Hillary's Chances in 2008

[scottyz]

What would be hard for her if she decided to run? She has already shown she is more than capable of addressing the public and giving speeches. She has a long public service record to see the history of her stances on various issues. It would be the republican party that would talk her into running. The republican campaign machine would do all the campaigning she would just need to give speeches. Hell they got Bush elected... twice, I think she is a much stronger candidate and easily a better speaker. I am not following why you think it would be unthinkable to see her run and win.

Didn't she lie to congress? She has problems answering questions while under pressure.

 

[Kelzie]

What would be hard for her if she decided to run? She has already shown she is more than capable of addressing the public and giving speeches. She has a long public service record to see the history of her stances on various issues. It would be the republican party that would talk her into running. The republican campaign machine would do all the campaigning she would just need to give speeches. Hell they got Bush elected... twice, I think she is a much stronger candidate and easily a better speaker. I am not following why you think it would be unthinkable to see her run and win.

She's never had to get the public approval. She has never been elected. I'm not saying she wouldn't be a good candidate in the future when she has more experience, but the Republican's won't put someone up that has never had to answer to the public before. It's just a bad idea.

 

[teacher]

Didn't she lie to congress? She has problems answering questions while under pressure.

What lie? Be specific.

 

[scottyz]

I cannot believe you think that's true. So do you think Pakistan is more advanced in women's rights than the US? Howbout Britain, or the Phillipines, or India, or Germany (boo Merkel)?

Depends on what part of the U.S. you're talking about. I don't really think it has anything to do with womens rights.

 

[Kelzie]

Depends on what part of the U.S. you're talking about. I don't really think it has anything to do with womens rights.

How is thinking a women is not fit to hold office NOT about women's rights?

 

[The Mark]

How is thinking a women is not fit to hold office NOT about women's rights?

If, for example, the woman he/she/it was talking about was considered by he/she/it to be unfit for office......this does not mean that he/she/it thinks that ALL women are unfit for office.

 

[Donkey1499]

She is a bitch. She wants to censor video games to appeal to the christian right so they'll vote for her. Bitch

LOL, I know. Did you read those articles in Game Informer about the GTA: San Andreas "Hot Coffee" mod? Hillary is only going to the center so that she'll be voted in. Then she'll move back left once in office.

 

[Donkey1499]

I've got something for you all to ponder about.

Now, we all know when Bill Clinton was in office, he got a little something something under the desk. And now Clinton is called a pimp, or a big man, or whatever.

But if a woman president did something like that, how would Americans and the world view that? Would the woman prez be called a pimp or a slut?

She'd probably be called a slut, because most of the world has this double-standard BS that a man can have sex all he wants and be praised for it. But if a woman does the same acts, she's a slut.

 

[BJHOUGH]

Hillary's chances, I think, are pretty good. She's a Clinton for Christ's sake. I ain't gonna vote for her, but there is no doubt that she will win the Democrat Nomination for '08. And I don't know who I'm voting for yet. That'll have to wait until after all the nominees are picked.

SINCE BILL HAS ALREADY SERVED HIS 7 YEARS[THE OTHER YEAR WAS SPENT CHASHING INTERNS]HE WANTS TO GET BACK INTO THE BIG WHITE HOUSE,THRU.HILLERY,DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT IF HILL GETS IN SHE WILL BE DOING ANYTHING[ASK N.Y HOW MUCH SHE HAS DONE FOR US DUH-DUH]IN OTHER WORDS A VOTE FOR HILL IS A VOTE FOR BILL,DO WE REALLY NEED HIM AGAIN.THINK TWICE BEFORE YOU VOTE,VOTE FOR MICKEY MOUSE FIRST????????????HE WILL JUST TURN THE WHITE HOUSE[OURS]BACK INTO THE HOLIDAY INN,YA ALL ARE WELCOME[FOR A PRICE]WAKE UP USA

 

[Kelzie]

If, for example, the woman he/she/it was talking about was considered by he/she/it to be unfit for office......this does not mean that he/she/it thinks that ALL women are unfit for office.

You're right. But that's not what he was talking about. He said that America wasn't ready for a female president. Any female, doesn't matter.

 

[Kelzie]

I've got something for you all to ponder about.

Now, we all know when Bill Clinton was in office, he got a little something something under the desk. And now Clinton is called a pimp, or a big man, or whatever.

But if a woman president did something like that, how would Americans and the world view that? Would the woman prez be called a pimp or a slut?

She'd probably be called a slut, because most of the world has this double-standard BS that a man can have sex all he wants and be praised for it. But if a woman does the same acts, she's a slut.

Amen brother. I say we snatch the word slut back from the jaws of an insult. Make it mean something like calling a guy a stud. Then women can wear their sluttiness with as much pride as a man does.

 

[Donkey1499]

Amen brother. I say we snatch the word slut back from the jaws of an insult. Make it mean something like calling a guy a stud. Then women can wear their sluttiness with as much pride as a man does.

I guess one could do that...... But I would either get rid of the word altogether or just start using it towards men as well.

 

[kal-el]

SINCE BILL HAS ALREADY SERVED HIS 7 YEARS[THE OTHER YEAR WAS SPENT CHASHING INTERNS]HE WANTS TO GET BACK INTO THE BIG WHITE HOUSE,THRU.HILLERY,DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT IF HILL GETS IN SHE WILL BE DOING ANYTHING[ASK N.Y HOW MUCH SHE HAS DONE FOR US DUH-DUH]IN OTHER WORDS A VOTE FOR HILL IS A VOTE FOR BILL,DO WE REALLY NEED HIM AGAIN.THINK TWICE BEFORE YOU VOTE,VOTE FOR MICKEY MOUSE FIRST????????????HE WILL JUST TURN THE WHITE HOUSE[OURS]BACK INTO THE HOLIDAY INN,YA ALL ARE WELCOME[FOR A PRICE]WAKE UP USA

I think America desperately misses the prosperity we were having during Clinton's years. If she is nominated, most likely she will get in, who the hell does the GOP have to run that even stands a chance against her? MCcain, that's all I could think of. I really don't like how Hilary flip-flopped on the war, but I would vote for her over any of Bush's cronies any day.

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

Hmm... You know. I think she's singularly unsuited for the job, but the reps might try to cash in on Condi by putting her in the VP slot on a aught-eight ticket...

As to Hil...? Yeah. I'd vote it if she'll try it. I think she had the capital to do it earlier, actually, and I'm not sure she will this time. But I do think she'd do a very good job of it. People would undoubtably make implications about Bill being there, but the truth is that every couple to occupy that house is a couple, just like any other. Some of the one is always going to be there with the other. She was a valuable asset during Bill's presidency, and I think he'd be a valuable asset during hers.

And, Kelzie... Sadly, I think you're over-estimating our countrymen (and, disturbingly, many of our countrywomen...) Immigrants to this country generally consider it to be a much more religious country than do we who live here... we don't see just how deep it goes sometimes. Even outside the "traditional christain role" of women, I think a whole lot of males would react with a "yeah, right." to the idea of a woman president. And, as I implied above, far too many women would agree that it's just not a woman's place.

And hell yes, we should be sexually as potent as the boys are. reclaiming the word "slut" might be a start (although I think the kids are pointing more toward "ho" at this point...) but that's going to be a long time coming.

We'll never be able to own our sexuality as long as sex is "sinful" or something that "good" people agree should be saved for marriage... Because all those standards do is help perpetuate the idea, concious or subconcious, that we're really nothing more than a commodity.

When friends in other countries ask how we can be so sexually repressed, I tend to point out that this country was founded by people who fled England because they found the brittish to be too lascivious and sinful ;-)

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

But then Democrates go with their guy no matter how much their character is proven to be faulty.

...Hmm...

Could have something to do with Democrats knowing a president's value has more to do with skill, intelligence, political acumen, and the desire to do what's best for our contry and planet, and less to do with what self-rightous religious figures narrowly define as "character".

 

[Canuck]

o nil chance suicide for her to run for dems
she will be up against john mccain
VP though would be good post for a womnan first time around

need some better candidates for the dems current crop dufuses

 

[DivineComedy]

One thing is for sure in 2008, the next President of the United States will be a WOMEN! The race is practically all but set as Hilliary vs. Rice.

The idea of having a president that I would like to have sex with is just too strange, I would find myself masturbating when she gave speeches, and I would not be able to function; she was so cute with a band in her hair.

Newt 2008!

 

[Billo_Really]

Originally Posted by teacher
But then Democrates go with their guy no matter how much their character is proven to be faulty.

Said the Pot to the Kettle.

 

[Tashah]

I'd luv to see Hillary run in '08. She has more baggage than Amtrack.

 

[Billo_Really]

Originally posted by DivineComedy:
The idea of having a president that I would like to have sex with is just too strange, I would find myself masturbating when she gave speeches, and I would not be able to function; she was so cute with a band in her hair.

Newt 2008!

She used to be a women. Then she cut her hair, went butch, became a lesbian, making her more man-like, perfectly replacing the man we don't like, by pollsters giving her one major big "O".

 

[Billo_Really]

Originally posted by Tashah:
I'd luv to see Hillary run in '08. She has more baggage than Amtrack.

Women won't vote for women. Their far too competitive and vicious with each other. Ever notice when a women walks into a room, within 5 seconds, all the other women have analyzed everything wrong about her and start sharing that information with anyone that will listen.

Why? Because women are attention whores! They need (not want) to think every man in the room wants to be with them.

 

[Donkey1499]

Hillary is as evil as Nixon was. Except instead of having an evil King running the US, we'll have an evil Queen running it.

I just hope and pray to GOD that she isn't elected. I'd even vote for "W" again...

 

[Kelzie]

Women won't vote for women. Their far too competitive and vicious with each other. Ever notice when a women walks into a room, within 5 seconds, all the other women have analyzed everything wrong about her and start sharing that information with anyone that will listen.

Why? Because women are attention whores! They need (not want) to think every man in the room wants to be with them.

I'd vote for her. So there. :nahnah:

 

[The Mark]

Women won't vote for women. Their far too competitive and vicious with each other. Ever notice when a women walks into a room, within 5 seconds, all the other women have analyzed everything wrong about her and start sharing that information with anyone that will listen.

Why? Because women are attention whores! They need (not want) to think every man in the room wants to be with them.

I'm not sure if you are serious or not here......but I disagree with you.

Of course, I am a male, so I wouldn't know.

 

[DivineComedy]

She used to be a women. Then she cut her hair, went butch, became a lesbian, making her more man-like, perfectly replacing the man we don't like, by pollsters giving her one major big "O".

I want both Ann Coulter and Hillary in a snow bound cabin so lesbian tendencies are not a problem, unless they throw me out in the snow to die.

Sex sells, and you can bet that a good looking president will win over an ugly one, even if the good looking one in the debates implies that deficits are good and the ugly sweaty one (Nixon) is against them to the point of impounding (that resulted in the 1974 Budget and Impound Control Act, which caused the budget to go up in a linear fashion until Reagan).

Hillary can win on the economy (good baggage for those that can‘t spell irrational exuberance) and social issues (that women care more about). That is why Republicans must choose a Newt, if they do not I bet they will lose big time and the Republicans will be puking their guts out at the display Democrats will make of it. Even with the baggage they both carry my bet is Hillary would win against all comers, except a well known Republican that clearly can say he was there and instrumental in Clinton’s economy. If Hillary is careful with her words, and so far she has shown far more intelligence than John Kerry ever could, she can win enough of the pro-war crowd, that are fed up with the economy, without totally alienating the anti-war crowd. Even those that take their time with an issue can see Republicans getting squashed like a bug in the next election, even if Iraq in 2007 looks like the best thing since chipped beef on a shingle.

Another issue that will certainly come up is heath care, and I say the Health fiasco could actually play in Hillary’s favor if the Republicans are stupid enough to bring up her work on that, and you can bet they will bring it up. Unless someone can prove that it could not work, Hillary can say what she supported could have worked, and if it gets too complicated Hillary wins the debate with the mob. Republicans can say that while they had both Congress and the White House they are not responsible for huge increases in the costs of health care. People want results, and the mob has an attention span that wants things to flash by like a music video; I guess I am a little old fashioned and would rather kill the editor and just focus on the chick while she sings. When Republican supporting corporations make agreements with the unions, that would sell out their own mother, to cut health insurance on retirees, to save money, because the retirees can get “some” relief from a government program like Medicare, all I see is a gross hypocrisy among Republicans that cries out for universal health insurance.

Let’s not even talk about illegal immigration and amnesty. And please do not mention the hideously ridiculous foreign debt, when I need a fuel efficient car that does not weigh a ton, especially considering the significance of this week (after the usurers demanded full payment while my house was under a tarp from a natural disaster.) I might explode, and get degusting stuff all over your screen.

I say we increase taxes on the rich, get CETA to rake leaves in the forest and to tag beach goers like Joseph Califano wanted to do (to save on health care), and let’s teach the damn rich hypocrites that can afford to drive Hummers a real lesson.

Newt 2008!