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Given a choice would you get vaccinated or take horse de-wormer?

Which treatment would you pick and why?

  • Horse de-wormer because it comes from veterinarians and I trust veterinarians

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • A vaccine. Are you stupid?!

    Votes: 17 85.0%
  • Other, specify below

    Votes: 3 15.0%

  • Total voters
    20
If the law said you either had to get vaccinated with one of the big 3 vaccines or you could take one tablet of horse de-wormer per day, which treatment would you pick and why?
Just when I think I've seen the stupidest question in the world, someone proves me wrong. :rolleyes:
Well done.
 
It depends on if I'm a republican or a democrat.
Yeah, democrats are stupid enough to thing the ivermectin a MD prescribes is that same as what's used to de-worm horses. Republicans know better.
 
I mean, if this is true, then it merely tells us that the un-vaccinated hog more healthcare resources. Which to me, is not enough reason to compel vaccination, which is serious violation of people's basic rights. Also, the main refrain in favor of vaccination is that it will "keep the community safe", however, even the CDC itself said that getting vaccinated will not stop the spread of covid. It will slow it down, somewhat, but not to any appreciable degree. And certainly not appreciable enough to justify mandating the vaccines.

This is better. Now we're dealing with the same facts, but a difference in opinion about how they should be dealt with. Fair enough.

I would argue that nobody has lost a constitutional right. They can refuse a vaccine but can't come to work. You can refuse to get an engineering degree too and the only consequence is you'll have to find some other occupation than designing bridges. Same thing, just affects more people.

I would also argue that an "appreciable degree" is just what the CDC is trying to achieve when slowing the spread. Despite us differing on solutions, I applaud you for at least not living in a parallel dimension.
 
Are you able to provide the source for this? Also, you need to prove that the reason those who are hospitalized became ill due to covid-related reasons, not because they have comorbidities.

My own understanding is that covid vaccines do not protect you from catching covid, it only makes your symptoms less bad if you do catch it.

Firstly this is very old news. we have known this for months.


If you're looking to trip me up on a couple of percentage points, According to the article it's 87% overall - in some states over ninety - but we get the gist.
 
If the law said you either had to get vaccinated with one of the big 3 vaccines or you could take one tablet of horse de-wormer per day, which treatment would you pick and why?

I wouldn't want to get hoarse so I would drink bleach instead.

 
Its very telling that the idiot left is so determined to ensure no legitimate cures are discussed that they have to lie about the drugs or the doctors successfully using them. Hydroxychloroquine is a drug that has a 70 year history of responsible use that is very safe, has very minimal side effects that has passed the FDA's guidelines...back when the FDA actually followed their own guidelines. Doctors in hospitals and emergency rooms successfully used the drug in hundreds of thousands of cases, including the most extreme cirxumstances where patients were placed on ventilators......yet the idiot left shit themselves and shrieked that unqualified people were promoting the idea that people should drink fish tank cleaning solution. A proven lie...but one that idiot leftists STILL repeat.

Doctors have found success treating COVID patients with high doses of Vitamins C, D, and Zinc and monclonal antibodies...but idiot leftists shit themselves and shriek that that's witch doctor magic.

Doctors have been safely prescribing Ivermectin since 1981. It began its testing in 1975. Doctors widely prescribe the drug to help with a variety of parasitic infections. They also have used Ivermectin to treat malaria and yellow fever. Yet leftists shit themselves and shriek that Ivermectin is nothing more than horse dewormer.

Leftists are mighty determined that there be no legitimate cures for COVID, and insist on attacking people that DO have a successful record of treating COVID. Instead, the idiot leftist 'solution' for COVID is to stick people in ICUs until they die, and insist that people should be forced to take a 'vaccine' that does NOT prevent you from getting COVID, does not prevent vaccinated people from spreading COVID, and does nothing more than introduce a genetic variant to teach your body to do what your body does naturally...and the idiot left insists that once you get vaccinated you are going to have boosters...an unknown number of boosters...maybe a 3rd shot to complete the series, along with boosters...and if the boosters havent worked, MORE boosters...over...and over...and over....and over......

Its almost like the idiot left is INVESTED in there being no actual cures for COVID.
 
You want to write a law to force people to take a veterinary dose of a drug? This is the ONLY thing that can be meant when you say "horse" de-wormer A dose of a drug intended for a horse for the treatment of an organism that is vastly different from a virus.

There are many drugs on the market that have both human and veterinary uses and are given at different does for different species and body weights within the species - from antibiotics to ketamine. Saying "horse de-wormer" is just another hyperbole that eviscerates all credibility of the person who even says it.

As an anti-parasitic, ivermectin also works as an anti-malarial drug - which is a blood parasite. It's already proven that, as a Covid anti-viral, it inhibits viral replication in vitro. There's no debate there. It's a fact.

There is also evidence it is active in-vivo. As long as people are willing to take the drug, they should. It will give us data to use to make decisions about treating Covid. It's called a clinical trial. Preliminary studies show viral clearance is faster in patients given ivermectin (at HUMAN doses) vs a placebo. The more people who take it the faster we can make the determination of exactly how well it works. So let them.

The vaccines were rushed to market without proper clinical trials - standard mandated procedures were waived by FDA to do this - which means we are all part of the most massive clinical trial of a vaccination ever known to man. You're willing to be a part of that clinical trial - let the people who take their ivermectin be part of theirs.

What you want, and I can't really fault you for that, is a panacea for Covid prevention and treatment. I'd like to have one too. There isn't one. Not even the vaccination - not even the mask wearing - nothing is 100% when it comes to Covid. The only way to find what works is to just keep testing. So take your hyperbole and pack it away and leave the clinical trials to the scientist.
In vitro, yes. In humans? There is no hard, peer-reviewed evidence of its efficacy.
 
Once again it's the left and the left wing media lying to the American public. You can not like it, you can disapprove for your own use, but lying about what it is and the possibility of it's effectiveness is dishonest. These tactics were all done at least in part to discredit Trump during the campaign. It's also true that the big pharma companies have been working to protect their profit on the vaccines they are selling.
First of all Ivermectin tablets are approved for use in humans by the FDA to treat some parasitic worms, including intestinal roundworms or those that cause river blindness. The left just lies. “it’s a very effective treatment for some of these parasitic infections,” said John O’Horo, an infectious-disease specialist with the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minn. The inexpensive and widely available drug is included on the World Health Organization’s list of essential medicines for several parasitic diseases.
So stop lying. The same type of left wing campaign against hydroxycholorquine was mounted a year ago despite many doctors using it to treat Covid symptoms. In the spring of 2020, when Australian researchers observed that the medicine killed the virus in a laboratory setting.

Taking Ivermectin prescribed by your doctor for one of it's approved uses is not the same as picking it up at your local feed store and dosing yourself, just because some whackjob told you it works. Oh, and Ivermectin is also made by big pharma.

































pharma.
 
Yeah, democrats are stupid enough to thing the ivermectin a MD prescribes is that same as what's used to de-worm horses. Republicans know better.
Republicans are flocking to feed stores in droves to get Ivermectin, to the degree that ranchers are complaining they can't get it for their livestock.
Apparently republicans don't know better.
 
Taking Ivermectin prescribed by your doctor for one of it's approved uses is not the same as picking it up at your local feed store and dosing yourself, just because some whackjob told you it works. Oh, and Ivermectin is also made by big pharma.

































pharma.
Yes, the same Big Pharma the usual suspects whine about because *gasp* they're in the business of making profits. Conservatives complaining about capitalism is probably the most absurd notion I have heard.
 
In vitro, yes. In humans? There is no hard, peer-reviewed evidence of its efficacy.

Which is the point in allowing people to take it. It has been shown to reduce the number of days in the hospital.
 
Which is the point in allowing people to take it. It has been shown to reduce the number of days in the hospital.
Have any human-subject double-blind trials been carried out and peer reviewed with regard to its use with Covid? That's the gold standard.
 
Insect and worm pesticide cures everything!
 
Which is the point in allowing people to take it. It has been shown to reduce the number of days in the hospital.

Lie.

No doctor has prescribed it for Covid. No doctor will ever prescribe it for Covid. It's a pesticide.

Stop Truthing.
 
Have any human-subject double-blind trials been carried out and peer reviewed with regard to its use with Covid? That's the gold standard.

Same can be said of the vaccine. Most of the normal protocols were bypassed in getting the vaccine to market. That makes us all participants in the largest clinical trial of a vaccine in the history of man.

 
Republicans are flocking to feed stores in droves to get Ivermectin, to the degree that ranchers are complaining they can't get it for their livestock.
Apparently republicans don't know better.
Bullshit. Republicans are smart enough to know that difference between a human dose and one meant for large animals; lefties apparently don't.
 
If the law said you either had to get vaccinated with one of the big 3 vaccines or you could take one tablet of horse de-wormer per day, which treatment would you pick and why?
Listen, this was great as a joke, but Ivermicten is classified as a generic drug. It's not horse dewormer, or else the fda, who you trust so much, would have classified it as such.
 
If the law said you either had to get vaccinated with one of the big 3 vaccines or you could take one tablet of horse de-wormer per day, which treatment would you pick and why?
Ivermectin is a bonified prescription medication with valid medical uses in humans.

I pick option 3 none of the above.
 
A vaccine uses your immune system. That is the whole point of a vaccine. You generate antibodies to respond to a potential COVID infection and you have a B-Cell response once the antibodies go dormant. That's your immune system, its exactly why the vaccines work.

Man has been around for about 200,000 years. Average lifespans went from around 40 years to around 80 years in the last century and it's almost entirely due to vaccines and antibiotics.

As to long term effects, has there ever been a vaccine that triggered long term serious side effects when those side effects did not present within 2 months of getting the vaccine? Hint: There hasn't. Something like 2 billion people have been vaccinated so far. We know more about the COVID vaccines in use, then we do about any drug the FDA has ever approved. For example, your risks of a serious adverse effect from an over the counter NSAID is approximately 500 times higher than it is from either of the 3 vaccines in use in America. Yet I would imagine, you think nothing of taking a Ibuprofen or a Naproxen (Aleve).

These are literally some of the safest, most effective vaccines ever developed for any disease. If you are not vaccinated, you need to be for your own heath.
I have had a reaction to vaccine specifically the Anthrax vaccine. That reaction was not noticeable until I started getting rashes from about 6 months in country for no physical reason I could discern, I flew back home and had my doctor check me out thoroughly and apparently the vaccine sparked my immune system too much and it was marginally attacking me and making me susceptible to allergens when I was never susceptible to begin with. I am now susceptible to reaction to certain types of bee stings and wasp stings that I was never susceptible before. The weird thing is, that I am only susceptible to particular types of variants of a venom that different amongst the honey bee population and wasp population something about a particular enzyme or something. I can get stung by a couple of bees but good one time and be fine, but get grazed by one and look like I went 15 rounds with Mike Tyson using me as his personal stress release dummy.
 
Lie.

No doctor has prescribed it for Covid. No doctor will ever prescribe it for Covid. It's a pesticide.

Stop Truthing.

 
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