Helena Kerschner’s POWERFUL Story About Going In and Out of Transgenderism.

[Captain Adverse]

I am providing a video of a recent interview by Ben Shapiro of Helena Kerschner's "transgender and detransition" story.

Mr. Shapiro makes no arguments or points. He simply asked Ms. Kerschner to tell her story, and then asks questions which allow her to provide various details of the experience and how she dealt with them.



Ms. Kerschner discusses the pressures she was dealing with which led her into transgenderism.

She explains the processes she went through once she felt it was the "right thing" for her to do.

She goes on to explain the problems with the treatments she underwent.

Then her realization that she was not, in fact, transgendered, and how the "support groups" who had been encouraging her all along turned on her.

Finally, she expresses her "luck" at surviving the ideology, and the medical system which profits from it "relatively unscathed."

My opinion on this subject:

1. I am certain that there may actually be a small segment of humanity that are affected by this concern over being "born the wrong sex."

2. I am open to the possibility of some genetic or physiological cause of this syndrome.

3. I am also willing to respect the informed choice of transitioning made by ADULTS after they determine it is really what they want to do. No one who supports individual liberty and freedom of choice could do otherwise.

4. However, I do not believe either pre-pubescent children, nor early teens going through puberty have the knowledge, experience, or maturity to make such life-changing decisions.

I also think there is a "cottage industry" of psychologists, endocrinologists, social workers, and educators who are pushing this in the name of ideology, and for profit.

So my position is to let kids be kids, by protecting them from social media "peer pressure to belong to an in-group." Pressures leading them to drastically change their physical appearance while truly unable to understand the permanent impact on the rest of their lives.

 

[Phys251]

I am providing a video of a recent interview by Ben Shapiro of Helena Kerschner's "transgender and detransition" story.

Mr. Shapiro makes no arguments or points. He simply asked Ms. Kerschner to tell her story, and then asks questions which allow her to provide various details of the experience and how she dealt with them.



Ms. Kerschner discusses the pressures she was dealing with which led her into transgenderism.

She explains the processes she went through once she felt it was the "right thing" for her to do.

She goes on to explain the problems with the treatments she underwent.

Then her realization that she was not, in fact, transgendered, and how the "support groups" who had been encouraging her all along turned on her.

Finally, she expresses her "luck" at surviving the ideology, and the medical system which profits from it "relatively unscathed."

My opinion on this subject:

1. I am certain that there may actually be a small segment of humanity that are affected by this concern over being "born the wrong sex."

2. I am open to the possibility of some genetic or physiological cause of this syndrome.

3. I am also willing to respect the informed choice of transitioning made by ADULTS after it is determined it is really what they want to do. No one who supports individual liberty and freedom of choice could do otherwise.

However, I do not believe either pre-pubescent children, nor early teens going through puberty have the knowledge, experience, or maturity to make such life-changing decisions.

I also think there is a "cottage industry" of psychologists, endocrinologists, social workers, and educators who are pushing this in the name of ideology, and for profit.

So my position is to let kids be kids, by protecting them from social media "peer pressure to belong to an in-group." Pressures leading them to drastically change their physical appearance while truly unable to understand the permanent impact on the rest of their lives.

Captain, what does the Q stand for in LGBTQ?

 

[Crovax]

Captain, what does the Q stand for in LGBTQ?

That's an outdated acronym, I believe the correct one is LGBTQIA2S+

 

[Phys251]

That's an outdated acronym, I believe the correct one is LGBTQIA2S+

Your trolling is dismissed, and the question stands.

 

[Lisa]

I am providing a video of a recent interview by Ben Shapiro of Helena Kerschner's "transgender and detransition" story.

Mr. Shapiro makes no arguments or points. He simply asked Ms. Kerschner to tell her story, and then asks questions which allow her to provide various details of the experience and how she dealt with them.



Ms. Kerschner discusses the pressures she was dealing with which led her into transgenderism.

She explains the processes she went through once she felt it was the "right thing" for her to do.

She goes on to explain the problems with the treatments she underwent.

Then her realization that she was not, in fact, transgendered, and how the "support groups" who had been encouraging her all along turned on her.

Finally, she expresses her "luck" at surviving the ideology, and the medical system which profits from it "relatively unscathed."

My opinion on this subject:

1. I am certain that there may actually be a small segment of humanity that are affected by this concern over being "born the wrong sex."

2. I am open to the possibility of some genetic or physiological cause of this syndrome.

3. I am also willing to respect the informed choice of transitioning made by ADULTS after they determine it is really what they want to do. No one who supports individual liberty and freedom of choice could do otherwise.

4. However, I do not believe either pre-pubescent children, nor early teens going through puberty have the knowledge, experience, or maturity to make such life-changing decisions.

I also think there is a "cottage industry" of psychologists, endocrinologists, social workers, and educators who are pushing this in the name of ideology, and for profit.

So my position is to let kids be kids, by protecting them from social media "peer pressure to belong to an in-group." Pressures leading them to drastically change their physical appearance while truly unable to understand the permanent impact on the rest of their lives.

There is no such thing as Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria. That was debunked years ago. It didn't pass the laugh test from the very start.

Littman's claim was that around the time of adolescence, children were becoming dysphoric about their gender suddenly as a result of peer pressure and social media, and using that dysphoria as a coping mechanism.




She postulated that gender dysphoria was like anorexia for teen girls, and wasn't an actual medical condition, which it is, so much as a cultural and temporary response to the difficulties of puberty. She also claimed that these children had not been transgender prior to puberty.




In the article, Littman defined rapid onset gender dysphoria as "a type of adolescent-onset or late-onset gender dysphoria where the development of gender dysphoria is observed to begin suddenly during or after puberty in an adolescent or young adult who would not have met criteria for gender dysphoria in childhood."




She made this claim based on anecdotal "evidence" from parents of children and teenagers, not from clinical research. As nearly 2% of youth identify as trans,2

this claim affected a substantial portion of the population.





The paper did not take into account the fact that it's normal and common for children to keep sensitive information to themselves, and to present it to their parents when they feel ready.




By framing the fact that children may not tell their parents about their dysphoria until they're in the pre-pubescent stage, Littman discounted the very simple way that humans of all ages deal with complex emotions: by expressing them when they are ready to.

The Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria Controversy

When a researcher wrote a paper claiming that gender dysphoria may be caused by peer pressure and social media, it led to outrage among advocates.

www.verywellmind.com

 

[Crovax]

Your trolling is dismissed, and the question stands.

Your ignorance is not, and the question is not valid if you don't even know the proper acronym

 

[Captain Adverse]

Captain, what does the Q stand for in LGBTQ?

The question is "irrelevant" for many reasons. Especially when it is posed as a Red Herring, rather than attempt to honestly address the video and the topic of discussion.

If you don't want to view the video and then participate in an informed discussion on the actual topic of the thread, then stop wasting time on diversions which need no responses in this thread.

 

[Phys251]

The question is "irrelevant" for many reasons. Especially when it is posed as a Red Herring, rather than attempt to honestly address the video and the topic of discussion.

If you don't want to view the video and then participate in an informed discussion on the actual topic of the thread, then stop wasting time on diversions which need no responses in this thread.

Actually if you'll take the time to answer the question of what the Q stands for, instead of making kneejerk reactions, you'll see there is a point here.

 

[Hamish Howl]

I am providing a video of a recent interview by Ben Shapiro

Whoops.

Stopped right there. Automatic bullshit.

 

[PoS]

I dont think kids have the maturity to know their sex until they become adults. If they want to change their gender after they turn 18 thats up to them, but before that, its not a good idea imo.

 

[Schism]

This story closely mirrors one of my wife's relatives, a niece in her mid 20's who's lived an extremely isolated life IRL, but has lived online for the last 10 years. She's currently non-binary, completely altered her appearance to look like a Japanese Manga boy, and changed her name to something like Vanexika. She has nothing to do with anyone, works at Target, and rants on a blog how nobody addresses her as "they/them" without a prompt - it's nuts.

I assume at some point she'll come through it and realize she's a mixed up narcissist. Still we love her as she is.

I also have two gay male cousins who are doing great and have had long term relationships, had long careers, and are loved and fully normal family members.

Some people are just emotionally mixed up. We've had several teenagers in our extended family go wild. But there's plenty of time for nature to take its course and people will find a path to walk on their own. Sometimes getting too involved can create as much conflict as the things people are going through, which only increases the frustration.

Some on the left seem to be pushing it as opposed to allowing something that happens naturally and organically.

 

[Lisa]

I dont think kids have the maturity to know their sex until they become adults. If they want to change their gender after they turn 18 thats up to them, but before that, its not a good idea imo.

Did you not understand you were a boy when you began puberty?

How many times did you wish to be a girl when you were a tween or teen? That is what happens when someone is a trans teen. They identify more with the opposite sex than their own gender. How do you plan to effectively deal with gender dysphoria when you want to deny effective care until they are 18, or don't you undated that exists?

 

[ProgressPlease]

It's too bad she and her story are being exploited by the likes of Ben Shapiro.

 

[buck]

There is no such thing as Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria. That was debunked years ago. It didn't pass the laugh test from the very start.

The Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria Controversy

When a researcher wrote a paper claiming that gender dysphoria may be caused by peer pressure and social media, it led to outrage among advocates.

www.verywellmind.com

This is at least the 2nd time you have claimed that studies are 'debunked". Your evidence? Blog and opinion posts.

Yet, the studies are still published, were not 'debunked', have been observed in clinical settings and are being used by experts in the field to create policies and treatments (i.e. Academy of National Medicine in France) .

It's really the strangest thing. Anyway, you do you.

 

[j brown's body]

I dont think kids have the maturity to know their sex until they become adults. If they want to change their gender after they turn 18 thats up to them, but before that, its not a good idea imo.

I would not be surprised to learn that that is why some become priests or nuns.

 

[buck]

So my position is to let kids be kids, by protecting them from social media "peer pressure to belong to an in-group."

So important, and it's not just delusional gender theory spreading around social media. Your comment made me think of the below article:

In a world gone mad, elites keep peddling untruths

The reason why everybody is so excited about Twitter at the moment, and Elon Musk buying it, is that Twitter has helped fry the brains of our society.

nypost.com

Why does the world seem so mad right now? There are two reasons. The first is the injection of implausible claims into our society. The second is the speed and volume at which they come: mainly thanks to social media.

Now I do not want to be prurient. Or prudish. But someone with a penis who dates girls is a dude. And a straight dude at that. And I’m not by any means certain that he should be competing in women’s sports even if he does feel kind of feminine every time he slips into the pool.

This is a deranging claim in itself. At the time that the first slaves arrived in America every civilization in the world still practiced slavery. There was nothing unique about America. But once the claims of activist non-historians like the 1619 project are spun through social media they enter a new realm entirely.

Two years ago there was even an attempt on social media to claim that 2+2=4 is a white, racist concept. As a result activist mathematicians busied themselves trying to prove that 2+2 could equal 5. The results were not persuasive.

 

[Phys251]

This is at least the 2nd time you have claimed that studies are 'debunked". Your evidence? Blog and opinion posts.

Yet, the studies are still published, were not 'debunked', have been observed in clinical settings and are being used by experts in the field to create policies and treatments (i.e. Academy of National Medicine in France) .

It's really the strangest thing. Anyway, you do you.

Prove that ROGD is a thing.

Meanwhile, as I suggested to @Captain Adverse, Questioning is definitely a thing.

 

[lwf]

I am providing a video of a recent interview by Ben Shapiro of Helena Kerschner's "transgender and detransition" story.

Mr. Shapiro makes no arguments or points. He simply asked Ms. Kerschner to tell her story, and then asks questions which allow her to provide various details of the experience and how she dealt with them.



Ms. Kerschner discusses the pressures she was dealing with which led her into transgenderism.

She explains the processes she went through once she felt it was the "right thing" for her to do.

She goes on to explain the problems with the treatments she underwent.

Then her realization that she was not, in fact, transgendered, and how the "support groups" who had been encouraging her all along turned on her.

Finally, she expresses her "luck" at surviving the ideology, and the medical system which profits from it "relatively unscathed."

My opinion on this subject:

1. I am certain that there may actually be a small segment of humanity that are affected by this concern over being "born the wrong sex."

2. I am open to the possibility of some genetic or physiological cause of this syndrome.

3. I am also willing to respect the informed choice of transitioning made by ADULTS after they determine it is really what they want to do. No one who supports individual liberty and freedom of choice could do otherwise.

4. However, I do not believe either pre-pubescent children, nor early teens going through puberty have the knowledge, experience, or maturity to make such life-changing decisions.

I also think there is a "cottage industry" of psychologists, endocrinologists, social workers, and educators who are pushing this in the name of ideology, and for profit.

So my position is to let kids be kids, by protecting them from social media "peer pressure to belong to an in-group." Pressures leading them to drastically change their physical appearance while truly unable to understand the permanent impact on the rest of their lives.

I agree with all of your points except for the "cottage industry" nonsense. There is no appreciable "cottage industry" of trained medical professionals that profits from abusing children. There are FAR more child pornographers in America than there are medical professionals who are forcing children into life altering decisions.

Which brings me to the crux of the problem in America right now. The problem here is that Republican activists like Ben Shapiro and others are artificially amplifying the problem by focusing in on any and all horror stories they find and using them to make the problem appear larger than it is, associate the problem with Democrats, and in doing so fuel the fires of the culture war. When laymen see story after story of people who thought they were trans and then changed their minds, or, god forbid, the extremely rare circumstance of an abusive parent and criminal physician trying to force children into life altering decisions, and then they hear talking heads like Shapiro repeat these stories weekly and associate them with Democrats, they start to assume that these stories are commonplace and that this is what Democrats are in favor of. This has the dual effect of frightening these people with misleading information, and spurring them to vote for their party for the "protection of the children" from a problem that barely even exists and certainly doesn't need more government intervention.

This is dishonesty for political gain and results in more laws and more government power. It is nothing more than frightening people to the polls with carefully selected truth related in a way to trick people into coming to nonsensical conclusions. It is little different than when Democrats focus on their own pet problems by collecting horror stories (police brutality and gun violence for example) and inundating their shocked viewers with them in order to magnify a smaller problem to seem larger than it is.

Obviously, no one wants children to be making life altering decisions, just like no one wants police to brutalize black men and no one wants drive by shootings in their neighborhood, so no one is specifically arguing in favor of these things. But this is how government gets bloated with power and unnecessary legislation. This is exactly how the "swamp" forms. We scare people with out-of-context horror stories and promise to make laws preventing these already illegal horror stories in order to get them to vote, and then we make newer and better laws to make these horror shows "even more illegal" and find new things to outlaw. DeSantis is the poster child for this lately. Then we complain about unintended consequences, nanny states, and bloated government bureaucracy.

 

[Gatsby]

It's too bad she and her story are being exploited by the likes of Ben Shapiro.

This is infantilizing. She had a story to tell, and she told it. She knew (or could have easily found out) who Ben Shapiro is prior to appearing on his show. If you want to criticize her, then make your case...but don't pretend she's somehow been victimized here.

She has been victimized, but not by Ben Shapiro. By the people who participated in this charade.

 

[Gatsby]

Kids and teens are not old enough to make potentially permanent changes to their bodies. If you aren't even old enough to get a tattoo, you certainly aren't old enough for bizarre hormone "therapies" and getting prepped for cosmetic surgeries.

 

[Gatsby]

The problem here is that Republican activists like Ben Shapiro and others are artificially amplifying the problem by focusing in on any and all horror stories they find and using them to make the problem appear larger than it is, associate the problem with Democrats, and in doing so fuel the fires of the culture war.

I mean...there is a very easy solution to that problem. More Democrats could simply speak up in agreement with Ben Shapiro that this is terrible and wrong and shouldn't have happened, as I do. Then it's no longer associated with Democrats and doesn't fuel fires in anyone's culture war. Just as, say, lobotomies don't have any particular cultural or political coding.

But there are people in this thread who are defending children being drugged so that they can begin transitioning sex. Two of them call themselves "Progressive" and "Slightly Liberal," and one of them even accused me of being a stealth conservative for NOT supporting it. So it's not like it's completely off base to associate this bizarre ideology with one particular side of the political spectrum.

 

[Captain Adverse]

I agree with all of your points except for the "cottage industry" nonsense. There is no appreciable "cottage industry" of trained medical professionals that profits from abusing children. There are FAR more child pornographers in America than there are medical professionals who are forcing children into life altering decisions.

The "cottage industry" consists of exactly the groups of "specialists" who feed off of this new "mental health/medical issue" I listed in my response.

Psychologists and Social workers (who are paid for their evaluation and counseling services), endocrinologists who "specialize in the diagnosis and treatment of hormone related diseases and conditions," and educators like all those teachers and school officials inculcating these ideas in children's heads while under their care in schools.

Most of these "kids" who develop the idea they are "in the wrong body," seem to be suffering the same childhood development issues we all have faced at one time or another in childhood. Where do I fit in, how do I become popular, what is my "niche" in the social pecking order. Etc.

It is at this time that children are most vulnerable to peer pressure, acceptance needs, and adult indoctrination.

 

[Phys251]

The "cottage industry" consists of exactly the groups of "specialists" who feed off of this new "mental health/medical issue" I listed in my response.

Psychologists and Social workers (who are paid for their evaluation and counseling services), endocrinologists who "specialize in the diagnosis and treatment of hormone related diseases and conditions," and educators like all those teachers and school officials inculcating these ideas in children's head while under their care in schools.

That's a lot of accusations in one post. Care to back them up?

 

[Phys251]

I mean...there is a very easy solution to that problem. More Democrats could simply speak up in agreement with Ben Shapiro that this is terrible and wrong and shouldn't have happened, as I do. Then it's no longer associated with Democrats and doesn't fuel fires in anyone's culture war.

But there are people in this thread who are defending children being drugged so that they can begin transitioning sex. Two of them call themselves "Progressive" and "Slightly Liberal." So it's not like it's completely off base to associate this bizarre ideology with one particular side of the political spectrum.

Not willing to tag us when spewing your transphobic ideology, Gatsby? ☺️

 

[Gatsby]

Not willing to tag us when spewing your transphobic ideology, Gatsby? ☺️

I think the guilty parties know who they are.