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Giuliani to decided in 30 to 60 days if he will run for Governor

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Why would new yorkers want a liberal in republican clothing when they can vote for a out of the closet liberal democrat?
 
That fascist jerk is thinking of running for governor? Not that I care too much about NY, I think it's a hell hole and it's laws are almost as bad as Chicago. But I'd caution against electing people who define liberty and freedom through the health and prosperity of the State.
 
Ikari said:
That fascist jerk is thinking of running for governor? Not that I care too much about NY, I think it's a hell hole and it's laws are almost as bad as Chicago. But I'd caution against electing people who define liberty and freedom through the health and prosperity of the State.
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thank you for that foam dripping out the mouth performance.

Also Rudy would be a great governor just like he was a great mayor.
 
OxymoronP said:
thank you for that foam dripping out the mouth performance.

Also Rudy would be a great governor just like he was a great mayor.
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Aww...is that all you could do to address the post. Giuliani wasn't a good mayor, he used horrible police tactics and databasing. He's a fascist, defining things through the State as if the State power is supreme to the rights and liberties of the People.

Again, anyone who defines freedom and liberty through the health and prosperity of the State is dangerous.
 
Aww...is that all you could do to address the post.
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Point being what? That you hate NY and our goverment in general?


Giuliani wasn't a good mayor, he used horrible police tactics and databasing. He's a fascist, defining things through the State as if the State power is supreme to the rights and liberties of the People.
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Are you from NY?

Again, anyone who defines freedom and liberty through the health and prosperity of the State is dangerous
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The greatest freedom is the freedom to oppress others.
 
OxymoronP said:
Point being what? That you hate NY and our goverment in general?
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NYC in particular and it's commie laws. It's trying to be as corrupt and tyrannical as Chicago it seems.


OxymoronP said:
Are you from NY?
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Don't need to be from there to know that Guiliani is a fascist and would be very dangerous is positions of power.

OxymoronP said:
The greatest freedom is the freedom to oppress others.
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The greatest freedom is the freedom to live and let live.
 
NYC in particular and it's commie laws. It's trying to be as corrupt and tyrannical as Chicago it seems.
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Which "commie" laws, and how is NY corrupt? You have some source material to back that up?



Don't need to be from there to know that Guiliani is a fascist and would be very dangerous is positions of power.
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Thank you for admitting you dont really know what your talking about, at least your honest.


The greatest freedom is the freedom to live and let live
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Its not a freedom its a condition.
 
Is anyone else concerned about his abuse of power, when he used taxpayer funds on his mistress? come on now.
 
OxymoronP said:
Being dumb should be illegal.:lol:
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No it shouldn't. What should be illegal is commie gun laws requiring that you clear everything with the State first and be a good boy and report to them all your guns even if the gun is registered elsewhere. It's almost as bad as Chicago's gun laws.


OxymoronP said:
No U :2wave:
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Well you have some problem because I never said I didn't know the conditions. There are things called news papers and news agencies and the internet, I can get lots of information without living in an area. NYC has a bad government, way too intrusive. Guiliani is a fascist who insists on the health and prosperity of the State over the People.

OxymoronP said:
When using the word To it is a condition not a freedom.
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free to keep and bear arms
free to expression and practice of religion
free to be protected from unreasonable search and seizure.

Just because it's used in a particular construction doesn't mean it's not a right. All those above are rights phrased in the structure which you claim makes not rights. Besides you said

"The greatest freedom is the freedom to oppress others. "

So are you in violation of your own rules? Or are you going to construct some BS excuse as to why it doesn't apply to you?
 
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The baiting and flaming needs to end
 
No it shouldn't. What should be illegal is commie gun laws requiring that you clear everything with the State first and be a good boy and report to them all your guns even if the gun is registered elsewhere. It's almost as bad as Chicago's gun laws.
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Obviously the gun laws in NY is something that is wrong, but it is in no way commie. Nor does it define Rudys tenure.



Well you have some problem because I never said I didn't know the conditions. There are things called news papers and news agencies and the internet, I can get lots of information without living in an area. NYC has a bad government, way too intrusive. Guiliani is a fascist who insists on the health and prosperity of the State over the People.
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Well as someone who has lived in NY for his entire life, Rudy resurrected the city and made NY a thriving city once again. There was an immediate positive change when Rudy was in power. As far as your position do you have any sources to back up your assertions of his facism?

free to keep and bear arms
free to expression and practice of religion
free to be protected from unreasonable search and seizure
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You added the free part remember, while your statement was to be free and let live? Thus for your supposed freedom you must do a certain thing.


So are you in violation of your own rules? Or are you going to construct some BS excuse as to why it doesn't apply to you?
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Is to meaning you are doing it to someone, not that your freedom is based on some transaction of rights.
 
OxymoronP said:
Obviously the gun laws in NY is something that is wrong, but it is in no way commie. Nor does it define Rudys tenure.
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You are right on that one. I would define Rudy's tenure as fascist. Especially with the databasing he did with arbitrarily enforced laws using the police.

OxymoronP said:
Well as someone who has lived in NY for his entire life, Rudy resurrected the city and made NY a thriving city once again. There was an immediate positive change when Rudy was in power. As far as your position do you have any sources to back up your assertions of his facism?
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His administration, his ideals of defining things through the health and prosperity of the State, not the People.


OxymoronP said:
You added the free part remember, while your statement was to be free and let live? Thus for your supposed freedom you must do a certain thing.
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hehe, so yes then. Man I'm good, I should start a psychic hotline

Me: The greatest freedom is the freedom to live and let live
You: The greatest freedom is the freedom to oppress others.

That first statement of mine is what you called a condition, the statement of yours is exactly the same. So again, are you in violation of your own rules? Or are you just going to make up some BS excuse as to why it doesn't apply to you? The answer's actually obvious, but it's just that it's such glaring hypocrisy it has made me laugh.

OxymoronP said:
The greatest freedom is the freedom to oppress others.Is to meaning you are doing it to someone, not that your freedom is based on some transaction of rights.
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My original quote, which you took issue with, is identical in construction to your own. So either you're talking condition or I'm talking rights. Pick.
 
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Ikari said:
I would define Rudy's tenure as fascist.
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Please. To you, everyone that doesn't parrot the same talking points you do is a fascist. Or a socialist. Or a communist. Or a [add pejorative of choice].

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Glinda said:
Please. To you, everyone that doesn't parrot the same talking points you do is a fascist. Or a socialist. Or a communist. Or a [add pejorative of choice].

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Got proof? Or are ya just deflecting away from the issue?
 
Ikari said:
Got proof? Or are ya just deflecting away from the issue?
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It's an observation. One I'm sure every thinking member of this board has made about you at one time or another.

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Glinda said:
It's an observation. One I'm sure every thinking member of this board has made about you at one time or another.

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Got proof of that, or is it just more undocumented speculation?
 
jamesrage said:
Why would new yorkers want a liberal in republican clothing when they can vote for a out of the closet liberal democrat?
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"A liberal in republican clothing"? You mean... a liberal republican? You do realize that conservative democrats exist right?
 
Dav said:
"A liberal in republican clothing"? You mean... a liberal republican? You do realize that conservative democrats exist right?
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But what defines that? Pataki was a strong fiscal conservative to the point that New York was closing down mental hospitals and letting some of the patients loose but was socially liberal in pushing gay marriage. If a republican is socially conservative but fiscally liberal like Huckabee, are they a conservative republican? The same notion goes for Democrats.

I suppose Blue Dog Democrats are Conservative Democrats, but is there a corresponding name for liberal Republicans?
 
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