Greg Gutfeld (on Muslim Marine)

[Goshin]

But we aren't comparing christian pedophilia to ALL pedophilia. We are comparing christian atrocities to muslim atrocities. Furthermore, the #'s you cite for the general population include a vast number of christians. All you accomplished with that argument is that you have identified another large number of people who have been victimized by christian pedophiles



If I had falsely claimed that christian pedophila was limited to just a few dozen clergymen (as you did), I wouldn't be advising others about maintaining credibility.

If I had immorally dismissed the rape of thousands and thousands of children as a "mouse" (as you did), I wouldn't be advising others about maintaining credibility.

However, while I wouldnt do it, it's clear that some will accuse others of losing their credibility to hide their own ridiculous claims.

:no: Prove Christianity was the cause of the pedophilia, rather than just the general wickedness of a certain percentage of the general population, and you might have a point. As it is, you're so far out of the ballpark you can't even see first base from where you are.

Thanks for playing, you can collect your condolence prize on your way out....

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

:no: Prove Christianity was the cause of the pedophilia, rather than just the general wickedness of a certain percentage of the general population, and you might have a point. As it is, you're so far out of the ballpark you can't even see first base from where you are.

Thanks for playing, you can collect your condolence prize on your way out....

I love it when folks attempt to prove that any religion is the CAUSE of any action. It is the individual's interpretation or perception of that religion and those tenets that cause the action to occur, not the religion itself. Since we know that no everyone who follows a religion follows it the same way, believes the same thing, or interprets things the same way, we know that it is the responsibility of the individual and the spin that they put on the religious beliefs that cause the problem. This is why the villification of any overall religion will always fail.

 

[sangha]

I would hope that you are not trying to claim any causational affect between Christianity and pedophila. Because if you are, you will fail miserably. Correlation does not equal causation. That is a Cum hoc ergo propter hoc logical fallacy.

And I would hope you could find a better method of debate besides reading things that aren't there

But maybe you could explain why it's worse to kill someone for religious reasons that for non-religious reasons. Dead is dead. IMO, it takes a lot of depravity to defend murder when it's not done for religious reasons.

 

[sangha]

:no: Prove Christianity was the cause of the pedophilia, rather than just the general wickedness of a certain percentage of the general population, and you might have a point. As it is, you're so far out of the ballpark you can't even see first base from where you are.

Thanks for playing, you can collect your condolence prize on your way out....

Once again, it is depraved to defend murder because the motive was non-religious

 

[sangha]

I love it when folks attempt to prove that any religion is the CAUSE of any action. .

And I love it when folks have to pretend that an argument was made (when it wasn't) in order to have something to say.

 

[Nanten Janubi]

I don't get the OP's point. We know there's Islamic extremists in the world that want to attack the West. Okay? Thank you for the heads up?

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

And I would hope you could find a better method of debate besides reading things that aren't there

Which is why I questioned you. So, if you are not attempting to prove causation, you have no point. Good to know.

But maybe you could explain why it's worse to kill someone for religious reasons that for non-religious reasons. Dead is dead. IMO, it takes a lot of depravity to defend murder when it's not done for religious reasons.

Ah. Straw man argument. You still have no point. Good to know.

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

And I love it when folks have to pretend that an argument was made (when it wasn't) in order to have something to say.

And I love it when people think that I am talking about them when I am not. Others have made that idiotic point in the past. I questioned whether you did in another post... and you have since said that is not what you are saying. Try to pay attention to what folks are actually saying.

 

[sangha]

Which is why I questioned you. So, if you are not attempting to prove causation, you have no point. Good to know.

I have re-read the posts, and I see you're right. You didn't accuse me of saying xtianity is the cause. I was thrown off by your argreement with post#51 which does accuse me of making that argument.


In which case, I'll just hope you aren't being disingenous about your intent.

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

I have re-read the posts, and I see you're right. You didn't accuse me of saying xtianity is the cause. I was thrown off by your argreement with post#51 which does accuse me of making that argument.

Post #51 seems to be a follow up to my post. Goshin asks you to prove caustion. You have already stated that you are not claiming causation, so the point is moot. My question is, if you are not trying to prove causation, what ARE you trying to show?

In which case, I'll just hope you aren't being disingenous about your intent.

Never. Just trying to figure out where you are coming from and what you are trying to present.

 

[sangha]

Post #51 seems to be a follow up to my post.

No, it was a response to my post. It even quotes me

Goshin asks you to prove caustion. You have already stated that you are not claiming causation, so the point is moot. My question is, if you are not trying to prove causation, what ARE you trying to show?

That there are more than a "few dozen priests" who have molested children (it was hundreds), and that pedophilia is not a small problem and therefore should not be described as a "mouse" in order to minimize it. I also think that christians who want to criticize other religions and people who believe in those religions should probably pay more attention to the biblical injunction concerning motes and beams.

Never. Just trying to figure out where you are coming from and what you are trying to present.

Glad to hear it

 

[CatholicCrusadr]

............I like Islam......

So do you cover you wife to hide her face from the public?
I have a feeling most women around the world who have been subjugated by Islamo-Fascists and seen their fellow women stoned to death by Muslims do not share your love of Islam.

But, hey, what do I know: Maybe you like that stuff.

 

[Singularity]

So do you cover you wife to hide her face from the public?
I have a feeling most women around the world who have been subjugated by Islamo-Fascists and seen their fellow women stoned to death by Muslims do not share your love of Islam.

But, hey, what do I know: Maybe you like that stuff.

The next time you wish to engage in posting ultrapartisan or hyperreligious stupidity, please use the full quote. I'm an atheist, not a Muslim.

You're welcome.

 

[CatholicCrusadr]

The next time you wish to engage in posting ultrapartisan or hyperreligious stupidity, please use the full quote. I'm an atheist, not a Muslim.

You're welcome.

An atheist who loves Islamo-Fascists.
If I were you I would not toss the word "stupidity" around too much.

 

[Travelsonic]

An atheist who loves Islamo-Fascists.

No, probably more like he's an athiest who doesn't have his head up his ass, and can distinguish between radicals and non-radicsls.

If I were you I would not toss the word "stupidity" around too much.

Coming from somebody who confuses liking a religion with practicing it [not mutually inclusive don't you know], then confusing that with supporting those who radicalize that ideology.... the irony is so thick that I bent my knife trying to cut it.

 

[Singularity]

An atheist who loves Islamo-Fascists.
If I were you I would not toss the word "stupidity" around too much.

I don't love Islamofascists. Since you've obviously read my posts, I guess that means you are just failing to comprehend them. Given that, hopefully you'll consider the second sentence in your quote as your guideline for any future posts on this forum.

 

[CatholicCrusadr]

An atheist who loves Islamo-Fascists.
If I were you I would not toss the word "stupidity" around too much.

I don't love Islamofascists...<SNIP>

Yes, my mistake. You "LIKE" Islam-Fascists: http://www.debatepolitics.com/gener...lim-marine-post1059613280.html#post1059613280

You like a religion that mutilates its women and degrades them. It was "Gays" that you love. I apologize for the error regarding the minutia of a stupendously ridiculous post.

 

[Travelsonic]

Your blatant trolling will cost you dearly, CC.

How can you act so un-Christian like and have a user name like that? Ironic, pathetic, and sad..

 

[Singularity]

Yes, my mistake. You "LIKE" Islam-Fascists: http://www.debatepolitics.com/gener...lim-marine-post1059613280.html#post1059613280

You like a religion that mutilates its women and degrades them. It was "Gays" that you love. I apologize for the error regarding the minutia of a stupendously ridiculous post.

I said I like Islam, not "Islam-Fascists". Perhaps you should consider actually reading my posts instead of focusing on saving face, or twisting my words around to support your own silly argument. This way, you can become a productive and successful poster on this forum.

And I accept your apology, as well as your concession.

 

[Khayembii Communique]

I'm really not looking to start another Islam vs Christianity thing (Lord knows I'm tired of it), but I keep running into these fireworks vs nukes comparisons. You don't really consider those three things above to be equivalent in any fashion do you?

Well, we could talk about the terrorist that murdered Dr. Tiller. Or the terrorists who are throwing women in jail that have stillbirths. Or the terrorists in the FLDS. Or the terrorists that killed Matthew Shepard.

There is a much stronger and more pronounced tradition of terrorism based on Christianity in this country than that based on Islam. The only reason everyone ignores it is because it's not defined as such, we're used to living with it and it is less "sensational" than flying a plane into a building (which was based entirely on a crusade against the US for Middle Eastern geopolitics and not because of "Islam" or whatever the hell that means).

 

[CatholicCrusadr]

Your blatant trolling will cost you dearly, CC...........

Really? I am barbequing today. Are you going to stop me? LOL You can't cost me squat.
If you think an online forum is "dear" to you then you have some priorirty problems.

Here is a crazy idea: Consider whether what I said was rigtht or wrong. HOOOO... "right & wrong", a whole new concept for a Lefty

 

[CatholicCrusadr]

I said I like Islam, not "Islam-Fascists".........

No difference

 

[Singularity]

Really? I am barbequing today. Are you going to stop me? LOL You can't cost me squat.
If you think an online forum is "dear" to you then you have some priorirty problems.

Here is a crazy idea: Consider whether what I said was rigtht or wrong. HOOOO... "right & wrong", a whole new concept for a Lefty

Are you facerolling this thread? If not, you should probably consider it. Your posts would probably make more sense.

 

[Singularity]

No difference

Better check the grill. I think you accidentally barbequed a few books.

 

[ecofarm]

I think Goshin got trolled. I have no idea (I'm not reading all that crap) how he could have responded (extensively) to such (extensive) nonsense.

Some are = they support? One did = they do? Nonsense of a lowest order.


ps. What does facerolling mean? Maybe I don't wanna know.