Hillary Clinton Gun culture ‘way out of balance’.....

[WCH]

heya wch. :2wave: Well, you know she has to wait and see how things are going before she makes a decision. So she says.....but then she didn't hesitate to come out with these remarks. So she will be running around looking for money from all her adoring fans thru this issue by itself.

fan-fargging-tastic!!!!! The beginning of a massive circle-jerk of "hillary is coming for your guns" types of threads.

Can we start a new sub-forum for just such activity? It can be called:

_______________ is coming for your guns

whoever the current "leading democratic favorite" is can have their name placed in the _______________ field.


:roll:

be ever vigilant!

 

[LaMidRighter]

Yeah...but we have to kind of give her a break. She needs to spend the next year or so casting a wide net to see which cause or special interest she can run on during the actual 2016 campaign. She needs to fidn something that will work as a schtick. She initially floated the war against women rhetoric and immediately after she did Kathleen Wiley came forward. Now she has floated the anti-gun thing, but think she is going to find that that is a stink bug. She will toss out the poor downtrodden minority thing within a few months, but she doesnt connect well with minorities. She even went to church a few times...for all the good it has done her.

I think you are right. She knows she has a lot of heavy baggage and needs a diversion, and I think you just described the only strategy needed to beat her, make her wear all of that baggage during the election cycle until she looks like the house landing scene in "The Wizard of Oz".

 

[VanceMack]

I think you are right. She knows she has a lot of heavy baggage and needs a diversion, and I think you just described the only strategy needed to beat her, make her wear all of that baggage during the election cycle until she looks like the house landing scene in "The Wizard of Oz".

Yep. Of course...there is a backdoor strategy for her to win...and his name is Corey Booker.

 

[Lutherf]

Yeah Illegal Immigration wont work this time round.....the war on women wont work. The war on poverty will be one......class will be two. Plus she has to distance herself from BO and show why she is different than him while showing his failures too.

Of course once the Demos lose the Senate and start that process to get Rid of BO's Boondoggle. Then she might try to bring back her Grandma Care.

All that depends on who the Republicans run.

If the Republicans choose to run Christie then all that stuff is on the table because he isn't too far off from her on those issues. If they run Bush then he's right with her on immigration and will likely cede a whole lot of ground on the other issues in hope of garnering the "centrist" vote.

 

[MMC]

be ever vigilant!

Johnny was on the Spot.....and I aint talkin Johnny Quest McCain neither. :mrgreen:

 

[MMC]

All that depends on who the Republicans run.

If the Republicans choose to run Christie then all that stuff is on the table because he isn't too far off from her on those issues. If they run Bush then he's right with her on immigration and will likely cede a whole lot of ground on the other issues in hope of garnering the "centrist" vote.

I hear Mike Pence might make the Dash now. Which if he took Condi for a VP. Slamdunk......turn out the lights. The party is over for the Demos and the left. I cant remember if I had a thread up on it or not or just a post I put up. Either way I got it up around here somewhere.

Only thing left to do is to destroy their party. Otherwise they will just keep coming to take away peoples Rights in one endeavor to another.

 

[jaeger19]

All that depends on who the Republicans run.

If the Republicans choose to run Christie then all that stuff is on the table because he isn't too far off from her on those issues. If they run Bush then he's right with her on immigration and will likely cede a whole lot of ground on the other issues in hope of garnering the "centrist" vote.

Christie will go to the right on gun issues.. just like Mccain did. Hillary will grab the third rail (guns) and hold on.. and probably lose. The vast majority of people are either pro gun.. or they don't care and have bigger fish to fry.

 

[Lutherf]

Christie will go to the right on gun issues.. just like Mccain did. Hillary will grab the third rail (guns) and hold on.. and probably lose. The vast majority of people are either pro gun.. or they don't care and have bigger fish to fry.

I don't see Christie moving right on guns at all. He's pretty much straight up urban, northeastern Republican and while he's not Mike Bloomberg he is pretty close to Cuomo on the issue.

 

[Μολὼν λαβέ]

Hillary has returned to the gun ban platform of the 1990s. This should really help her campaign for POTUS in the 21st century, not!

Run Hillary, run!

 

[TurtleDude]

Hillary has returned to the gun ban platform of the 1990s. This should really help her campaign for POTUS in the 21st century, not!

Run Hillary, run!

male hating bitches whining about guns creates a reasonable belief that her hatred of guns is all about bashing those who legally own them

 

[Krystov]

.....Takes aim at 2nd Amendment:

Hillary Rodham Clinton said Tuesday the nation’s gun culture has gotten “way out of balance” and the U.S. needs to rein in the notion that “anybody can have a gun, anywhere, anytime.”

Clinton waded into the polarizing issue of gun politics during an appearance at the National Council for Behavioral Health conference in Oxon Hill, Md., pointing to recent shootings that involved teens who had been playing loud music and chewing gum and a separate incident involving the typing of text messages in a movie theater.

“I think again we’re way out of balance. I think that we’ve got to rein in what has become an almost article of faith that anybody can have a gun anywhere, anytime,” Clinton said. “And I don’t believe that is in the best interest of the vast majority of people. And I think you can say that and still support the right of people to own guns.”

If Clinton runs for president, her views on gun control would clash with Republicans, who have largely opposed efforts to tighten gun laws. During a recent National Rifle Association conference in Indianapolis, for example, GOP Gov. Bobby Jindal of Louisiana, a potential 2016 candidate, said Clinton and Vice President Joe Biden considered the Second Amendment to be little more than “a phrase from a speech writer.”

Clinton told attendees at the mental health conference that “at the rate we’re going, we’re going to have so many people with guns everywhere, fully licensed, fully validated” in settings like movie theaters where shootings have arisen over seemingly mundane things like loud gum chewing or cellphone use.

“That’s what happens in the countries I’ve visited where there is no rule of law and no self-control and that is something that we cannot just let go without paying attention,” she said.

During a question-and-answer session, Clinton was asked about the 1993 suicide of Clinton White House lawyer Vince Foster. Referring to him as “our friend in the White House,” she said he had been depressed and “filled with anxieties.” Like other men she has known who killed themselves, Clinton said, “they did not want to be seen as weak, they didn’t want to admit their problems.”.....snip~


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What say ye brethren of the Lock and Load.....Hill-Dog, just entered the game barking away and playing with her issue of making up her mind as to if she wants to run for the Presidency. Know what you will face should this Liberal win the Presidency. She will go after the Second amendment. Since Bo will have failed with his Presidency to get what the Prog-Know-This and Liberal Elite wanted done.

Do you think she can Howl louder should she win? Think her Emotional Appeal of tears and crying, will help with this issue. Cmon now you know how the MS Media will be on the kick over the first woman President in the US. Just think how she will rally Feinstein, Boxer, all the Anti Gun nuts in Washington. Then her buddy Bloomberg.

Will all take a stand on this issue, then Rise up to make sure the Democrats Never gain Power again? That's you're only chance of stopping them for coming for your Rights.

Libs will be libs... However, even if some legislation was passed that greatly limits who can have guns, where, and when they can have them, and what kinds with what capacities, I don't believe it will be completely federally enforceable. They would have to pass an amendment that essentially repeals the 2nd, otherwise the states may just say to hell with you to the fed. There were several sheriffs in Colorado who said they would not support or enforce laws passed to "reduce" gun violence because they felt it violated the second. If the federal government can't get local law enforcement to back their legislation, it won't mean anything. Not to mention, if it's not an amendment the states don't have to abide by it under the 10th amendment.

Don't mistake this as complacency, for I two am worried that eventually the rights given by the 2nd will be revoked. But that could be a ways down the road and will most likely start with the states, not in the federal government, unless of course this is an amendment. With as much split across the isle as there is in the Capitol, I don't think the federal government is really what we need to be worried about right now.

 

[DDD]

Well, I guess you have no other choice than give up your arms now.

 

[Phys251]

I wonder how many non-Democrats would be willing to consider voting Democratic if the party would rethink its stance on guns.

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Friendly warning: Don't go there. Just, don't. We've all seen what can happen on DP when someone does.

 

[LaMidRighter]

I wonder how many non-Democrats would be willing to consider voting Democratic if the party would rethink its stance on guns.


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They have to go a lot farther than just gun rights. The Democrat party would have to be open to taking back a LOT of regulations that they've created and basically start focusing on economics and commercial freedom, they would have to start respecting tax dollars which means a lot of pet programs will need massive overhauls, they would need to severely reign in federal law. Not excusing the Republicans, they have a lot of work to do to get people like me back as well.

 

[jamesrage]

I'm sorry Mrs. Clinton, could you speak up? It's hard to hear you past all of those heavily armed secret service agents and local policemen.

This is what cracks me up about anti-2nd amendment scum. They can have have the protect of not only one gun but dozens of guns and can go anywhere with that protection but they do not want most Americans to have the protection of a gun anywhere they go. Its like the eco-tards who preach about man made global warming while living in mansions and driving gas guzzlers and taking a private jet everywhere.

 

[Master PO]

This from someone who thinks that the “rule of law”*is just for the little people, and not for their rulers.

notice when a shoe was throw at her, their were people citing it was a violation of federal law, even though she is no longer a member of government.

this is a perfect example of federal laws being made to constrain the common man where it concerns former members of government.

 

[Goshin]

Let Hillary keep stepping on those land mines... she's just making it less and less likely she'll ever sit in the big chair in the Oval Office.

 

[Phys251]

They have to go a lot farther than just gun rights. The Democrat party would have to be open to taking back a LOT of regulations that they've created and basically start focusing on economics and commercial freedom, they would have to start respecting tax dollars which means a lot of pet programs will need massive overhauls, they would need to severely reign in federal law. Not excusing the Republicans, they have a lot of work to do to get people like me back as well.

Many of the disagreements between those who generally vote Democratic vs. those who generally vote Republican is not just what the major problems are, but how to solve those problems. For instance, most Americans would probably agree that having less poverty would be a good thing, but how to go about that results in all kinds of differing, and nowadays conflicting, opinions.

 

[TurtleDude]

Let Hillary keep stepping on those land mines... she's just making it less and less likely she'll ever sit in the big chair in the Oval Office.

that might improve those Cankles

she's going to be so full of baggage by 2016 even Jerry Springer wouldn't choose her

 

[LaMidRighter]

Many of the disagreements between those who generally vote Democratic vs. those who generally vote Republican is not just what the major problems are, but how to solve those problems. For instance, most Americans would probably agree that having less poverty would be a good thing, but how to go about that results in all kinds of differing, and nowadays conflicting, opinions.

Absolutely, but when you have a party saying that people have too much freedom, and the solution is always more rules, less freedom, there is a major problem.

 

[TurtleDude]

Many of the disagreements between those who generally vote Democratic vs. those who generally vote Republican is not just what the major problems are, but how to solve those problems. For instance, most Americans would probably agree that having less poverty would be a good thing, but how to go about that results in all kinds of differing, and nowadays conflicting, opinions.

true gun ownership generally means "individual" while those who outsource personal safety to the government tend to be collectivists

 

[Phys251]

true gun ownership generally means "individual" while those who outsource personal safety to the government tend to be collectivists

Interestingly, substitute just a few words and you come up with a very common defense for socialism (actual socialism, not the Fox "News" version):

"True ownership by the people generally means equal rights for all, while those who outsource personal safety to corporations tend to be corporatists."

No way I'm convincing you in just one post but the parallel is interesting, nonetheless.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Absolutely, but when you have a party saying that people have too much freedom, and the solution is always more rules, less freedom, there is a major problem.

It's not enough just to “like” this statement. It needs to be repeated and emphasized; and we need to hope that the next few election cycles, unlike that past few, that the American people will remember and understand this.

 

[TurtleDude]

Interestingly, substitute just a few words and you come up with a very common defense for socialism (actual socialism, not the Fox "News" version):

"True ownership by the people generally means equal rights for all, while those who outsource personal safety to corporations tend to be corporatists."

No way I'm convincing you in just one post but the parallel is interesting, nonetheless.

not really relevant to what I am saying. Gun control tends to be favored by collectivists and nanny state advocates. and you get some weird situations where people who own lots of guns don't want others owning guns (the Klan was an example)

 

[Bob Blaylock]

not really relevant to what I am saying. Gun control tends to be favored by collectivists and nanny state advocates. and you get some weird situations where people who own lots of guns don't want others owning guns (the Klan was an example)

…or Timothy Sullivan and his allies.