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What evidence? You mean when he walked off Post. Its been reported since 2009. He just walked off. Any MS Media source covered it. They do have a timeline on him. You don't think that with all reporting that he walked off. That the Press didn't speak to those whom knew?
I fail to see how that makes him a sympathiser with the Taleban cause. It only makes him probably guilty of going AWOL, for what reason is as yet unclear.
Who says he is a sympathizer.....he is a deserter. You do know what Desertion is, Right? I haven't heard any accusing of him being a sympathizer. Unless they discover something with his re-intergration training.
YOU just said that. I'll quote for you:
"while we trade terrorists for a sympathizer in Pakistan."
Did you, or did you not say that?
Really :roll: .....you need to go back and look again. I never said anything about Bergdahl being a sympathizer. Show me which Post. As I don't see it.
I said he was a Deserter. Just like I did in the other thread on him. Nothing has changed.....so please do show me where I said he was a sympathizer.
Also.....now that you know that none are saying anything about him being a Sympathizer. What do you have to say about the Desertion that was reported by Most MS Media sources. All that is left to do.....is to take him to USMCJ. So that the guilty verdict can be read and the sentence met out.
Yes Ttwtt.....he walked off. He says off of a patrol. But.....he asked his CO what Military equipment would we not want to fall into the Enemies hands. The CO told him the night Vision Goggles and his weapon. So he left them.....took a knife canteen camera and diary. Made off to cross over the Mountains into Pakistan.
One thing all were clear on is.....they know he was drunk. When he disappeared. Which I doubt he would be drunk......and out on Patrol.
Actually, on closer inspection, it was not you who made that comment, but rather WCH. Three letter names, eh? Anyway, my mistake.
As for the desertion, that may well be the case. I couldn't say.
My main issue with some people in this thread is that they appear to disapprove of Bergdahl's human interaction with his captors, including learning their language, drinking their tea and playing badminton with them.
To me, this is an absurd, xenophobic and hateful stance to take.
The desertion is another matter entirely.
Well.....whatever his interaction was with his captors. Wasn't what most are accustom to. So he got lucky.....in that regard. Learning the language would be one of the basics.
Also connected to this issue is BO playing this out to try and get the Taliban to the negotiating table. They haven't talked to us in 2 years. Which doesn't even count the first time we released Taliban in Afghanistan.
Seems like that moron was not worth establishing a five for one trade ratio for "captured" warriors.
And is it your position that we should not be trying to get the Taliban to the negotiation table?
Oh and not with who was released.....I have been trying to find the pics. They reported these guys all got out of Black Escalades in Qatar. Stepped out waving to the crowd......heroes welcome on their End. Albeit in Qatar.
The one guy is their Intel Man. Commander. They wont stop him from jumping back into the fight. He has pledged to kill Americans.
According to whom? They've been extrajudicially held longer than the POW. The admin has a vested interest in telling us they have a reason to hold them, whether they do or not.
Would it help if we just have video of the people they negotiated with sawing off peoples head on camera? Because hell...we have that. Several of them in fact. In living color, blood, screams, all accompanied by the frenzied chants of Allah Ahkbar. Thats who the admin jumped in bed with. Might want to be careful with the snarky comments...they might come back and bite you in the ass.Imagine how you could have partied if a video showing him having his head sawed off with a knife had shown up? There'd be a horde outside the White House with torches and pitchforks.
Would it help if we just have video of the people they negotiated with sawing off peoples head on camera? Because hell...we have that. Several of them in fact. In living color, blood, screams, all accompanied by the frenzied chants of Allah Ahkbar. Thats who the admin jumped in bed with. Might want to be careful with the snarky comments...they might come back and bite you in the ass.
Hardline Islamists celebrating Easter and Christmas while playing Badminton. THERE'S a picture!
We've started negotiating with terrorists *behind the backs of Congress. A clear breaking of the law.
Also, we have a Marine in Mexico who is being imprisoned that the FedGov is doing nothing about while we trade terrorists for a sympathizer in Pakistan.
Now that we've started negotiating with terrorists, no American is safe. 5 bad asses for one idiot. Sounds like another Obama bad decision.
I am studiously trying to avoid comment on this. Ask me a week ago before it happened if we should negotiate with terrorists I and I would have said no. Ask me today and I would say no. Ask me about this specific incident and I would say "its a tough job being the Commander in Chief and I hope his decision doesnt come back to bite our country in the ass". At the end of the day, this is just not an issue I want to play partisan politics with.Heya VM.....how do you like that. Right after the Taliban agree with us. Then they tell Qatar release their men. It is against International law to hold them in Qatar. Looks like BO.....Hagel.....Susan Rice all just got played.
We got back a deserter.....who didn't want to be there. Plus now the Taliban still hasn't come to the table to talk to us Directly. They Wont even talk to our face.
Well, I mean, the guy in Mexico is a totally different situation. He broke the law, and he's in prison. Surely you don't think Americans should be exempt from other countries' laws? That would set an awful precedent!
As for Bergdahl being a sympathiser, I think it's absurd. Where's your evidence? That he had human interaction with his captors, who are also normal people? That he played badminton with them?
If you think captured soldiers just repeat their dog-tag ID over and over again for five years in captivity, you've been playing too many WWII videogames.
Most of the Military calling in on Radio stations are tearing Bergdahl up.....also others are questioning if BO is trying to use this with Peace talks with the Taliban since they are not talking with us and using Qatar as an intermediary.
The issue is should he be court martialed. People can show whatever they need to back why they think so or not. The article OP I presented was info released this Morning on him, based on what those in Contact with the Taliban are saying.
They also know he sent his father a letter telling him he was going to take off from the US military.....and talking about how the Military sucked and then he went off into some speil about how we treat the Afghans.
Oh Reagan, yeah, I remember that. I thought you all thought he was one of the best presidents though...
If you're trying to make pointz for your precious POTUS, forget it.
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