Fox and Friends trying to spread dissension?

[mertex]

Found it. It's a 2 minute or so segment.

Doocy described BO's Ramadan statement, with no evident sarcasm, as "lovely." And it was.



The only error I can find is in his use of the term "proclamation."

Their guest even points out that statements are made every year regarding Ramadan.

Mild stuff.

Ha,ha, unbelievable!

I guess you missed the part where Ms Foxy claims that people are having an issue, because he didn't do the same for Easter? What people? I think she is the only one saying it.

Also, the dude on the left claims that he did issue a proclamation on Easter "in passing" - in other words Obama was not as passionate as he was on the Muslim statement! Then the dude on the right claims the White House blew it? Geez, I know you love Faux News, but, give me a break - it is obvious they are trying to inform their viewers that Obama is not for Christianity and doesn't care for Christianity as much as he does for Islam. The Republicans/conservatives have been trying to shove that belief in everybody's mind and Faux News is helping them along.

Obama is a Christian. He had an Easter Prayer Breakfast, he mentioned the fact that Jesus' resurrection puts everything into a different perspective - so why do Reps/cons and Faux News keep insisting that Obama is not a Christian?

You need to view the video over, slowly, and pay attention to what they are saying, not what you think they are saying.

 

[SheWolf]

That seems to be the intent, from what I can see on this latest issue. You would think that if Faux News was honestly trying to present the truth they would have checked it out to make sure that George Bush hadn't done the same thing - they assume that nobody is going to check them out to see if they are telling the truth.

But, what is more appalling is that Faux News viewers will defend their lies, even when they are confronted with the truth.

I think some Fox News viewers are pretty much buying into mostly everything... but some these attacks on Muslims and promoting the idea that Christians are victims, and liberals are siding with the Muslims and they=terrorists, is actually creating some disturbing pictures here on dp with some of the people I have had conversations with.

 

[mertex]

I think some Fox News viewers are pretty much buying into mostly everything... but some these attacks on Muslims and promoting the idea that Christians are victims, and liberals are siding with the Muslims and they=terrorists, is actually creating some disturbing pictures here on dp with some of the people I have had conversations with.

They most assuredly are, but what really baffles me, they don't mind all the money that we are spending on the war in Iraq, to help Iraqis, (Muslims), reconfigure their government into a Democracy. The left is supposed to side with Muslims, but they are the ones that want to finance a makeover of the Iraqis (Muslims), government, while fighting to destroy programs that help Americans, like Medicare, Social Security and Medicaid. Go figure!

 

[LuckyDan]

Ha,ha, unbelievable!

I guess you missed the part where Ms Foxy claims that people are having an issue, because he didn't do the same for Easter? What people? I think she is the only one saying it.

Also, the dude on the left claims that he did issue a proclamation on Easter "in passing" - in other words Obama was not as passionate as he was on the Muslim statement! Then the dude on the right claims the White House blew it? Geez, I know you love Faux News, but, give me a break - it is obvious they are trying to inform their viewers that Obama is not for Christianity and doesn't care for Christianity as much as he does for Islam. The Republicans/conservatives have been trying to shove that belief in everybody's mind and Faux News is helping them along.

Obama is a Christian. He had an Easter Prayer Breakfast, he mentioned the fact that Jesus' resurrection puts everything into a different perspective - so why do Reps/cons and Faux News keep insisting that Obama is not a Christian?

You need to view the video over, slowly, and pay attention to what they are saying, not what you think they are saying.

I would suggest the same to you, Mertex.

Do you disagree with Ms. Carlson's comment that this might be an outreach to the Muslim world? I don't. And I take no issue with it. Further I agree that BO seemed less enthusiastic about coming up with an equally lovely - and timely - Easter statement. And I wasn't surprised.

It will be interesting, I'm sure you'll agree, if he does have something poetic to state publicly on Easter 2012.

 

[pbrauer]

Predictable: Fox Lobs False Attack At Obama Over His Ramadan Statement | Media Matters for America

On August 1, President Obama issued a statement "on the occasion of Ramadan," in which he and the First Lady extended their "best wishes to Muslim communities in the United States and around the world." On August 2, Fox & Friends co-hosts reacted with predictable outrage, falsely declaring that he issued a "proclamation" in honor of the holiday. Reviving their bogus attack on Obama for not issuing an Easter proclamation, the co-hosts whined that Obama did "nothing big" for "Christianity's holiest, most sacred holiday," but for Ramadan he "issued an absolutely lovely statement regarding Ramadan" and "will also host a -- an Iftar, which is the breaking of the fast that occurs after sunset." Of course, their attack falls flat for multiple reasons.

While the co-hosts acknowledged that Obama hosted the White House's annual Easter Egg Roll, they suggested that the rest of Obama's official recognition of the holiday was limited to a brief "mention ... in his weekend address." In fact, in addition to the Easter Egg Roll and his weekly address, Obama hosted an entire Easter Prayer Breakfast in which he discussed how the "resurrection of" his "savior, Jesus Christ ... puts everything else in perspective." In his very personal speech, Obama quoted the Scripture and said of Jesus' "slow march up that hill" and "the pain and the scorn and the shame of the cross" Jesus was subjected to:

[W]e're reminded that in that moment, he took on the sins of the world -- past, present and future -- and he extended to us that unfathomable gift of grace and salvation through his death and resurrection.

In the words of the book Isaiah: "But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed."

This magnificent grace, this expansive grace, this "Amazing Grace" calls me to reflect. And it calls me to pray. It calls me to ask God for forgiveness for the times that I've not shown grace to others, those times that I've fallen short. It calls me to praise God for the gift of our son -- his Son and our Savior.​

 

[SheWolf]

They most assuredly are, but what really baffles me, they don't mind all the money that we are spending on the war in Iraq, to help Iraqis, (Muslims), reconfigure their government into a Democracy. The left is supposed to side with Muslims, but they are the ones that want to finance a makeover of the Iraqis (Muslims), government, while fighting to destroy programs that help Americans, like Medicare, Social Security and Medicaid. Go figure!

IDK.... but this is what makes me really hate Fox News. I think it's irresponsible that that network allows Fox and Friends to broadcast such ideas to mainstream American households.

 

[mertex]

I would suggest the same to you, Mertex.

Do you disagree with Ms. Carlson's comment that this might be an outreach to the Muslim world? I don't. And I take no issue with it. Further I agree that BO seemed less enthusiastic about coming up with an equally lovely - and timely - Easter statement. And I wasn't surprised.

It will be interesting, I'm sure you'll agree, if he does have something poetic to state publicly on Easter 2012.

I did, and I didn't come up with the same "right-biased view" that you did.

If you think it is an outreach to the Muslim world, I guess then the "they" that had issue with Obama making the statement would have been incensed when George Bush issued a similar statement? And, Bush didn't even bother to mention Easter, whereas Obama was not "less enthusiastic" about Easter - he had an Easter Prayer Breakfast - what did Bush or Reagan, for that matter, have?

Fox News today slammed President Obama for not issuing a proclamation acknowledging Easter. (Somehow, Christians managed to hear about the holiday anyway.) Conservative activists quickly followed suit, probably unaware of the fact that Bush and Reagan didn't issue Easter proclamations, either.
The Washington Monthly


It doesn't matter if Obama makes a long and passionate statement about Easter in 2012 - I'm sure that Reps/cons will find something in his statement to criticize and continue their lie, that Obama is a Muslim and likes them more than he likes Christians.

 

[mertex]

IDK.... but this is what makes me really hate Fox News.

That's what Faux News is.

I think it's irresponsible that that network allows Fox and Friends to broadcast such ideas to mainstream American households.

But, that is what the entire network is about, they encourage it, so why would they keep any of their commentators/broadcasters from making up stories that will keep their viewers right where they want them - confused and in the dark and hating everything "left".

 

[PeteEU]

To be fair.. the Fox and Friends anchors dont have the combined IQ to even spell "dissension"... so doubt they are doing anything... now the people behind them is another matter.

 

[American]

Would a CAT scan of the head find some brain activity on these folks?

Why are you watching the show if you don't like it, do you need a cat scan?

 

[American]

I did, and I didn't come up with the same "right-biased view" that you did.

If you think it is an outreach to the Muslim world, I guess then the "they" that had issue with Obama making the statement would have been incensed when George Bush issued a similar statement? And, Bush didn't even bother to mention Easter, whereas Obama was not "less enthusiastic" about Easter - he had an Easter Prayer Breakfast - what did Bush or Reagan, for that matter, have?

Fox News today slammed President Obama for not issuing a proclamation acknowledging Easter. (Somehow, Christians managed to hear about the holiday anyway.) Conservative activists quickly followed suit, probably unaware of the fact that Bush and Reagan didn't issue Easter proclamations, either.
The Washington Monthly


It doesn't matter if Obama makes a long and passionate statement about Easter in 2012 - I'm sure that Reps/cons will find something in his statement to criticize and continue their lie, that Obama is a Muslim and likes them more than he likes Christians.

What about you guys with your separation of church and state? Why aren't you criticizing Obama for praying for each religion? Is a cat scan in order?

 

[lpast]

I really hate the people on fox and friends. Even some of their right wing guests have called them out on the BS. This is exactly why so many people I know stopped watching Fox News. This kind of **** is going to lead to more right wing terrorists like the guy in Norway.... Yeah, I said it and that's my honest opinion.

From talking on this forum since that attack, it's become more clear to me that people wholeheartedly believe their religion, Christianity, is under attack by the left and by Muslims. So many right wing people already seem to believe the left prefers Muslims to their beliefs, and this **** is only feeding into them and going to create more fear and hate.

I dont think thats exactly true shewolf...what the right believes and I believe is justifiable is that the Left attacks christianity at every curve and juncture..the ACLU relentlessly pursues and abuses anything and everything christian..and defends everything muslim...the left categorically protects and defends muslims and their right to pray and have foot washs installed in all public places and condemns christianity at every opportunity....and I personally believe this is true from my own personal observations...and I dont watch foxnews exclusively I watch them all and read them all...

 

[roughdraft274]

They're no worse or better than anything on MSNBC....

IDK, to me it's pretty much the show you would get if Keith Olbermann were as adamantly conservative as he is liberal and then suffered brain damage. It doesn't bother me that they are biased, you expect that on Fox news or MSNBC, but its that they're just so god damned stupid and present this tabloid trash as if they're talking to little kids, then again I guess they know that they're general audience is close enough on the IQ level.

 

[American]

I dont think thats exactly true shewolf...what the right believes and I believe is justifiable is that the Left attacks christianity at every curve and juncture..the ACLU relentlessly pursues and abuses anything and everything christian..and defends everything muslim...the left categorically protects and defends muslims and their right to pray and have foot washs installed in all public places and condemns christianity at every opportunity....and I personally believe this is true from my own personal observations...and I dont watch foxnews exclusively I watch them all and read them all...

What the hell have you done with the lpast I know? :shock:

 

[lpast]

What the hell have you done with the lpast I know? :shock:

Obviously you dont know lpast....lpast is a 43 yr republican who voted strictly republican for decades....lpast loathes what the teaparty stands for and will fight them till his last breath...but that doesnt mean ive changed all of what I believed my entire life.
The teaparty has attacked me viciously in every aspect of my life....

 

[roughdraft274]

.the ACLU relentlessly pursues and abuses anything and everything christian..and defends everything muslim...

ACLU filed a lawsuit in federal district court on behalf of two families from Dove World Outreach Center whose children were not allowed to wear "Islam is of the Devil" T-shirts. | Gainesville.com
That's right, the ACLU fought for these kids first amendment right to wear a t-shirt that says "Islam is of the Devil". Completely goes against your assertion. As do all of these.

ACLU defends Floyd athletes over Ten Commandments | WSLS 10
Ordained Pentecostal Minister Can Preach In Prison After ACLU Lawsuit | American Civil Liberties Union
ACLU of Maryland (ACLU-MD)
ACLU Brief Affirms Right Of Jehovah's Witnesses To Carry Out Public Ministry | American Civil Liberties Union
http://www.aclu.org/prisoners-right...tled-seek-monetary-damages-violation-his-relv
Federal Judge Strikes Down Orlando Homeless Feeding Ban
Naval Officer Wins CO Discharge :: American Civil Liberties Union of Connecticut

 

[justabubba]

Fox and Friends criticized President Obama on (Aug 1) because he sent greetings to observers of Ramadan (Muslims). They further stated that Obama had not done the same for Easter, the Christian Holiday celebrating the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

Are they ignorant or what? Not only did Obama hold the traditional Easter Egg Roll on the White House lawn, he also had an Easter Prayer Breakfast in which he even mentioned the resurrection of Jesus Christ - and, did Fox News fail to check out whether President George Bush had issued a similar statement? Of course they didn't, and of course he did!

No wonder viewers of Fox News are considered the least informed, but it appears that the commentators and broadcasters are equally ill informed!


Predictable: Fox Lobs False Attack At Obama Over His Ramadan Statement
August 02, 2011 9:09 am ET by Julie Millican
On August 1, President Obama issued a statement "on the occasion of Ramadan," in which he and the First Lady extended their "best wishes to Muslim communities in the United States and around the world." On August 2, Fox & Friends co-hosts reacted with predictable outrage, falsely declaring that he issued a "proclamation" in honor of the holiday. Reviving their bogus attack on Obama for not issuing an Easter proclamation, the co-hosts whined that Obama did "nothing big" for "Christianity's holiest, most sacred holiday," but for Ramadan he "issued an absolutely lovely statement regarding Ramadan" and "will also host a -- an Iftar, which is the breaking of the fast that occurs after sunset." Of course, their attack falls flat for multiple reasons.

While the co-hosts acknowledged that Obama hosted the White House's annual Easter Egg Roll, they suggested that the rest of Obama's official recognition of the holiday was limited to a brief "mention ... in his weekend address." In fact, in addition to the Easter Egg Roll and his weekly address, Obama hosted an entire Easter Prayer Breakfast in which he discussed how the "resurrection of" his "savior, Jesus Christ ... puts everything else in perspective." In his very personal speech, Obama quoted the Scripture and said of Jesus' "slow march up that hill" and "the pain and the scorn and the shame of the cross" Jesus was subjected to:

Predictable: Fox Lobs False Attack At Obama Over His Ramadan Statement | Media Matters for America


I guess it is praiseworthy when George Bush issued the similar greetings, but a condemnable thing for Obama to do! Double standards, anyone?

The US president, George Bush, released the following written statement yesterday to mark the start of the Muslim holy month, Ramadan:
"As the new moon signals the holy month of Ramadan, I extend warm greetings to Muslims throughout the United States and around the world.
Bush issues Ramadan greeting | World news | guardian.co.uk

i agree with the points you make - in total
but this is also symptomatic of an even larger underlying problem in America
that crappy public education system we have long perpetrated is now paying these "dividends"
we have failed to educate a substantial portion of our population ... the fox viewers who are unable to evaluate the propaganda which is being fed to them

 

[Patrickt]

They're no worse or better than anything on MSNBC....

Oh, Ockham, don't ever, ever interrupt a liberal pity party. It's like trying to reason with sharks in a feeding frenzy and they aren't bright to begin with. These are people who watch and listen to Chris Matthews, Rachel Maddown, Keith Olbermann, Ed Schultz, Bashir, and even Al Sharpton. How can you possible question them?

 

[American]

ACLU filed a lawsuit in federal district court on behalf of two families from Dove World Outreach Center whose children were not allowed to wear "Islam is of the Devil" T-shirts. | Gainesville.com
That's right, the ACLU fought for these kids first amendment right to wear a t-shirt that says "Islam is of the Devil". Completely goes against your assertion. As do all of these.

ACLU defends Floyd athletes over Ten Commandments | WSLS 10
Ordained Pentecostal Minister Can Preach In Prison After ACLU Lawsuit | American Civil Liberties Union
ACLU of Maryland (ACLU-MD)
ACLU Brief Affirms Right Of Jehovah's Witnesses To Carry Out Public Ministry | American Civil Liberties Union
http://www.aclu.org/prisoners-right...tled-seek-monetary-damages-violation-his-relv
Federal Judge Strikes Down Orlando Homeless Feeding Ban
Naval Officer Wins CO Discharge :: American Civil Liberties Union of Connecticut

I think it use to be a valid criticism, but they have made efforts to change that perception as you may have shown. Historically I do not think they always had the best reputation regarding religion.

 

[roughdraft274]

I think it use to be a valid criticism, but they have made efforts to change that perception as you may have shown. Historically I do not think they always had the best reputation regarding religion.

They have a bad reputation because some conservatives are retarded and will believe anything Rush Limbaugh says.

 

[Ockham]

Why are you watching the show if you don't like it, do you need a cat scan?

To complain about it. To continue to spread a one sided partisan view in hopes of turning others to that view - commonly called propaganda.

 

[teamosil]

To complain about it. To continue to spread a one sided partisan view in hopes of turning others to that view - commonly called propaganda.

The way people percieve Fox News isn't just divided on liberal/conservative lines. It is also divided on educational lines. More educated conservatives are very unlikely to watch Fox. Murdoch owns both the WSJ and Fox. He markets Fox to the conservative trailer parks and he markets the WSJ to the educated conservatives. The WSJ is just as conservative as Fox, but it has an ironclad reputation for factual accuracy. Fox has the worst reputation for factual accuracy of any major media outlet. By far. But at the low end of the conservative community factual accuracy just doesn't seem to be a priority.

 

[Ockham]

The way people percieve Fox News isn't just divided on liberal/conservative lines. It is also divided on educational lines. More educated conservatives are very unlikely to watch Fox.

Can you post the evidence supporting your opinion?

 

[teamosil]

Can you post the evidence supporting your opinion?

I don't know that any study has been done, but it's pretty common knowledge, no? Like on political forums on the internet you find a lot of die hard Fox supporters that tend to be less informed and some particularly bright conservatives that acknowledge that it is basically fake news and reads WSJ and whatnot instead, but in law school I didn't meet a single conservative that gets their news from Fox and they pretty much all make fun of it and get their news from legit sources.

I mean, Fox is WAAAAY worse than MSNBC, but you even see the same thing with liberals and MSNBC. Particularly smart or educated liberals generally watch CNN or get their news from print sources because MSNBC is pretty tabloid, while less informed liberals are more likely to watch MSNBC. Well, given how much wider the gap for accuracy is between Fox and the legit conservative media, you inevitably see that happening to a much more striking degree on the right. Sources like the WSJ are, hands down, amongst the absolute top sterling tier for accuracy where they literally only have one factually inaccurate statement a year or so, it is always something minor where the writer clearly just made a mistake, and they respond to it with a front page retraction and profuse apologies. Fox on the other hand gets busted like every day saying uterly insane things like that the president of the US attended a terrorist training camp and stuff... It's the difference between professional golf and professional wrestling. They most definitely attract radically different audiences.

 

[dontworrybehappy]

Ha,ha, unbelievable!
Obama is a Christian.

Yes, that is unbelievable considering he says things like "my muslim faith."

You know what kind of **** GWB would have had to put up with had HE said these exact words? OH MY ****ING GAWD.



But as we both know, the media and the left give him a pass on EVERYTHING he does and EVERYTHING he says. It's to be expected from the libtards these days.