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Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem transported by ambulance to DC-area hospital, sources say

After Trump’s terrible comments regarding Walz....be the change you want to see. Can't stand her but this terrible rhetoric needs to change
While I appreciate your call for more dignity and empathy, let's be honest, these people have trashed dignity, empathy, decency, and any scrap of intelligent public behavior. It's time to try sarcasm and ridicule.
 
So, you more than others should know that this is no laughing matter.

I'm sorry but the lame excuse-making is totally unacceptable. Nobody knows the underlying reason Kristi Noem was rushed to the hospital for a severe allergic reaction.

Carry on with the sexist circle jerk for a thread.
"sexist circle jerk"........... :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

Keep supporting a sexual assaulter.
 
It was a question. Putting words in someone's mouth would've required me to assert a DECLARATION about you rather than pose a question that provided you an opportunity to confirm or disconfirm.



Basic human decency, empathy, ethics, and so on. I don't care if you were my worst enemy in the world, my ethics wouldn't allow me to take pleasure at your pain, suffering, crises, or anything else.



That's not true at all. We may have limits about what we can pour time, effort, or discussion into, but there isn't some internalized cap on the number of things we can apply our own sense of ethics or morality to. If it enters our awareness, we are just as capable of applying those ethics to the millionth thing as we would be capable of applying it to the first thing.



The more relevant question is how you arrived at the conclusion that there is a finite cap on applying empathy to others. Like what evidence do you have for this? You've spent more time already posting about NOT caring about her having an emergency than it would've taken for you to say, "Well, I don't like her but I hope she's okay." So what exactly creates this so-called "limit?"

There it is again, the assertion that I take pleasure in others misfortune. Granted I do experience a bit of Shadenfrueda when an idiot harms himself doing something dumb. But that isn’t what I said regarding Noem. My clear comment was more along apathy. I don’t care.

There is a finite amount of empathy in each person. A Woman is sexually assaulted about every minute. It is not possible for anyone to feel bad for each and every one of them. You can feel bad for friends and relatives. But that isn’t about as far as it goes.

People are dying as you read this. I can’t feel sympathy for everyone’s family. I can feel sympathy for friends and relatives.

Firemen rush to try and save lives and property. When someone dies the Fireman must walk off his feelings. For that Fireman is it a routine tragedy. It is something he sees every week, sometimes several times a day. It doesn’t mean he is heartless. It just means he is human and has a finite amount of compassion.

The Police Officer informing the next of kin of a death, again a routine tragedy. If he broke down for every one of those it would destroy him.

You say basic human empathy should be my reason to care. Why? I don’t know her. I don’t like Noem, so why waste the finite on her. She’s not my kin and she’s not a friend. She is hardly innocent. The Religious like to say God’s will when bad things happen. Why should I question God’s Will?

No, I don’t care. I remain Apathetic towards her. If she recovers fully, I don’t care. If she doesn’t, I still don’t care. I don’t wish bad on her. I just don’t give a damn.
 
There it is again, the assertion that I take pleasure in others misfortune. Granted I do experience a bit of Shadenfrueda when an idiot harms himself doing something dumb. But that isn’t what I said regarding Noem. My clear comment was more along apathy. I don’t care.

A question is the opposite of an assertion. You made an assertion. I asked clarifying questions about your assertion. Don't play the victim because I dared to ask you questions about your asserted position. It's beyond silly to do the victim thing.

There is a finite amount of empathy in each person. A Woman is sexually assaulted about every minute. It is not possible for anyone to feel bad for each and every one of them. You can feel bad for friends and relatives. But that isn’t about as far as it goes.

I already addressed this. If a woman being sexually assaulted enters your awareness, you do not have a limit on the amount of empathy you can have. You have limits on time and dedicated attention, sure, but that's not a limit on empathy itself.

If what you're saying were true, then if you heard the stories of 50, 100, 1000 women who were raped, at some point in that process you would reach a point where you didn't care that the women were raped. You'd be, at best, indifferent to it.

You may not have meant to suggest that, but that is indeed what logically follows in your stated position.

People are dying as you read this. I can’t feel sympathy for everyone’s family. I can feel sympathy for friends and relatives.

Firemen rush to try and save lives and property. When someone dies the Fireman must walk off his feelings. For that Fireman is it a routine tragedy. It is something he sees every week, sometimes several times a day. It doesn’t mean he is heartless. It just means he is human and has a finite amount of compassion.

The Police Officer informing the next of kin of a death, again a routine tragedy. If he broke down for every one of those it would destroy him.

You say basic human empathy should be my reason to care. Why? I don’t know her. I don’t like Noem, so why waste the finite on her. She’s not my kin and she’s not a friend. She is hardly innocent. The Religious like to say God’s will when bad things happen. Why should I question God’s Will?

No, I don’t care. I remain Apathetic towards her. If she recovers fully, I don’t care. If she doesn’t, I still don’t care. I don’t wish bad on her. I just don’t give a damn.

I already explained this more than once, and before this post. ONCE YOU ARE AWARE OF SOMETHING HAPPENING. Of course there is a limit on the amount of time and awareness you can pour into others' suffering, but once you become aware of someone's misfortune, you don't reach a maximum capacity on the amount of empathy that you can have for someone else. Empathy is not a finite thing.

If you heard 1000 consecutive stories of child molestation, would you have less empathy for the 1000th child telling their story, yes or no?
 
........Basic human decency, empathy, ethics, and so on. I don't care if you were my worst enemy in the world, my ethics wouldn't allow me to take pleasure at your pain, suffering, crises, or anything else........

Not so fast there Hello My Son; when you approve of the appointment of an empty headed, Botox infused nincompoop poured into ass tight jeans for a national press conference as a representative of your national security you better be prepared for snickers and sarcasm.
So, get down off of your sanctimonious high horse, you people have been regularly and gleefully making obscene and public fun of the opposition for years.
 
I find it hypocritical how Dems mention "the truth", when they themselves have lied countless times on TV and in meeting and then when caught in the lie simply ignore criticism.

EVERYTHING about Bidens health

Countless times we have seen politicians and MSM lie at will



Before you can complain about Pubs lying (they do) you should look at yourselves first.
:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
Wrong. Based on my love for country. I'm an American. Fascism is my enemy. I rightfully don't care what happens to enemies of America.
It must be so bewildering to see so many of their fellow Americans react this way after being told all their lives that they are true americans.
 
Not so fast there Hello My Son; when you approve of the appointment of an empty headed, Botox infused nincompoop poured into ass tight jeans for a national press conference as a representative of your national security you better be prepared for snickers and sarcasm.
So, get down off of your sanctimonious high horse, you people have been regularly and gleefully making obscene and public fun of the opposition for years.

Very weird post. Just bizarre....

I haven't made fun of anyone or mocked anyone's hardships, ever, and I'm not a representative of whatever imaginary collective you've delusionally decided to include me in.

So strange.
 
Gotcha:

Making fun of someone for going to the hospital: Morally acceptable.

Not calling a failed governor for his failed leadership: Morally unacceptable.

Rank hypocrisy.
I know it’s hard for MAGA to grasp. But actual humans often have varying views on varying topics. Based on education or personal experience, etc.

Dems are not a hive mind. We lost the last election due to this very thing.
 
A question is the opposite of an assertion. You made an assertion. I asked clarifying questions about your assertion. Don't play the victim because I dared to ask you questions about your asserted position. It's beyond silly to do the victim thing.



I already addressed this. If a woman being sexually assaulted enters your awareness, you do not have a limit on the amount of empathy you can have. You have limits on time and dedicated attention, sure, but that's not a limit on empathy itself.

If what you're saying were true, then if you heard the stories of 50, 100, 1000 women who were raped, at some point in that process you would reach a point where you didn't care that the women were raped. You'd be, at best, indifferent to it.

You may not have meant to suggest that, but that is indeed what logically follows in your stated position.



I already explained this more than once, and before this post. ONCE YOU ARE AWARE OF SOMETHING HAPPENING. Of course there is a limit on the amount of time and awareness you can pour into others' suffering, but once you become aware of someone's misfortune, you don't reach a maximum capacity on the amount of empathy that you can have for someone else. Empathy is not a finite thing.

If you heard 1000 consecutive stories of child molestation, would you have less empathy for the 1000th child telling their story, yes or no?

Right. So twice you said that I took pleasure in her Misfortune despite my clearly stating that I did not and you say you were just questioning it.

Well let me try some fake sympathy. Thank God she was in a city where medical care was only a few minutes away. Not like those poor rural folks where Cuts to Medical Care means reduction of paramedics and closing of hospitals. Those poor bastards should have lived in a city.

Thank the Deity of your choice that she was a short distance away from a Hospital with a fully staffed and equipped Trauma Center. Unlike the folks in Rural South Dakota where any Hospital even without a Trauma Center is an hour or more away by Ambulance.

Praise Jesus that her staff and loved ones were informed immediately on her condition and location, unlike the people who were just Disappeared while in custody of her department.

Now see I’m not happy she had this happen. But I can’t manage to care. If she lives or dies doesn’t matter to me. I don’t have any opinion on whatever reward or punishment awaits her in the hereafter.

You haven’t given me a reason I should care either. You just insist it is the right thing to do. Because. Um. Just do it or you are a bad person.

In Wyoming, when I lived there, we had what my Dad called the One Warning Rule. Someone would tell you it was dangerous just once. Then it was on you.

If a Tourist tried to climb over a fence to stand by a Bull the locals would tell him not to once, and then they would enjoy the show. Why should I waste any time feeling sorry for the dolt that entered the pasture against the advice of those who knew? Or the idiots who go out and pet a Bison when signs and experts say don’t do that.

If the dolt takes his kid out there I’ll have sympathy for the kid, but not the dolt.
 
I find it hypocritical how Dems mention "the truth", when they themselves have lied countless times on TV and in meeting and then when caught in the lie simply ignore criticism.

EVERYTHING about Bidens health

Countless times we have seen politicians and MSM lie at will



Before you can complain about Pubs lying (they do) you should look at yourselves first.
Don't even dare talk about lying when every single thing out of felon donnie's mouth is a flat out lie. And stop beating the dead-Biden-horse to death already...I know it's all your side has, but it's gotten very old and stale. Regardless of Biden's "health", he still ran rings around the current moronic and very obviously demented orange piece of shit in our Whitehouse who can't even put 2 coherent sentences together.
 
What does that mean? Do you want Iran to attack the U.S so bad things can happen to your "enemy?"
No, I in fact hope Iran gets its clock cleaned and has to spend the next 20 years getting the plumbing to work again.

They're my enemies too.
 
No, I in fact hope Iran gets its clock cleaned and has to spend the next 20 years getting the plumbing to work again.

They're my enemies too.

Or, alternatively, the Ayatollahs and IRGC are all put up against the wall and Iran becomes a democracy. I would bet that if the Iranian people were freed of the bastards running them and syphoning off their wealth, and the sanctions were lifted, Iran could give any Western nation a run for their money in terms of freedom, openness and economic dynamism. It could become an absolute haven for an untold numbers of expats the same way Spain and Portugal are except with even better food. Nothing against Spain, but Persian cuisine is second-to-none.
 

What people don't realize it is very easy to get vests that say, Police, ICE etc...I have seen multiple pictures of people that do not come close to fitting what an ICE agent would be...even under cover they have dress code requirements.
 
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