want kids to be born into drug life-styles. Why?
 
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They aren’t required to have any warrants much of the time. They cannot produce what they don’t have.

Anyway, if anyone can point to instances of people pretending to be ICE agents and rounding innocent people up for no apparent reason at all, you’re free to do so at any time.

Otherwise, this act is just a lot of fake hysterical bullshit posts.

As usual, you miss the point.

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As usual, you miss the point.

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Incorrect. Your point was simply full of inaccurate premises. Make better arguments that are factual at their bases instead of the nonsense that you did above.

And relying on ad hominem instead of challenging any of my accurate statements is another indication of a tendency to emphasize irrationality over rational discourse. Do better.
 
They aren’t required to have any warrants much of the time. They cannot produce what they don’t have.

Anyway, if anyone can point to instances of people pretending to be ICE agents and rounding innocent people up for no apparent reason at all, you’re free to do so at any time.

Otherwise, this act is just a lot of fake hysterical bullshit posts.

You mean like this?

Multiple ICE impersonation arrests made during nationwide immigration crackdown​

 
Link please. I don't pay much attention to what far right Republican Mike Lee says but whatever he said is a whataboutism deflection on your part. That much I do know.

Theories About the Patriot Front


Utah Senator Mike Lee said after the weekend: "I've never heard of this group. Any chance this is a false flag operation?

"I'd love to know—does anyone out there know anyone who is part of this group? Has anyone ever heard of it?"

He went on to question the group's uniformity, saying it "hardly has the feel of a grassroots, patriotic group."


Looks like I'm not the only one who is skeptical. However, let me just say this, I condemn any type of Neo-Nazi group. I guess Nashville thought it was okay to give them a permit to protest. Even Neo-Nazis have first amendment rights.
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Liz, after she discovered Mike Lee is calling for an investigation of the J6 committee. :ROFLMAO:
I look forward to Senate Republican lawmakers, Mike Lee of Utah, John Kennedy of Louisiana, Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, Tom Cotton of Arkansas and Ted Cruz of Texas take their bogus claims apart with glee.

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You mean like this?

Multiple ICE impersonation arrests made during nationwide immigration crackdown​


No, not like this. Here's what I said:

Anyway, if anyone can point to instances of people pretending to be ICE agents and rounding innocent people up for no apparent reason at all, you’re free to do so at any time.

A group of racist jackasses impersonating LEO and "pulling someone over" so they can harass them is not "rounding innocent people up." As I stated earlier in the thread multiple times, one way you can tell if someone is a legitimate LEO is that they will take people into custody. Scammers and fakers like this don't cuff people and take them into custody, because why would they? Their motivation is to shake people down for money or do what the jackasses in your article did--pull people over to harass and mock them. If fakers went through with actually taking people into "custody," what the hell would they do with them at that point?

Another thing I stated before is that scammers and fakers get caught very quickly, which is why we don't have a massive problem with criminals impersonating officers across the country. It works better in movies than in real life because.....shocker of all shockers.....people can usually tell pretty quickly is someone is not a legitimate LEO. Not to mention law enforcement agencies do a ton of things to monitor their own people so they know when someone isn't legitimate the moment a call/complaint comes in.

In a nutshell, I was asked how I could tell that LEO in a photo were real, and my response then was "because they're taking someone into custody." That point still stands. I never made the argument that people don't try to impersonate LEO, because of course it happens. But you guys pretending like there's some massive problem with fake ICE agents going around the country and taking people into custody was and remains to be a hysterical, bullshit, and ultimately FALSE claim, period. End of story.
 
Absolutely! And yes, some of the comments are disgusting (but did not surprise me). Cannot imagine ever saying such horrible things. It’s pathetic and says much more about them.
You just gleefully support others who do shitty things.
 
No, not like this. Here's what I said:



A group of racist jackasses impersonating LEO and "pulling someone over" so they can harass them is not "rounding innocent people up." As I stated earlier in the thread multiple times, one way you can tell if someone is a legitimate LEO is that they will take people into custody. Scammers and fakers like this don't cuff people and take them into custody, because why would they? Their motivation is to shake people down for money or do what the jackasses in your article did--pull people over to harass and mock them. If fakers went through with actually taking people into "custody," what the hell would they do with them at that point?

Another thing I stated before is that scammers and fakers get caught very quickly, which is why we don't have a massive problem with criminals impersonating officers across the country. It works better in movies than in real life because.....shocker of all shockers.....people can usually tell pretty quickly is someone is not a legitimate LEO. Not to mention law enforcement agencies do a ton of things to monitor their own people so they know when someone isn't legitimate the moment a call/complaint comes in.

In a nutshell, I was asked how I could tell that LEO in a photo were real, and my response then was "because they're taking someone into custody." That point still stands. I never made the argument that people don't try to impersonate LEO, because of course it happens. But you guys pretending like there's some massive problem with fake ICE agents going around the country and taking people into custody was and remains to be a hysterical, bullshit, and ultimately FALSE claim, period. End of story.
Ok.

Here in California we have a law that permits a motorist lit up by law enforcement to turn on their hazards and proceed to the next public place like a gas station before pulling over.

Know why?

Because some asshole had made a fake highway control car and uniform and was pulling women over, directing them off the road.

And raping them.
 
Yes it is. Enjoying the suffering of others is most definitely a psychopathic trait. It’s also a sadistic trait.
Only when it’s all others. Karma is a bitch. Seeing it at work is educational as to how someone should or should not behave.

If a rapist gets caught in the act and beaten to death I will cheer.
 
As usual, you miss the point.

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Their conditioning is so thorough and so heavily based on the human resistance to admitting to themselves they have been fooled they simply cannot actually engage on any topic as doing so might force them to see it.

The longer this goes on the more I think how MAGA came into being will not just be its own chapter in history books but an entire textbook.
 
Only when it’s all others.

You just made this up. There is no purity test for the existence of psychopathy and psychopathic traits.

The ability to switch empathy off and experience sadistic pleasure from the suffering of others is one of the hallmark characteristics of conditions like psychopathy and malignant narcissism.

It's inherently abnormal and a mental defect to experience joy or pleasure when another human is suffering, and even full-blown psychopaths don't experience that 100% of the time with every person on the planet.

Karma is a bitch. Seeing it at work is educational as to how someone should or should not behave.

Can you define any limiting principles within this construct of thought, or do you only throttle it based on what you feel?

If a rapist gets caught in the act and beaten to death I will cheer.

Vigilantism is also linked with psychopathy and sociopathy, by definition.

What do you think the characterizations of Dexter, Travis Bickle, V, and, hell, even Batman, among other vigilante characters is entirely based on? The entire concept of a vigilante character is that they cross the line between good and evil constantly and have sociopathic traits.
 
Their conditioning is so thorough and so heavily based on the human resistance to admitting to themselves they have been fooled they simply cannot actually engage on any topic as doing so might force them to see it.

The longer this goes on the more I think how MAGA came into being will not just be its own chapter in history books but an entire textbook.

Why are you passively aggressively lashing out instead of proving my points wrong?
 
Ok.

Here in California we have a law that permits a motorist lit up by law enforcement to turn on their hazards and proceed to the next public place like a gas station before pulling over.

Know why?

Because some asshole had made a fake highway control car and uniform and was pulling women over, directing them off the road.

And raping them.

And as I already said multiple times, nobody is claiming that impersonating LEO doesn't happen. And nobody is suggesting that there shouldn't be laws against it.

Is your take the ICE shouldn't do their job because someone might try to impersonate them? If that's not your position, then what exactly is your point and reason in the context of this discussion for even bringing up the crime of impersonating a LEO?
 
You just made this up. There is no purity test for the existence of psychopathy and psychopathic traits.

The ability to switch empathy off and experience sadistic pleasure from the suffering of others is one of the hallmark characteristics of conditions like psychopathy and malignant narcissism.

It's inherently abnormal and a mental defect to experience joy or pleasure when another human is suffering, and even full-blown psychopaths don't experience that 100% of the time with every person on the planet.



Can you define any limiting principles within this construct of thought, or do you only throttle it based on what you feel?



Vigilantism is also linked with psychopathy and sociopathy, by definition.

What do you think the characterizations of Dexter, Travis Bickle, V, and, hell, even Batman, among other vigilante characters is entirely based on? The entire concept of a vigilante character is that they cross the line between good and evil constantly and have sociopathic traits.
100% Trump, he is malignant narcissist.
He has also stacked his cabinet with individuals that display sociopathic behavior.
 
You just made this up. There is no purity test for the existence of psychopathy and psychopathic traits.

The ability to switch empathy off and experience sadistic pleasure from the suffering of others is one of the hallmark characteristics of conditions like psychopathy and malignant narcissism.

It's inherently abnormal and a mental defect to experience joy or pleasure when another human is suffering, and even full-blown psychopaths don't experience that 100% of the time with every person on the planet.



Can you define any limiting principles within this construct of thought, or do you only throttle it based on what you feel?



Vigilantism is also linked with psychopathy and sociopathy, by definition.

What do you think the characterizations of Dexter, Travis Bickle, V, and, hell, even Batman, among other vigilante characters is entirely based on? The entire concept of a vigilante character is that they cross the line between good and evil constantly and have sociopathic traits.
Actually, it’s Asperger’s.

I don’t have your instincts.

From my point of view y’all are quite insane, doing things constantly that make no rational sense.
 
I wasn’t talking to you.

Yes you were. You were just doing it in a passive aggressive way through a poster who had responded to me.

Instead of engaging in immature and passive aggressive posting tactics, perhaps you could just focus on making logically-sound arguments to prove your points and/or disprove my points.

The junior-high tactics only serve to illegitimize your posts and undermine your own arguments. Do better.
 
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You just made this up. There is no purity test for the existence of psychopathy and psychopathic traits.

The ability to switch empathy off and experience sadistic pleasure from the suffering of others is one of the hallmark characteristics of conditions like psychopathy and malignant narcissism.

It's inherently abnormal and a mental defect to experience joy or pleasure when another human is suffering, and even full-blown psychopaths don't experience that 100% of the time with every person on the planet.



Can you define any limiting principles within this construct of thought, or do you only throttle it based on what you feel?



Vigilantism is also linked with psychopathy and sociopathy, by definition.

What do you think the characterizations of Dexter, Travis Bickle, V, and, hell, even Batman, among other vigilante characters is entirely based on? The entire concept of a vigilante character is that they cross the line between good and evil constantly and have sociopathic traits.
I would have to ask who defines what is good and evil. And is there ever a point where evil rises to the level of deserving mockery and scorn.

You’re coming at us for a religious viewpoint. Which to me is a form of insanity. Like believing in anything that cannot be proven is.
 
100% Trump, he is malignant narcissist.
He has also stacked his cabinet with individuals that display sociopathic behavior.

Definitely true.

I would extend that to a great deal of politicians, corporate CEOs, among other power-elite people in society.
 
Yes you were. You were just doing it in a passive aggressive way through a poster who had responded to me.

Instead of engaging in immature and passive aggressive posting tactics, perhaps you could just focus on making logically-sound arguments to prove your points and/or disprove my points.

The junior-high tactics only serve to illegitimize your posts and undermine your own arguments. Do better.
You come at me from a religious perspective with this?

Lol.
 
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I would have to ask who defines what is good and evil. And is there ever a point where evil rises to the level of deserving mockery and scorn.

You’re coming at us for a religious viewpoint. Which to me is a form of insanity. Like believing in anything that cannot be proven is.

False premise again. I'm agnostic. My name/avatar is a joke.
 
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