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Gretchen Whitmer vetoes three voter ID bills meant to tighten election security

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Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer vetoed three bills Friday aimed at tightening voter ID laws in the highly competitive state.

Whitmer, a Democrat, said the trio of GOP-backed bills would have made it harder for people without state IDs to vote in the elections and that they largely affected people of color.
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Gretchen Whitmer vetoes three voter ID bills meant to tighten election security - Washington Examiner

Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer vetoed three bills Friday aimed at tightening voter ID laws in the highly competitive state. Whitmer, a Democrat, said the trio of GOP-backed bills would have made it harder for people without state IDs to vote in the elections and that they largely affected people...
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annata said:
voter ID is popular among minorities as well . They only reason to oppose it it to oppose election security
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That’s simplistic. Voter ID conceptually is a good idea but what really is how it’s implemented.

That goes for just about everything in life. There’s the idea and how it’s put into practice. The former can be good and the latter horrible.
 
j brown's body said:
If they want voter ID, they should pass a law compelling the state to assure that every voter has one.
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That would not satisfy the opposition, they would simply assert that obtaining any required supporting document(s) imposes a discriminatory burden.
 
Of course, she vetoed it.

She's a Dem.

They do not believe in squeaky-clean elections.

And they always resort to crocodile tears about how hard it supposedly is for certain folks to vote.
 
I absolutely support voter ID however not when options are so narrow that it becomes punitive. Voting can be both safe and easy. They are not mutually exclusive. The GOP wants elections to be safe and hard......but only for some.
 
BlueTex said:
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Why is the disparate impact argument only considered valid when it benefits non-white folks? Why is this disparate impact argument not used to ‘prove’ that having a (clearly regressive) state sales tax creates a situation where non-whites pay a larger percentage of their income in such taxes?
 
annata said:
Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer vetoed three bills Friday aimed at tightening voter ID laws in the highly competitive state.

Whitmer, a Democrat, said the trio of GOP-backed bills would have made it harder for people without state IDs to vote in the elections and that they largely affected people of color.
www.washingtonexaminer.com

Gretchen Whitmer vetoes three voter ID bills meant to tighten election security - Washington Examiner

Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer vetoed three bills Friday aimed at tightening voter ID laws in the highly competitive state. Whitmer, a Democrat, said the trio of GOP-backed bills would have made it harder for people without state IDs to vote in the elections and that they largely affected people...
www.washingtonexaminer.com www.washingtonexaminer.com
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Who says they're to "tighten election security"?

A Trumpist? One of the people who tried to steal the last election and when they failed, accused everyone else of it, then staged a literal coup attempt? Those people?

:LOL:
 
It was probably another Republican attempt at voter suppression.
 
annata said:
voter ID is popular among minorities as well . They only reason to oppose it it to oppose election security
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Actually, they get tired of harassment hoops being thrown up at every opportunity.

Republicans have been crying wolf, oh wait, fraud, for decades.

They never find squat. Which they tell you means they need more restrictions. Because lack of evidence is evidence of fraud.

These laws are.all.like the guy on the bus in Indiana throwing little.bits of paper.out the window every mile.or so. Who when asked what he's doing says he's keeping the elephants away. And when the questioner points out there are no elephants outside of zoos in thousands of miles, he replies "See how well it works!"

And they pass new laws to keep fraud away. And when reminded they have no evidence of fraud, they cry "We need to be sure.".

Sure they cannot lose. And if they do their legislatures can just say "nuh-uh" and send Republican electors anyway.

It isn't about fraud anyway, at this point in time. When they have to go before actual courts and not the court of manipulated opinion, they point to things done to address the pandemic that led to extremely high turnout and simply claim it.could have led to fraud, without a scrap of evidence that it did.

Trump himself said it out loud. That mass mail in voting meant people who normally are too lazy to vote would vote and that if everybody voted republicans would never win another election
And he isn't the only one who said the quiet part out loud.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Why is the disparate impact argument only considered valid when it benefits non-white folks
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The Dems do themselves no favour when they brand it that way. It should framed around low ncmenot black. Just so happens in Michigan as well as States like Georgia the poor tend to be black urban dwellers.
 
Mr Person said:
A Trumpist? One of the people who tried to steal the last election and when they failed, accused everyone else of it, then staged a literal coup attempt?
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Anne brother! Republicans scream election integrity and then are non-apologetic about some of the most egregious attempts to disrupt democracy. RW leadership and RW media know this yet push the big lie and rewrite the facts around Jan 6th and the bobbleheads bobble. Those who complain about control are themselves the most controlled
 
Callen said:
The Dems do themselves no favour when they brand it that way. It should framed around low ncmenot black. Just so happens in Michigan as well as States like Georgia the poor tend to be black urban dwellers.
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My point is that this argument is used very selectively. Why aren’t all (state issued, photo) ID requirement laws said to impose this ‘discriminatory burden’? Shouldn’t that make the federal REAL ID act and NICS BGC laws objectionable due to their ‘disparate impact’?
 
annata said:
Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer vetoed three bills Friday aimed at tightening voter ID laws in the highly competitive state.

Whitmer, a Democrat, said the trio of GOP-backed bills would have made it harder for people without state IDs to vote in the elections and that they largely affected people of color.
www.washingtonexaminer.com

Gretchen Whitmer vetoes three voter ID bills meant to tighten election security - Washington Examiner

Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer vetoed three bills Friday aimed at tightening voter ID laws in the highly competitive state. Whitmer, a Democrat, said the trio of GOP-backed bills would have made it harder for people without state IDs to vote in the elections and that they largely affected people...
www.washingtonexaminer.com www.washingtonexaminer.com
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question: just how many people don't have state ideas? Nearly every demographic, including the coveted african american community, uses state ID's. What demographic DOESN'T use state ID's?
 
Callen said:
Just out of curiosity what photo ID is readily available at no cost? All our photo ID's have some sort of fee attached and it' s not $5.
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Voting Without Photo ID

If you do not have photo ID, you can still cast a ballot simply by signing an affidavit. The affidavit can be used by:

  • Voters who do not have acceptable photo ID
  • Voters who have photo ID but didn't bring it to the polls
Once you sign the affidavit, you may cast your ballot. It will be counted with all other ballots on Election Day.

Getting a State ID Card

If you do not have a driver's license or other acceptable photo identification, you can get a state identification card at your local Secretary of State branch office for $10.

State ID cards are free to individuals who are 65 or older or who are blind. Cards are also free to those who have had driving privileges terminated due to a physical or mental disability. The fee can also be waived for individuals who present other good cause for a fee waiver.

Proof of identity and residency are required when applying for a state ID card. Visit www.Michigan.gov/sos for details on what forms are acceptable in order to prove identity and residency, or call (888) SOS-MICH (767-6424).

Reference Guide: Quick Reference to Voter Identification Requirements
www.michigan.gov

A Guide to Voter ID/Affidavit at the Polls

www.michigan.gov www.michigan.gov
 
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