Government shutdown based on a lie: "We are moving to block an estimated 1.4 million illegal aliens from receiving American tax-payer Medicaid"!

[Luckyone]

The Government has shut down and that is because the Democrats and Republicans failed to come to a compromise on Trump's "Big Beautiful Bill". The democrats are against the bill because they have stated (with good reason) that the bill will take away Medicare and Medicaid from approximately 5 million Americans.

The Republicans have stated "We are moving to block an estimated 1.4 million illegal aliens from receiving American tax-payer Medicaid"!

That statement is based on lies!

Factchecking The White House “Mythbuster” on Medicaid Cuts and Immigrants​

On June 2, 2025, The White House posted a “Mythbuster” fact sheet in defense of the House-passed reconciliation bill. However, the sheet is full of inaccuracies and advances more myths than facts—too many to cover in just one blog. This blog will focus on one prominent false claim, namely that 1.4 million undocumented immigrants will be removed from Medicaid. (And there’s some incredible irony here, too.)

The White House fact sheet says that, under the House bill, Medicaid will better serve the American people “by removing at least 1.4 million illegal immigrants from the program.” This is unequivocally false.

As we have covered previously, comprehensive Medicaid coverage is not available to undocumented immigrants. The 1.4 million immigrants the White House presumably refers to are immigrants who will lose coverage due to reductions in state health care programs, funded by states and not by federal Medicaid dollars.

Trump supporters believe that lie to the nth degree

This is what is happening:

 

[iliveonramen]

This administration and the lies that come from it gets worse and worse.

 

[Cosmo]

It says right on government websites that illegals can get Medicaid.

Immigrants - OCHIA

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

"It's true!"

---Reminds me of "the production meeting" in the Kevin Bacon movie "The Big Picture".
At the one minute mark in the clip, you hear the corporate lackey mouth The Big Lie...."It's true."



There is NO SUCH THING as projectors that can't work with black and white.

 

[Luckyone]

It says right on government websites that illegals can get Medicaid.

Immigrants - OCHIA

Links please!

 

[j brown's body]

The most crazy and troubling thing about his whole matter is that we are reminded yet again that the right-wing just wants people to die.

 

[Cosmo]

Links please!

You just quoted the link.

Here's another one:

https://www.dhcs.ca.gov/keep-your-Medi-Cal/Pages/Medi-Cal-Immigrant-Eligibility-FAQs.aspx

 

[NolanVoyd]

It says right on government websites that illegals can get Medicaid.

Immigrants - OCHIA

This explai6ns it.

Undocumented immigrants are ineligible for comprehensive Medicaid coverage under federal law. However, they may qualify for limited emergency services paid for by Medicaid and, in certain states, are eligible for broader state-funded health programs.
Limited federal coverage
Under federal law, undocumented immigrants are not eligible for federal health benefits like standard Medicaid, Medicare, or to purchase subsidized plans through the Affordable Care Act (ACA) marketplaces.
However, they are entitled to the following limited services:

• Emergency medical care: All hospitals that accept Medicare must provide stabilizing treatment for emergency medical conditions, including labor and delivery, regardless of a patient's immigration status or ability to pay. Medicaid funds may be used to reimburse the hospital for this emergency care.
• Other safety-net care: Immigrants can access other forms of care, such as free or low-cost services, through federally qualified health centers (FQHCs), public hospitals, and other safety-net providers.

State-funded coverage
Some states use their own funds to provide health coverage to undocumented immigrants who meet income requirements. Eligibility varies by state and can change due to new legislation or budget constraints.

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[Cosmo]

This explai6ns it.

Undocumented immigrants are ineligible for comprehensive Medicaid coverage under federal law. However, they may qualify for limited emergency services paid for by Medicaid and, in certain states, are eligible for broader state-funded health programs.
Limited federal coverage
Under federal law, undocumented immigrants are not eligible for federal health benefits like standard Medicaid, Medicare, or to purchase subsidized plans through the Affordable Care Act (ACA) marketplaces.
However, they are entitled to the following limited services:

• Emergency medical care: All hospitals that accept Medicare must provide stabilizing treatment for emergency medical conditions, including labor and delivery, regardless of a patient's immigration status or ability to pay. Medicaid funds may be used to reimburse the hospital for this emergency care.
• Other safety-net care: Immigrants can access other forms of care, such as free or low-cost services, through federally qualified health centers (FQHCs), public hospitals, and other safety-net providers.

State-funded coverage
Some states use their own funds to provide health coverage to undocumented immigrants who meet income requirements. Eligibility varies by state and can change due to new legislation or budget constraints.

Google Search

Is there a point to your post? Helping out people who can't click on a link to a short webpage?

 

[NolanVoyd]

Is there a point to your post? Helping out people who can't click on a link to a short webpage?

Clarification.

 

[Cosmo]

Clarification.

Cool! Just as long as we're in agreement that illegals getting taxpayer-funded Medicaid is a problem.

 

[NolanVoyd]

Cool! Just as long as we're in agreement that illegals getting taxpayer-funded Medicaid is a problem.

Its a state issue.

We are talking about the federal government shut down.......illegals dont get federally funded medicaid......so what the states do has nothing to do with the subject of the thread.

 

[KingLeo]

It says right on government websites that illegals can get Medicaid.

Immigrants - OCHIA

The site you post is for the state of New York and deals with immigrants.
It seems you erroneously equate all immigrants with illegals.

 

[dmpi]

One party doesn't even let people count illegals but somehow they're all knowing even without counting.

 

[Cosmo]

Its a state issue.

We are talking about the federal government shut down.......illegals dont get federally funded medicaid......so what the states do has nothing to do with the subject of the thread.

False. It says so right on New York State's website:

Medicaid

Medicaid is a health insurance program jointly funded by the federal government and the states; in New York, counties and the City of New York also make contributions to the program.

www.osc.ny.gov

Medicaid is a health insurance program jointly funded by the federal government and the states

Your "Under federal law" claim is cute, but it's not really relevant since NYC admits "Your immigration status won't be shared with federal immigration authorities." Other States figured out how to do this as well.

California Improperly Claimed $52.7 Million in Federal Medicaid Reimbursement for Capitation Payments Made on Behalf of Noncitizens With Unsatisfactory Immigration Status

oig.hhs.gov

The site you post is for the state of New York and deals with immigrants.
It seems you erroneously equate all immigrants with illegals.

If you had given your complete dedication to remaining clueless on this matter a short break and clicked on the link, you'd have noticed that:

1. It's actually a link to New York City's website.
2. It specifically discusses benefits for the undocumented.

 

[NolanVoyd]

False. It says so right on New York State's website:

Medicaid

Medicaid is a health insurance program jointly funded by the federal government and the states; in New York, counties and the City of New York also make contributions to the program.

www.osc.ny.gov

Your "Under federal law" claim is cute, but it's not really relevant since NYC admits "Your immigration status won't be shared with federal immigration authorities." Other States figured out how to do this as well.

California Improperly Claimed $52.7 Million in Federal Medicaid Reimbursement for Capitation Payments Made on Behalf of Noncitizens With Unsatisfactory Immigration Status

oig.hhs.gov

If you had given your complete dedication to remaining clueless on this matter a short break and clicked on the link, you'd have noticed that:

1. It's actually a link to New York City's website.
2. It specifically discusses benefits for the undocumented.

You didnt read my post. Here you go again.

Undocumented immigrants are ineligible for comprehensive Medicaid coverage under federal law. However, they may qualify for limited emergency services paid for by Medicaid and, in certain states, are eligible for broader state-funded health programs.
Limited federal coverage
Under federal law, undocumented immigrants are not eligible for federal health benefits like standard Medicaid, Medicare, or to purchase subsidized plans through the Affordable Care Act (ACA) marketplaces.
However, they are entitled to the following limited services:

• Emergency medical care: All hospitals that accept Medicare must provide stabilizing treatment for emergency medical conditions, including labor and delivery, regardless of a patient's immigration status or ability to pay. Medicaid funds may be used to reimburse the hospital for this emergency care.

State-funded coverage
Some states use their own funds to provide health coverage to undocumented immigrants who meet income requirements. Eligibility varies by state and can change due to new legislation or budget constraints.

 

[Deuce]

It says right on government websites that illegals can get Medicaid.

Immigrants - OCHIA

And?

What, do you want hospitals to just let people die?

 

[KingLeo]

False. It says so right on New York State's website:

Medicaid

Medicaid is a health insurance program jointly funded by the federal government and the states; in New York, counties and the City of New York also make contributions to the program.

www.osc.ny.gov

Your "Under federal law" claim is cute, but it's not really relevant since NYC admits "Your immigration status won't be shared with federal immigration authorities." Other States figured out how to do this as well.

California Improperly Claimed $52.7 Million in Federal Medicaid Reimbursement for Capitation Payments Made on Behalf of Noncitizens With Unsatisfactory Immigration Status

oig.hhs.gov

If you had given your complete dedication to remaining clueless on this matter a short break and clicked on the link, you'd have noticed that:

1. It's actually a link to New York City's website.
2. It specifically discusses benefits for the undocumented.

Right at the top of the link you provided.

Immigrants​

Immigrants in New York have more health insurance options than in many other states. Applying for health insurance won't affect your immigration status or application for status. Your immigration status won't be shared with federal immigration authorities.

The only part that deals with undocumented people, which does not necessarily mean they are 'illegals' is if:

• If you are pregnant, you can get Medicaid regardless of immigration status, as long as you meet other requirements.
• Undocumented adults who are 65 and older might be eligible for Medicaid if they meet the eligibility requirements.
• If you are undocumented, under 65 and not pregnant, you can still get Medicaid for emergency services, as long as you meet other requirements.
• DACAmented New Yorkers with Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals status can qualify for Medicaid.

 

[Cosmo]

You didnt read my post. Here you go again.

Yes, I did. And then I commented on it. Did you read what you copied and pasted? What about what I wrote?

And?

What, do you want hospitals to just let people die?

I want the illegals out of the country. Then it's not even an issue.

Right at the top of the link you provided.

Immigrants​

Immigrants in New York have more health insurance options than in many other states. Applying for health insurance won't affect your immigration status or application for status. Your immigration status won't be shared with federal immigration authorities.

The only part that deals with undocumented people

...meaning illegals.

, which does not necessarily mean they are 'illegals' is if:

• If you are pregnant, you can get Medicaid

...which is funded by the feds (at least in part).

• regardless of immigration status, as long as you meet other requirements.
• Undocumented adults who are 65 and older might be eligible for Medicaid if they meet the eligibility requirements.
• If you are undocumented, under 65 and not pregnant, you can still get Medicaid for emergency services, as long as you meet other requirements.
• DACAmented New Yorkers with Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals status can qualify for Medicaid.

 

[NolanVoyd]

Yes, I did. And then I commented on it. Did you read what you copied and pasted? What about what I wrote?

The only thing paid by the general medicaid fund (federal and state) is emergency care.......because duh!

Any other care they might get is a state issue.

I want the illegals out of the country. Then it's not even an issue.


...meaning illegals.

...which is funded by the feds (at least in part).

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

It says right on government websites that illegals can get Medicaid.

Immigrants - OCHIA

oh lord, can't even read his own link............
Immigrants in New York have more health insurance options than in many other states.
Federally, illegals are barred from receiving Medicaid. So a tempest in a teapot believed by ignorant people who site a NYC govt site to argue about a federal law, go figure.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

Is there a point to your post? Helping out people who can't click on a link to a short webpage?

You don't wanna know. Details escape you. Understood.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

Its a state issue.

We are talking about the federal government shut down.......illegals dont get federally funded medicaid......so what the states do has nothing to do with the subject of the thread.

Never mind, he either doesn't "get" the distinction or is being obtuse.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

It says so right on New York State's website:

HELLO??

 

[Buster Keaton]

The Government has shut down and that is because the Democrats and Republicans failed to come to a compromise on Trump's "Big Beautiful Bill". The democrats are against the bill because they have stated (with good reason) that the bill will take away Medicare and Medicaid from approximately 5 million Americans.

The Republicans have stated "We are moving to block an estimated 1.4 million illegal aliens from receiving American tax-payer Medicaid"!

That statement is based on lies!

Factchecking The White House “Mythbuster” on Medicaid Cuts and Immigrants​

On June 2, 2025, The White House posted a “Mythbuster” fact sheet in defense of the House-passed reconciliation bill. However, the sheet is full of inaccuracies and advances more myths than facts—too many to cover in just one blog. This blog will focus on one prominent false claim, namely that 1.4 million undocumented immigrants will be removed from Medicaid. (And there’s some incredible irony here, too.)

The White House fact sheet says that, under the House bill, Medicaid will better serve the American people “by removing at least 1.4 million illegal immigrants from the program.” This is unequivocally false.

As we have covered previously, comprehensive Medicaid coverage is not available to undocumented immigrants. The 1.4 million immigrants the White House presumably refers to are immigrants who will lose coverage due to reductions in state health care programs, funded by states and not by federal Medicaid dollars.

Trump supporters believe that lie to the nth degree

This is what is happening:

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Do you remember this debate question?
Raise your hand if you think that illegal aliens should receive free healthcare.