why are you asking me? I did not make that claim.:roll:
How many people did MLK threaten to beat the hell out of because of a recent current event?
Charity's a fine idea. A soup kitchen would be nice. It's another example of some poor decision-making in my mind. Reminds me of Tonya Harding.
False narrative to spin what actually happened, against Zimmerman.Well, he did kill an unarmed minor...I know, no biggie.
False narrative to spin what actually happened, against Zimmerman.
He killed a young adult who had been beating his head into the ground.
Fist = 'armed'.It is simply a fact he killed an unarmed minor...
Wrong.What I said is a fact completely free of spin. You do spin.
Wrong.
It is purposeful spin to make it appear Zimmerman was in the wrong when he wasn't.
Using your own body as a weapon is not being unarmed.
And he was a young adult old enough to be emancipated and join the military.
And old enough to be charged as an adult.
:naughtyThis is what you do. He did not get emancipated. He did not join the military. He wasn't charged. On the other hand, Zimmerman killed an unarmed minor. Until you come up with something to dispute this fact I am done talking about it. Zimmerman killed an unarmed minor.
[/QUOTE]It is simply a fact he killed an unarmed minor, and I some point that night, even according to Z's account, Zimmerman made a decision that put him in a position that he (according to him) had to kill Martin. It might have been self defense, but if Zimmerman were a responsible adult he could have avoided it.
QUOTE=Rainman05;1062874169]Yes, and while he did kill someone, he did so in self defense, so it wasn't murder. The court said it, so that's the reality of things. You may not agree, but you have no moral or legal leg to stand on now to support any accusation. I mean, there is 1 leg you can choose to stand on... more like a tail really, and that's vigilantiism. Which is what those 2 rappers do.
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Yes, and while he did kill someone, he did so in self defense, so it wasn't murder. The court said it, so that's the reality of things. You may not agree, but you have no moral or legal leg to stand on now to support any accusation. I mean, there is 1 leg you can choose to stand on... more like a tail really, and that's vigilantiism. Which is what those 2 rappers do.
Vigilantiism is not a civil liberty.
Of course they're racists. They see themselves as the people who will avenge black people by hitting the "oppressor" in the form of zimmerman. Doesn't matter what race zimmerman is, what matters, is that he isn't black and that black people need an avenger. Someone to set the score straight.
Read what he wrote:
"And now The Game, who has an image of Martin tattooed on his leg, tells TMZ he would definitely jump into the ring with Zimmerman: "I will beat the f--- out of him ... I would not be boxing for me. I'd be boxing for the legacy of Trayvon Martin and for his family."
"I would box him to knock him out," The Game continues. "I would definitely take pleasure in it. It's legal, and I want to show him you can solve your disputes without a weapon."
DMX also talked to TMZ, saying that he hopes to step into the ring with Zimmerman to fight for "every black person who has been done wrong in the (legal) system."
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You see, in their minds, the legal system failed trayvon. Now what happened to him may have been wrong, in the sense that it shouldn't have happened, but it did. The question is: does that make Zimmerman guilty? No, apparently, it doesn't. He is innocent of all fault in that incident, but yet, because he isn't a black guy and trayvon was, he still needs to get punished because in their minds, when they'll beat zimmerman, they'll be fighting for every black person who was wronged by the legal system. So they're racists, black supremacists and vigilantees.
And with all people of such nature, they're stupid. One: zimmerman doesn't have judicial power. He didn't found himself innocent, others found him not guilty. He had no greater input or power over the verdict than it is legally possible. Two: Zimmerman is actually a martyr here. He's going to willingly put himself in harms way from a bunch of people who he knows will be out for blood... and he does it for charity. He's a martyr. If anything, people who hate him should eat their words, but of course they won't, and start giving the man some respect.
Yes, and while he did kill someone, he did so in self defense, so it wasn't murder. The court said it, so that's the reality of things. You may not agree, but you have no moral or legal leg to stand on now to support any accusation. I mean, there is 1 leg you can choose to stand on... more like a tail really, and that's vigilantiism. Which is what those 2 rappers do.
Vigilantiism is not a civil liberty.
One must realize that celeb boxing is not real boxing. He is not stepping into the ring with a professional boxer or even some amateur who has fought in a number of matches.
Most likely it will be another celeb clown and will consist of wild swings and clutching.
Wonder if he'll be able to "stand is ground" without the comfort of packing a weapon, or if he'll cry like a little girl the first time he gets punched in the nose, like he did the last time.
i suspect he does not want his 15 minutes of 'fame' to have expiredZimmerman is not a martyr. The guy could serve charity and the public how most people do. Instead he prefers to remain in the spotlight for whatever reason.
I have constantly said I don't hate him, and there is a difference for having compassion for a deeply troubled person verses supporting and encouraging him in everything he does. To some people he is an archetype, but to me he is a human in need of serious support and help, not encouragement and idolization.
How is it vigilantism when Zimmerman is inviting them to fight him?
So let me ask you again. Do you think people who stand up for civil liberties are racists? Do you think MLK is a racist?
How is it vigilantism when Zimmerman is inviting them to fight him?
Hyperbole much... This is not vigilantism. This is going to be a boxing match, which is within the law and both are agreeing to it.
read their statements. I have to constantly repeat myself. Here, let me make it easy for you. Since it's clear that at least 3-4 people in this thread are illiterate.
And now The Game, who has an image of Martin tattooed on his leg, tells TMZ he would definitely jump into the ring with Zimmerman: "I will beat the f--- out of him ... I would not be boxing for me. I'd be boxing for the legacy of Trayvon Martin and for his family."
"I would box him to knock him out," The Game continues. "I would definitely take pleasure in it. It's legal, and I want to show him you can solve your disputes without a weapon."
DMX also talked to TMZ, saying that he hopes to step into the ring with Zimmerman to fight for "every black person who has been done wrong in the (legal) system."
Vigilantiism.
that's not the point. You keep dodging the question because the truth would hurt your little "progressive" which is actually regressive view.
If you look at the statements both rappers made, they clearly see themselves as vigilantees and out to get zimmerman for black people who've been failed by the system. That, is racism. One of them has a trayvon martin tatoo on his leg. If people make tatoos of underrage children, them being adults, it's either they're stupid or pedophiles. I think he's both.
Look at what they're saying. I posted what they were saying half a dozen times. If you can't read, that's not my fault.
I will redirect you to read their statements.
I have already said it. It's not the event itself that is vigilantiism, it's the 2 rappers who wanna participate that are vigilantes. It's the statements of the 2 racists. They won't go in that ring to fight for charity, that's just zimmerman, he's the hero. they wanna go in there for vengeance, for retribution because of race.
I'm not dodging anything I'm trying to find where you make the leap to racism. You keep iterating over and over that DMX and The Game standing up for what they see as black civil liberties is racism. I've pointedly asked you about this several times which you will not answer directly and you go back to your original long winded rant about them being racists and vigilantes which I have addressed.
Black people standing up for themselves is not racism. Complaining about a judicial system that historically has failed blacks is not racism. Wanting to beat up somebody in a consensual boxing match; a person that they feel wrongly walked away from criminal activity, is not racism. They are not "vigilantes", Zimmerman was the damn vigilante. If DMX or The Game went over to Zimmerman's house to knock on the door and assault him when he opened it; that would be vigilantism.
The only conclusion I can draw is that you are avoiding the point that the racist here is you.
I would not be boxing for me. I'd be boxing for the legacy of Trayvon Martin and for his family.
I hope whoever boxes him brings skittles and tea and wears a hoodie and puts the beat down on him.
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