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General Petraeus warning about Israel.

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General Petraeus, the commander of US forces in Iraq, delivers a poignant warning to Admiral Mullin and President Obama. The young turks of the 80's, raised in the ranks after the Pollard spy affair, finally reach their rank and begin to speak up on the true menace to peace in the middle east.

Report: Petraeus Warns Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Mullen that Israel Is Jeopardizing US Security Interests

Petraeus Warns Israel Is Jeopardizing US Security Interests

This wont go over well

Petraeus of course has already backtracked on this to cover his behind.

It suprisingly got very little press considering how popular Petraeus was among the neo con types
 
This wont go over well

Petraeus of course has already backtracked on this to cover his behind.

It suprisingly got very little press considering how popular Petraeus was among the neo con types

I know, milord. But, gosh, I like that guy. He is one hell of a soldier and leader.
 
Petraeus to Ashkenazi: I never said Israel policy endangers U.S.

Commander of the U.S. Military's Central Command Gen. David Petraeus phoned his Israeli counterpart, Gabi Ashkenazi, this week to deny reports that he had blamed Israeli policy for the failure in a regional solution and for endangering U.S. interests.

Earlier this month, Petraeus warned the Pentagon that "America's relationship with Israel is important, but not as important as the lives of America's soldiers," in a posting on the Foreign Policy Web site.

In a 56-page report, the Central Command had written: "The enduring hostilities between Israel and some of its neighbors present distinct challenges to our ability to advance our interests," the CENTCOM report read.
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Petraeus told reporters on Thursday that the report - which he claimed had been taken out of context - had been drafted because: "We noted in there that there was a perception at times that America sides with Israel and so forth. And I mean, that is a perception. It is there. I don't think that's disputable."


"But I think people inferred from what that said and then repeated it a couple of times and bloggers picked it up and spun it," he added. "And I think that has been unhelpful, frankly."

Responding to questions regarding that report, U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates warned that the ongoing Palestinian-Israeli conflict gave enemies of the two allies the opportunity to "exploit" the lack of a political settlement.

"Lack of progress toward Middle East peace is clearly an issue that is exploited by our adversaries in the region and is a source of certainly political challenge," said Gates. "Whether it has a direct impact, I'm not entirely sure. But there is no question that the absence of Middle East peace does affect U.S. national security interests in the region."

Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Mike Mullen, meanwhile, told reporters at the same briefing that the relationship between the U.S. Army and the Israel Defense Forces remained "exceptionally" strong.

Mullen added that he had been in contact with IDF Chief of Staff Gabi Ashkenazi twice this week and that the U.S. was concerned with Israel's security because:

"It is in our national interests obviously or we wouldn't be so engaged... the United States has considered peace in the Middle East to be a national security interest for decades."
Petraeus to Ashkenazi: I never said Israel policy endangers U.S. - Haaretz - Israel News

Now what do you call posting an article about a person's statement and not posting his denial and his real comment?
I call it propaganda.
 
General Petraeus, the commander of US forces in Iraq, delivers a poignant warning to Admiral Mullin and President Obama. The young turks of the 80's, raised in the ranks after the Pollard spy affair, finally reach their rank and begin to speak up on the true menace to peace in the middle east.

General Petraeus never suggested that Israel is the "true menace" to Mideast peace.

General Petraeus' testimony can be found at: http://armed-services.senate.gov/statemnt/2010/03 March/Petraeus 03-16-10.pdf

The relevant comments can be on page 12 of the .pdf document.
 
General Petraeus never suggested that Israel is the "true menace" to Mideast peace.

General Petraeus' testimony can be found at: http://armed-services.senate.gov/statemnt/2010/03 March/Petraeus 03-16-10.pdf

The relevant comments can be on page 12 of the .pdf document.

I read it. Page 12....not what he told Mullin, but a tactful response that anyone who has served as a staff officer in the Army can decipher....

"The conflict foments anti-American sentiment, due to a perception of U.S. favoritism for Israel. Arab anger over the Palestinian question limits the strength and depth of U.S. partnerships with governments and peoples in the AOR and weakens the legitimacy of moderate regimes in the Arab world. Meanwhile, al-Qaeda and other militant groups exploit that anger to mobilize support. The conflict also gives Iran influence in the Arab world through its clients, Lebanese Hizballah and Hamas."

That is a General officer knowing many in the Senate can read between the lines. He is obviously formed this opinion having confired with his peers in the General ranks.

This clarifies the positions the administration is now postulating, and will form on this region in the future.

It is the correct change in policy, and General Petraeus message was well understood and accepted.
 
I read it. Page 12....not what he told Mullin, but a tactful response that anyone who has served as a staff officer in the Army can decipher....

"The conflict foments anti-American sentiment, due to a perception of U.S. favoritism for Israel. Arab anger over the Palestinian question limits the strength and depth of U.S. partnerships with governments and peoples in the AOR and weakens the legitimacy of moderate regimes in the Arab world. Meanwhile, al-Qaeda and other militant groups exploit that anger to mobilize support. The conflict also gives Iran influence in the Arab world through its clients, Lebanese Hizballah and Hamas."

That is a General officer knowing many in the Senate can read between the lines. He is obviously formed this opinion having confired with his peers in the General ranks.

This clarifies the positions the administration is now postulating, and will form on this region in the future.

It is the correct change in policy, and General Petraeus message was well understood and accepted.

So, in other words, in order to avoid pissing off the KKK, we should join them in hating people of color, or to avoid offending Landover Babtist we should go out and pound on some gay people. Got it.
 
So, in other words, in order to avoid pissing off the KKK, we should join them in hating people of color, or to avoid offending Landover Babtist we should go out and pound on some gay people. Got it.

I love how anything regarding as critical of Israel is twisted to be against a particular religious group or ethnic identity.

It doesn't fly here. I am Republican. I always thought of myself as a conservative, albeit in the Goldwater vein. That changed with the neo-cons who took over my party, and began spreading filth like your above statements to deflect honesty inquiry and criticism.

Too many people in the party and the army see through that now.

Chomsky: A Middle East Peace That Could Happen (But Won?t) : Veterans Today
 
That is a General officer knowing many in the Senate can read between the lines.

There's no need for anyone to "read between the lines." The General's words are what they are. People were not to infer things that go beyond what he stated. In fact, he shot down the interpretation some bloggers were attaching to his words, explaining, "But I think people inferred from what that said and then repeated it a couple of times and bloggers picked it up and spun it... And I think that has been unhelpful, frankly."
 
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Simba beat me to it.

I was just constructing my own hypothesis about General Petraeus being an anti-Semitic woman
 
General Petraeus, the commander of US forces in Iraq, delivers a poignant warning to Admiral Mullin and President Obama. The young turks of the 80's, raised in the ranks after the Pollard spy affair, finally reach their rank and begin to speak up on the true menace to peace in the middle east.

You mean radical Islamists bent on expanding the Ummah through offensive Jihad? Oh you must mean the U.S.'s only actual ally in the region, never mind.
 
I love how anything regarding as critical of Israel is twisted to be against a particular religious group or ethnic identity.

It doesn't fly here. I am Republican. I always thought of myself as a conservative, albeit in the Goldwater vein. That changed with the neo-cons who took over my party, and began spreading filth like your above statements to deflect honesty inquiry and criticism.

Too many people in the party and the army see through that now.

Chomsky: A Middle East Peace That Could Happen (But Won?t) : Veterans Today

Ya a Goldwater conservative who cites Chomsky? Who the **** do you think you're fooling?
 
Ya a Goldwater conservative who cites Chomsky? Who the **** do you think you're fooling?

IF you are suggesting that Chomsky never said anything worthy of support by conservatives, you are labeling yourself a fool.

The worst thing we can do is get ALL our political platform planks from one extreme of the political spectrum or the other.

There has to be opposition or one party will have it too easy to totally control the process.

We need highly educated and intelligent dissenters to broadcast the stupidity and corruption of the current party in power, whether it be GOP or DEM.

BTW, the bolded part does not includes pundits....very few of them qualify as intelligent...
 
IF you are suggesting that Chomsky never said anything worthy of support by conservatives, you are labeling yourself a fool.

The actual fools are those with no discernible value system or consistent political ideology, but who merely latch on to anything that reinforces their bias no matter the source.
 
The actual fools are those with no discernible value system or consistent political ideology, but who merely latch on to anything that reinforces their bias no matter the source.

Exactly!!! and that describes those who suckle at the teats of pundits....
Spoon fed ideology is propaganda, not information.
 
Ya a Goldwater conservative who cites Chomsky? Who the **** do you think you're fooling?

He may be quoting Chomsky but in terms of the Neo-Con infestation in the GOP ... he is correct. The neo-cons are nazi asshats who need to be rounded up and removed from politics. They are a disease that has brought many ills on the American people. Is was the neo-con-azis who allowed wallstreet to rape the public and put this country in the toilet. It was they who allowed gasoline to reach $4.00+ per gallon so their big oil butt-buddies could reap ridiculous profits at the expense of the middle class; and it was they who have caused the greatest budget deficit in the history of the United States.

Neo-cons are the kind of people that our forefathers left europe to avoid. Neo-cons are a disease that needs to be irradicated.
 
He may be quoting Chomsky but in terms of the Neo-Con infestation in the GOP ... he is correct. The neo-cons are nazi asshats who need to be rounded up and removed from politics. They are a disease that has brought many ills on the American people. Is was the neo-con-azis who allowed wallstreet to rape the public and put this country in the toilet. It was they who allowed gasoline to reach $4.00+ per gallon so their big oil butt-buddies could reap ridiculous profits at the expense of the middle class; and it was they who have caused the greatest budget deficit in the history of the United States.

Neo-cons are the kind of people that our forefathers left europe to avoid. Neo-cons are a disease that needs to be irradicated.

you can eradicate, or irradiate, but you cannot irradicate....:shock:
 
Thank you ... for the lesson in symantics, Bill.

:mrgreen:

not sEmantics, but spelling...really bad spelling...:2razz:
Symantics is not a word, but the name of a company.
Irradicate is not a word, either...
 
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not sEmantics, but spelling...really bad spelling...:2razz:
Symantics is not a word, but the name of a company.
Irradicate is not a word, either...


LOL.

Ok. You've got me there. :)
 
Irradicate is not a word, either...

So it doesn't mean killing off entire groups of creatures through the use of radiation?
 
This wont go over well

Petraeus of course has already backtracked on this to cover his behind.

It went over just fine because there wasn't anything there. How do you feel 16 days later?
 
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I know, milord. But, gosh, I like that guy. He is one hell of a soldier and leader.

Then perhaps you should respect what he say's and not what you want his words to mean. What makes you any different from the politician who uses the military to further points?
 
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