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That's what they said to MLK jrToo bad.
That's what they said to MLK jrToo bad.
They have to object. The coaches want this because boys and men outperform girls and women.We all have a say.
I don't compete in women's sports either, but I have daughters. They deserve to not swim against Lia Thomas.
So I'm just curious why when these trans people participate in female sports and are still male why don't they're competitors object to it they have to that's the only way that stops. They have to object as in stop playing when the only team you have is one person as a coach you can't compete.And, we all have to push back against this LGBT bullshit. They're pretending there isn't even such a thing as biological sex. They act like we shouldn't even say that primates have one head, because occasionally some are born as conjoined twins.
Yeah I don't buy that sex is more complex crap either that's just gaslighting.We have to stop letting them conflate sex and gender. You'll constantly find that lobby saying "sex is more complex....because people can identify as one or more of many different genders..." -- the response has to be that they can identify as whatever they want, but that doesn't change a primate's sex. A male who identifies as a woman may be a fine person, but that person is still male, whether identifying as a woman or bigender or polygender or agender or genderfluid or whatever. It's all fine, but we are allowed to differentiate sports leagues by sex, without regard to gender.
If we must segregate athletes, it makes more sense to me to separate by testosterone levels, not gender.
Makes even more sense to separate by sex since not all male advantages are testosterone related.
Not punish. Just compete fairly with menThen you would punish trans athletes who have received hormone therapy. Maybe that is the point?
Of course.The whole idea of creating women's sports leagues was to include, not exclude. Now that we have a greater understanding of gender than we did in the '60s and '70s, we need to find ways to better include trans and intersex athletes. Letting trans youth who need hormone therapy have access to it would be a good start.
I don't think athletes should have to compete as their assigned sex. While an AMAB woman shouldn't be forced to compete alongside men, in order to ensure fairness, she should have to fit within some sort of parameters, such as a testosterone level on par with AFAB women.I believe that until recently, that's what the NCAA has done. But these bills that force athletes to compete as the sex they are assigned at birth helps nobody.
I agree.Gender is as much in the brain as anything, and if youth are given access to hormone therapy that they are entitled to, they'll develop according to their gender anyway.
Testosterone is not enough. She would have other advantagesOf course.
I don't think athletes should have to compete as their assigned sex. While an AMAB woman shouldn't be forced to compete alongside men, in order to ensure fairness, she should have to fit within some sort of parameters, such as a testosterone level on par with AFAB women.
I agree.
That's exactly what they have to do.Actually it is the governing bodies and laws that force women to compete against these men, unless you are saying they should protest and not compete.
Punish one person or everyone in the sport that's female?Then you would punish trans athletes who have received hormone therapy. Maybe that is the point?
Then you would punish trans athletes who have received hormone therapy. Maybe that is the point?
Agreed... The pro women should do a protest but I worry that some women's sports are hanging on by a thread in the first place and it might have negative consequences.That's exactly what they have to do.
A male fighter lying about his sex has nobody to fight if nobody will fight with him. For things like high school sports it won't do quite as much but for things like professional sports they will throw those trans people out in an instant.
I don't know why anybody wants to see a dude beat up a woman that's just messed up.
I will never understand the attitude that 99% of the athletes have to be punished to appease the 1%.Then you would punish trans athletes who have received hormone therapy. Maybe that is the point?
So they're female.They were born biologically female but with a male gender identity. That is why they are trans guys.
They are actually male, despite their female biology. The brain drives/controls the body, so their gender identity is superior in function and control to their biological gender. That is why trans people are treated medically the way that they are. John Money proved that our gender identity both exists and cannot be changed, so the medical community changes the trans peoples body, as much as current medical technology will allow to align with their psychological gender identity with both hormones and then surgery. It is far from perfect and there is much more to do when it becomes medically possibly but the current treatment gives the trans person significant relief from the discomfort from the gender dysphoria that they expeince because of their incongruent biolgial gender and gender idnetity.So they're female.
Well, no. They're chromosomes determine their sex.They are actually male, despite their female biology.
Again, no. Their chromosomes determine their sex. So, they are female.The brain drives/controls the body, so their gender identity is superior in function and control to their biological gender.
Gender identity is a psychological construct. Believing you are a woman, when your chromosomes clearly show you are a man, is by definition and clinical diagnosis a mental illness.That is why trans people are treated medically the way that they are. John Money proved that our gender identity both exists and cannot be changed, so the medical community changes the trans peoples body, as much as current medical technology will allow to align with their psychological gender identity with both hormones and then surgery. It is far from perfect and there is much more to do when it becomes medically possibly but the current treatment gives the trans person significant relief from the discomfort from the gender dysphoria that they expeince because of their incongruent biolgial gender and gender idnetity.
Chromosomes only determine a persons biological gender(the gender of their body). Chromosomes do not determines a persons psychological gender identity, unless you want to try to deny that psychological gender identity does not exist or is not critical importance in human sexuality.Well, no. They're chromosomes determine their sex.
Again, no. Their chromosomes determine their sex. So, they are female.
Gender identity is a psychological construct. Believing you are a woman, when your chromosomes clearly show you are a man, is by definition and clinical diagnosis a mental illness.
Which is backed by science.Chromosomes only determine a persons biological gender(the gender of their body).
This is where we leave science and enter psychological constructsChromosomes do not determines a persons psychological gender identity, unless you want to try to deny that psychological gender identity does not exist or is not critical importance in human sexuality.
It is by definition and clinical diagnosis.Being trans is not a mental illness.
If you are one thing, and think you are something else, you are by definition and diagnosis, mentally illgender dysphoria, which results when that gender incongruence is not treated effectively and timely manner is a mental illness.
I'm not talking about sexuality, and neither is the topic of this thread. I'm talking about biology.Human sexuality is not as simple as you appear to want to believe that it is.
Most likely but having men participate only further injures itAgreed... The pro women should do a protest but I worry that some women's sports are hanging on by a thread in the first place and it might have negative consequences.
I will never understand the attitude that 99% of the athletes have to be punished to appease the 1%.
Why should ANYONE get a advantage?I will never understand the attitude that 99% of trans people have to be sacrificed so that 1% of them might not gain a possible advantage.
Sacrificed? Are they being tossed into an active volcano somewhere?I will never understand the attitude that 99% of trans people have to be sacrificed so that 1% of them might not gain a possible advantage.
Why should ANYONE get a advantage?
Did Jackie Robinson get an advantage?
More crazy BS.Some people identify as gender fluid - which means that their gender identity changes over time. They can be man one day, both the next, woman another day, agender another day, pangender another day, intergender (between genders), etc. etc.
So, ought a gender fluid athlete be competing in men's or women's leagues? Does it depend on whether at the time of a competition the person identifies as man or woman, or something else?
A trans person who was born "cisgender male," and who transitions to gender fluid, can they compete in the women's league and the men's league, if their gender fluidity includes both man and woman?
Yes, he started playing against white people.Why should ANYONE get a advantage?
Did Jackie Robinson get an advantage?
Sacrificed? Are they being tossed into an active volcano somewhere?