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[Phys251]

I think the guilty parties know who they are.

So you're just going to go after the people standing up to your transphobic agenda.

 

[lwf]

The "cottage industry" consists of exactly the groups of "specialists" who feed off of this new "mental health/medical issue" I listed in my response.

Psychologists and Social workers (who are paid for their evaluation and counseling services), endocrinologists who "specialize in the diagnosis and treatment of hormone related diseases and conditions," and educators like all those teachers and school officials inculcating these ideas in children's heads while under their care in schools.

This is a prime example of the problem with conservatives. They think that they are superior to everyone else. "Even though my neighbors' children went to college for 8 years, studied medicine and neuroscience, dedicated their lives to helping people, and made careers as doctors and psychologists, they aren't conservative, and therefore aren't human and can't be trusted. They probably abuse children for profit, because only people on my team are capable of caring about their children."

 

[Gatsby]

There will always be nuts with fringe ideologies in both parties. And there will always be people from the opposing party who want to focus on these fringe nuts for political gain. And I agree that nut-picking is bad for political discourse, and bad for society for people to have such negative views of the opposite side of the aisle.

But here's the thing: You don't get to complain about Ben Shapiro "exploiting this for political gain" or "associating it with Democrats" or "fueling a culture war" unless you are first willing to agree with him that this is bad. If Democrats aren't willing to do that, then you are just proving his point that he is *right* to associate it with Democrats.

 

[lwf]

I mean...there is a very easy solution to that problem. More Democrats could simply speak up in agreement with Ben Shapiro that this is terrible and wrong and shouldn't have happened, as I do. Then it's no longer associated with Democrats and doesn't fuel fires in anyone's culture war. Just as, say, lobotomies don't have any particular cultural or political coding.

Yes, I agree that it is a terrible wrong for doctors to have performed unnecessary lobotomies in the past. But if you run on a campaign of "preventing unnecessary lobotomies" and support your argument by collecting a bunch of lobotomy horror stories and filling conservative media with them in order to hoover up the votes of the uneducated by scaring the bejesus out of them, then I applaud those who call you on your bullshit.

 

[Captain Adverse]

This is a prime example of the problem with conservatives. They think that they are superior to everyone else. "Even though my neighbors' children went to college for 8 years, studied medicine and neuroscience, dedicated their lives to helping people, and made careers as doctors and psychologists, they aren't conservative, and therefore aren't human and can't be trusted. They probably abuse children for profit."

This is an example of the "prime problem with (insert group here)" projection responses like yours.

Projection. "the attribution of one's own ideas, feelings, or attitudes to other people..." https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/projection

It is also a red herring response.

The young lady in the video pointed out that it was all of those group dynamics which led her to thinking "she" was really a "he." That convinced her to start the "changes" she later regretted.

The fact you did not realize this gives me the impression you did not watch the video, else you would have been privy to her statements to that effect.

 

[Gatsby]

Yes, I agree that it is a terrible wrong for doctors to have performed unnecessary lobotomies in the past. But if you run on a campaign of "preventing unnecessary lobotomies" and support your argument by collecting a bunch of lobotomy horror stories and filling conservative media with them in order to hoover up the votes of the uneducated by scaring the bejesus out of them, then I applaud those who call you on your bullshit.

I'm of the school of thought that there's a small group of diehards (maybe 5-10% on each side of the aisle) that will believe any random bullshit their echo chambers tell them about their political opponents, such as "Liberals support lobotomies, and here are a few examples of nuts who support it." But it's difficult to expand a narrative beyond that small echo chamber unless it has some degree of truth to it. There *are* a lot of liberals who refuse to condemn kids being drugged with hormones and prepped for medical transition to the opposite sex. As this thread demonstrates.

If Democrats want to prevent people from associating them with this ideology, the best approach is to loudly and repeatedly condemn it. If we just don't make Ben Shapiro credible on this subject, the narrative will organically disappear because most people won't believe it.

 

[Phys251]

This is an example of the "prime problem with (insert group here)" projection responses like yours.

Projection. "the attribution of one's own ideas, feelings, or attitudes to other people..." https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/projection

It is also a red herring response.

The young lady in the video pointed out that it was all of those group dynamics which led her to thinking "she" was really a "he." That convinced her to start the "changes" she later regretted.

The fact you did not realize this gives me the impression you did not watch the video, else you would have been privy to her statements to that effect.

Why should anyone watch a video of the loud-mouthed, shit-breathing Ben Shapiro?

 

[buck]

Prove that ROGD is a thing.

I don't have to prove it's "a thing". Simply that it's "not debunked".

I would simply point to experts in the field that do this for a living and have stated they see it in their practice. Some of the quotes have already been posted to this forum... and some of the individuals making the claims are transgendered themselves and supportive of kids transitioning. I would also point (again) to the Academy of National Medicine in France who made mention of it in their press release around issuance of caution.

Even WPATH, a bit of a biased organization, acknowledges it *may* exist. Though they say more peer reviewed research is needed. Very different than Lisa's "it's debunked" claim.

 

[Phys251]

I don't have to prove it's "a thing". Simply that it's not "debunked".

I would simply point to experts in the field that do this for a living and have stated they see it in their practice. Some of the quotes have already been posted to this forum... and some of the individuals making the claims are transgendered themselves and supportive of kids transitioning. I would also point (again) to the Academy of National Medicine in France who made mention of it in their press release around issuance of caution.

Even WPATH, a bit of a biased organization, acknowledges it *may* exist. Though they say more peer reviewed research is needed. Very different than Lisa's "it's debunked" claim.

^ Evidence-free post.

 

[trixare4kids]

Your trolling is dismissed, and the question stands.

Yours is an irrelevant question in light of the fact the poster above is correct.
Btw, since your question was for Captain Adverse, what did he say about it?

Well, there you go...

 

[trixare4kids]

I mean...there is a very easy solution to that problem. More Democrats could simply speak up in agreement with Ben Shapiro that this is terrible and wrong and shouldn't have happened, as I do. Then it's no longer associated with Democrats and doesn't fuel fires in anyone's culture war. Just as, say, lobotomies don't have any particular cultural or political coding.

But there are people in this thread who are defending children being drugged so that they can begin transitioning sex. Two of them call themselves "Progressive" and "Slightly Liberal," and one of them even accused me of being a stealth conservative for NOT supporting it. So it's not like it's completely off base to associate this bizarre ideology with one particular side of the political spectrum.

Yeah, it's called far-wacko

 

[Lisa]

This is at least the 2nd time you have claimed that studies are 'debunked". Your evidence? Blog and opinion posts.

Yet, the studies are still published, were not 'debunked', have been observed in clinical settings and are being used by experts in the field to create policies and treatments (i.e. Academy of National Medicine in France) .

It's really the strangest thing. Anyway, you do you.

There is no such thing as ROGD. It has been debunked and she is discredited. Gender dysphoria is not socially contagious. People/teens are either born trans or they are not. Any idea that they were trans because of a social contagion would mean that they are not trans and this is a maladaptive coping mechanism because of trauma or other condition. The other possibility is that the parents have had their head up their backside and refused to see the actions by their teens of gender incongruence, but nobody is trans because it is popular. That is utter nonsense.

Any teen that suggests that they are trans because of popularity needs a lot more testing before a diagnosis is made so as to not allow the teen to make a mistake. I would look into past trauma and low self-esteem. The should be administered an MMPI personality test. This seems to be more common in AFAB teens and they should not be permitted to start HRT until these issues are fully explored.

This is 4 years ago.

Controversy is exploding around a paper published earlier this month in PLOS ONE by a public health expert at Brown University describing reports by parents that their children suddenly experienced unease with the gender they were assigned at birth; the paper calls the condition "rapid onset gender dysphoria" (ROGD). The paper, by physician-scientist Lisa Littman, is drawing fierce criticism from transgender advocates, who call it antitransgender because it suggests that some cases of gender dysphoria may be "socially contagious." They say the paper has serious methodological flaws, noting that Littman interviewed only parents, not the young people themselves, and recruited from websites frequented by parents who were concerned about their children's apparently sudden gender transitions. Meanwhile, the reactions of Brown and the journal are being assailed by critics who accuse them of caving to political pressure.


On Monday, PLOS ONE announced it is conducting a postpublication investigation of the study's methodology and analysis. "This is not about suppressing academic freedom or scientific research. This is about the scientific content itself—whether there is anything that needs to be looked into or corrected," PLOS ONE Editor-in-Chief Joerg Heber in San Francisco, California, told ScienceInsider in an interview yesterday.


Also on Monday, Brown officials removed the university's press release highlighting the paper from its website. On Tuesday, Bess Marcus, dean of Brown's School of Public Health, wrote in an open statement that the university acted "in light of questions raised about research design and data collection related to the study." She added that people in the Brown community have raised concerns that the study's conclusions "could be used to discredit efforts to support transgender youth and invalidate the perspectives of members of the transgender community."

Science | AAAS

www.science.org

Kids and teens are not old enough to make potentially permanent changes to their bodies. If you aren't even old enough to get a tattoo, you certainly aren't old enough for bizarre hormone "therapies" and getting prepped for cosmetic surgeries.

You don't need a diagnosis from a psychologist and a Drs OK for a tattoo, unlike being diagnosed as transgendered and beginning HRT. But you'd never let facts get in the way of your intellectual dishonesty.

 

[Captain Adverse]

I don't have to prove it's "a thing". Simply that it's "not debunked".

I would simply point to experts in the field that do this for a living and have stated they see it in their practice. Some of the quotes have already been posted to this forum... and some of the individuals making the claims are transgendered themselves and supportive of kids transitioning. I would also point (again) to the Academy of National Medicine in France who made mention of it in their press release around issuance of caution.

Even WPATH, a bit of a biased organization, acknowledges it *may* exist. Though they say more peer reviewed research is needed. Very different than Lisa's "it's debunked" claim.

You are correct, it has not been "debunked" except to the satisfaction of those whose confirmation bias is reinforced.

Meanwhile, the OP video is about a young lady who expressed exactly what led her to a belief she was trans, and how she later came to realize she was NOT. She is not unique.

Sexual Health

Find in-depth articles on men's and women's sexual health information for a happier and healthier sex life.

www.webmd.com

These Transgender Individuals Regret Transitioning | Education News

It’s becoming increasingly common to hear from detransitioners, transgender people who began living as their biological sex again.

www.educationviews.org

Facts don't care about either "feelings" or biased "studies" conducted by those seeking to prove a preconceived notion rather than seeking the truth.

Bottom line, all it takes is ONE example (like in the OP video) to prove that study is false. But as shown, she is clearly not the only one.

 

[Phys251]

You are correct, it has not been "debunked" except to the satisfaction of those whose confirmation bias is reinforced.

Meanwhile, the OP video is about a young lady who expressed exactly what led her to a belief she was trans, and how she later came to realize she was NOT. She is not unique.

Facts don't care about either "feelings" or biased "studies" conducted by those seeking to prove a preconceived notion/bias rather than seeking the truth.

Bottom line, all it takes is ONE example (like in the OP video) to prove that study is false. She is not the only one.

Sexual Health

Find in-depth articles on men's and women's sexual health information for a happier and healthier sex life.

www.webmd.com

These Transgender Individuals Regret Transitioning | Education News

It’s becoming increasingly common to hear from detransitioners, transgender people who began living as their biological sex again.

www.educationviews.org

I refer you back to Post #2, which you dodged.

 

[Lisa]

You are correct, it has not been "debunked" except to the satisfaction of those whose confirmation bias is reinforced.

Meanwhile, the OP video is about a young lady who expressed exactly what led her to a belief she was trans, and how she later came to realize she was NOT. She is not unique.

Sexual Health

Find in-depth articles on men's and women's sexual health information for a happier and healthier sex life.

www.webmd.com

These Transgender Individuals Regret Transitioning | Education News

It’s becoming increasingly common to hear from detransitioners, transgender people who began living as their biological sex again.

www.educationviews.org

Facts don't care about either "feelings" or biased "studies" conducted by those seeking to prove a preconceived notion rather than seeking the truth.

Bottom line, all it takes is ONE example (like in the OP video) to prove that study is false. But as shown, she is clearly not the only one.

Genspect are transphobes. They goy caught advocating for the abolition of gender therapy.

Recorded audio of a Twitter Space from 2021 was released on YouTube last week as part of an ongoing feud between Genspect affiliates and self-proclaimed “gender industry abolitionists” who aim to eliminate all forms of gender affirming care. Within the Space Stella O’Malley, a prominent psychotherapist in Ireland facing allegations of conversion therapy and the director of Genspect (among other groups), reveals that she has made it her life mission to prevent trans youth from accessing any form of gender affirming care. In doing so, she inadvertently confesses to seeking to suppress or change trans youth’s gender identity, the very definition of gender identity change efforts (GICE, i.e. conversion therapy/practices),[1] despite her past denials. The audio proves the legitimacy of the allegations put towards O’Malley by trans people and concerned health professionals and, consequently, the allegations towards Genspect and other organizations or projects she leads or is affiliated with.

Leaked audio confirms Genspect director as anti-trans conversion therapist targeting youth

Content notes: discussion of conversion practices targeting trans youth, pedophilia, transfemicide, sexual assault/rape, mass infanticide, and forced adoption/human trafficking of children. Include…

healthliberationnow.com

The Alliance Defending Freedom is a radical conservative religious mouthpiece.

Founded by some 30 leaders of the Christian Right, the Alliance Defending Freedom is a legal advocacy and training group that has supported the recriminalization of sexual acts between consenting LGBTQ adults in the U.S. and criminalization abroad; has defended state-sanctioned sterilization of trans people abroad; has contended that LGBTQ people are more likely to engage in pedophilia; and claims that a “homosexual agenda” will destroy Christianity and society. ADF also works to develop “religious liberty” legislation and case law that will allow the denial of goods and services to LGBTQ people on the basis of religion. Since the election of President Trump, ADF has become one of the most influential groups informing the administration’s attack on LGBTQ rights.

Alliance Defending Freedom

Founded by some 30 leaders of the Christian Right, the Alliance Defending Freedom is a legal advocacy and training group that has supported the recriminalization of sexual acts between consenting LGBTQ adults in the U.S. and criminalization abroad; has defended state-sanctioned sterilization of...

www.splcenter.org

The Wisconsin Institute of Law and Liberty is another conservative mouthpiece,

The Wisconsin Institute for Law & Liberty is a conservative, libertarian public interest law firm, based in Milwaukee, that initiates legal actions on a range of public issues. Rick Esenberg was named president and general council of the 501(c)(3) organization, which gets financial backing from the Milwaukee-based Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation. As the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported: "The institute has entered the fray on a range of cases, from Act 10, the legislation that curtailed collective bargaining in Wisconsin for most public sector workers, to voter identification to the proposed Milwaukee streetcar project. In each case, the institute took the conservative side on the issue."

PolitiFact | Wisconsin Institute for Law & Liberty

PolitiFact is a fact-checking website that rates the accuracy of claims by elected officials and others on its Truth-O-Meter.

www.politifact.com

 

[lwf]

This is an example of the "prime problem with (insert group here)" projection responses like yours.

Projection. "the attribution of one's own ideas, feelings, or attitudes to other people..." https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/projection

It is also a red herring response.

The young lady in the video pointed out that it was all of those group dynamics which led her to thinking "she" was really a "he." That convinced her to start the "changes" she later regretted.

The fact you did not realize this gives me the impression you did not watch the video, else you would have been privy to her statements to that effect.

I was referring to your assumption about the "cottage industry" of medical professionals preying on children for profit. America doesn't have a problem of medical professionals preying on children. That it happens on rare occasion does not mean that there is threat that needs to be dealt with by putting the care of children into the hands of conservative politicians rather than medical professionals. Conservative politicians have a much worse track record on that lately.

 

[lwf]

I'm of the school of thought that there's a small group of diehards (maybe 5-10% on each side of the aisle) that will believe any random bullshit their echo chambers tell them about their political opponents, such as "Liberals support lobotomies, and here are a few examples of nuts who support it." But it's difficult to expand a narrative beyond that small echo chamber unless it has some degree of truth to it. There *are* a lot of liberals who refuse to condemn kids being drugged with hormones and prepped for medical transition to the opposite sex. As this thread demonstrates.

If Democrats want to prevent people from associating them with this ideology, the best approach is to loudly and repeatedly condemn it. If we just don't make Ben Shapiro credible on this subject, the narrative will organically disappear because most people won't believe it.

I think the number is a little bit higher on the conservative side, but I agree that joining those who loudly condemn the horror stories that politicians are using to gin up fear, and thereby votes, isn't a bad practice. My only fear is that participating in this loud condemnation might fan the flames of the dangerous narrative that these horror stories are an imminent and serious threat to Americans that needs this particular politician to protect us from. The argument is set up in such a way that there is an implication that if you agree with the condemnation, that you must be in favor of this politician or this law that seeks to create new laws to prevent these horror stories.

 

[Gatsby]

People/teens are either born trans or they are not.

Well then, the one in the video apparently was not. And yet she was cleared to start down this path anyway. Curious.

Any idea that they were trans because of a social contagion would mean that they are not trans and this is a maladaptive coping mechanism because of trauma or other condition.

And how would you distinguish these kids who have a "maladaptive coping mechanism" from the ones who are supposedly "born trans"? What does it even mean to be "born trans"? The whole point is transitioning from one's birth sex to the opposite sex. This girl did that.

The other possibility is that the parents have had their head up their backside and refused to see the actions by their teens of gender incongruence,

And here we see the sexism and homophobia in the radical transgender movement. "Refused to see the actions of gender incongruence." How about you just leave them the hell alone instead of trying to force them to conform to your gender stereotypes? Stop trying to medicalize boys who would rather play with dolls than footballs. Stop trying to convince girls who like girls that they must actually be boys.

You don't need a diagnosis from a psychologist and a Drs OK for a tattoo, unlike being diagnosed as transgendered and beginning HRT. But you'd never let facts get in the way of your intellectual dishonesty.

Well apparently these psychologists and doctors made a mistake with this girl, yes?

 

[Lisa]

Well then, the one in the video apparently was not. And yet she was cleared to start down this path anyway. Curious.


And how would you distinguish these kids who have a "maladaptive coping mechanism" from the ones who are supposedly "born trans"? What does it even mean to be "born trans"? The whole point is transitioning from one's birth sex to the opposite sex. This girl did that.

It seems that she was looking for something that was not part of transitioning. her Drs/psychologists made a horrible mistake if she had a medical diagnosis instead of a self-diagnosis.

And here we see the sexism and homophobia in the radical transgender movement. "Refused to see the actions of gender incongruence." How about you just leave them the hell alone instead of trying to force them to conform to your gender stereotypes? Stop trying to medicalize boys who would rather play with dolls than footballs. Stop trying to convince girls who like girls that they must actually be boys.

What sexism are you referring to? About half of trans people are also homosexual or bisexual, so there is no homophobia is the transgendered community. Nobody is searching out teens to be trans. Those teens express feelings of dysphoria and that is when they first meet with a psychologist to start the process of a diagnosis. There is no gender stereotype. Bigender and gender-fluid would not exist if there was a rigid stereotype. Nobody is medicalizing anyone,. so stop using terms that you don't understand. People can be whomever they want to be. This is where you get it so very wrong. Your idea that Drs try to start boys who might be effeminate ior girls that are tomboys on HRT against their will is so laughably wrong to be absurd.

Well apparently these psychologists and doctors made a mistake with this girl, yes?

It would seem that they did in their case if the patient told the Drs the truth about their feelings. That is malpractice. That is investigated and prosecuted on a case-by-case basis instead of your idea of using those situations to deny other teens who might legitimately be trans the effective transgender therapy that they need. Why do conservatives think it's healthy or pragmatic to deny a teen effective transgender care but possible to allow them to do the same when they turn 18? You seem to be convinced that gender clinics are some sort of Frankenstein concept, unlike the truth.

 

[Gatsby]

It seems that she was looking for something that was not part of transitioning. her Drs/psychologists made a horrible mistake if she had a medical diagnosis instead of a self-diagnosis.

Indeed.

What sexism are you referring to?

Blaming parents for "refusing to see gender incongruence." As though anyone who deviates from your rigid gender stereotypes has something wrong with them and needs medical intervention.

About half of trans people are also homosexual or bisexual, so there is no homophobia is the transgendered community.

An utterly laughable assertion.

Nobody is searching out teens to be trans. Those teens express feelings of dysphoria and that is when they first meet with a psychologist to start the process of a diagnosis.

And apparently that doesn't work since you've managed to convince so many kids they're transgender. Or in your lingo, because there are so many kids with a "maladaptive coping mechanism."

There is no gender stereotype. Bigender and gender-fluid would not exist if there was a rigid stereotype. Nobody is medicalizing anyone,. so stop using terms that you don't understand. People can be whomever they want to be.

Yeah, we used to call "genderfluid" androgynous, and it's just a personal style, not a goddamn civil rights movement. If kids want to dress like Prince and tell their friends they're genderfluid, go for it. That's not the same as taking a bunch of drugs or having surgery to try to change your body.

This is where you get it so very wrong. Your idea that Drs try to start boys who might be effeminate ior girls that are tomboys on HRT against their will is so laughably wrong to be absurd.

If they are under 18, it is definitionally against their will, because they are incapable of consent.

Why do conservatives think it's healthy or pragmatic to deny a teen effective transgender care but possible to allow them to do the same when they turn 18?

I don't think people of any age should cut their dicks off, but then, I don't see the appeal of full-body tattoos or butthole piercings either. If someone is an adult they can do what they want with their bodies, regardless of my opinion.

You seem to be convinced that gender clinics are some sort of Frankenstein concept

Yes, that is a pretty accurate description of my view.

 

[Lisa]

Indeed.

Blaming parents for "refusing to see gender incongruence." As though anyone who deviates from your rigid gender stereotypes has something wrong with them and needs medical intervention.

An utterly laughable assertion.

And apparently that doesn't work since you've managed to convince so many kids they're transgender. Or in your lingo, because there are so many kids with a "maladaptive coping mechanism."

Yeah, we used to call "genderfluid" androgynous, and it's just a personal style, not a goddamn civil rights movement. If kids want to dress like Prince and tell their friends they're genderfluid, go for it. That's not the same as taking a bunch of drugs or having surgery to try to change your body.

If they are under 18, it is definitionally against their will, because they are incapable of consent.

I don't think people of any age should cut their dicks off, but then I don't see the appeal of full-body tattoos either. If someone is an adult they can do what they want with their bodies regardless of my opinion.

Yes, that is a pretty accurate description of my view.

The parents have nothing to do with it. Who told you that they did? This is not the parent's choice.

Trans people are not homophobic, except in the very rare situation of conservative religious trans people and they tend to get called out as hypocrites. There are still many LGB people who refuse to support trans people and think that trans people are not to be included as part of the wider LGBcoimmuhnity. This was a much more common idea in the late 1980s and 1990s.

bigender and gender-fluid face the same civil rights abuses as trans people face, just as bisexuals faced the same civil rights problems that gay people experienced. It's all part of a wider community.

If trans teens are not capable of understanding and giving consent then they have a severe developmental issue. That is not normal for a 12-16 years old teen who understands and can accurately explain their feelings. They are not puppets. I now wonder how ignorant or maybe you have developmental problems as a teen. How can a teen learn to drive and have the ability to make decisions with a 4000lb car if they cant understand consent and the cause/effects of their decisions?

 

[Gatsby]

If trans teens are not capable of understanding and giving consent then they have a severe developmental issue. That is not normal for a 12-16 years old teen who understands and can accurately explain their feelings. They are not puppets. I now wonder how ignorant or maybe you have developmental problems as a teen. How can a teen learn to drive and have the ability to make decisions with a 4000lb car if they cant understand consent and the cause/effects of their decisions?

I'm going to be very careful here, because there is one particular person who likes to lurk in these threads and sends me annoying messages when I make this obvious point. So my apologies for being indirect.

Can you think of any parallel situations where "12-year-olds can express their feelings, and therefore are old enough to consent" might not be the best attitude for society to adopt? How about "Old enough to drive, old enough to consent to do things with their genitals?" Any situations where that logic seems creepy to you?

 

[Lisa]

I'm going to be very careful here, because there is one particular person who likes to lurk in these threads and sends me annoying messages when I make this obvious point. So my apologies for being indirect.

Can you think of any parallel situations where "12-year-olds can express their feelings, and therefore are old enough to consent" might not be the best attitude for society to adopt? How about "Old enough to drive, old enough to consent to do things with their genitals?" Any situations where that logic seems creepy to you?

A 12-year-old doesn't consent to surgery. They can't even start blockers or HRT in the US until 14-16. That is after 90 days to 6 months of diagnosis and detailed history with a psychologist. The surgery is 17-18 years old after 2 years of following and HRT.

A person's genital is a very small part of being transgendered, so stop focusing on it. You're giving me the creeps.

 

[buck]

You are correct, it has not been "debunked" except to the satisfaction of those whose confirmation bias is reinforced.

Meanwhile, the OP video is about a young lady who expressed exactly what led her to a belief she was trans, and how she later came to realize she was NOT. She is not unique.

Of course it hasn't debunked. It's why Lisa has to rely on blog posts. There are many stories like helenas.

But it turns out they were not "really trans" after starting the transition process... which, to lisa, apparently means rogd doesn't exist? I don't know, her post was quite odd.

 

[Lisa]

Of course it hasn't debunked. It's why Lisa has to rely on blog posts. There are many stories like helenas.

But it turns out they were not "really trans" after starting the transition process... which, to lisa, apparently means rogd doesn't exist? I don't know, her post was quite odd.

If they already started transition and discovered it wasn't for them then they weren't trans. ROGD doest happen. They were not CIS until they suddenly became trans in their teens because of peer pressure, as ROGD postulates. People are born trans and it is caused by a hormone flush between the 11th and 15th week of gestation. Why it happens is still not understood.

How much longer will it be for you to get behind Ray Blanchard's and Anne Lawerene's nonsense? Why have your transphobic sources mentioned those buffoons?

If you are going to reply to me then reply to my post instead of responding to my posts to someone in a reply to someone else.