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Lydia Saad said:PRINCETON, NJ -- Americans generally agree about the morality of 12 out of 16 behaviors or social policies that sometimes spark public controversy, with sizable majorities saying each is either "morally acceptable" or "morally wrong." By contrast, views on doctor-assisted suicide, gay and lesbian relations, abortion, and having a baby outside of marriage are closely divided -- the percentage supporting and the percentage opposing are within 15 points of each other.
I'm not advocating the abolition of Religion, you know believe what you wanna believe it's a free country yada yada yada... but what a world it would be with Allah, God, Yahweh and Jehovah...
Definitely agree with the abortion one, holy crap man I found out really quick when I joined this forum to do one thing when it came to abortion debates.... DO NOT GET INVOLVED! Period. It's like continually smashing your face into a brick wall.
But that's besides the point, the problem with these 4 moral issues is religion... plain and simple religion comes in with these arguments everytime. I'm not advocating the abolition of Religion, you know believe what you wanna believe it's a free country yada yada yada... but what a world it would be without Allah, God, Yahweh and Jehovah...
Hell, the Abortion subforum is where I made my rep here. Practice fighting and you have to accept you're going to get hit, but that just means you have to practice harder.
What do you expect? These are moral issues and most peoples' morality is defined by their religion. Without religion the numbers might be different, but the issues would still be present.
Ah I'm just a big ***** that doesn't like to lose. In those debates there are no winners because neither side will back down.
Ah I'm just a big ***** that doesn't like to lose. In those debates there are no winners because neither side will back down.
People like being told what to think...
Four Moral Issues Sharply Divide Americans
Some interesting findings in here.
I'm most surprised by the number of Americans who consider polygamy acceptable-- one in ten men and one in twenty women. Independents are twice as likely to accept polygamy than either Democrats or Republicans-- one of the few issues in which Independents do not fall neatly between the two major parties.
I'm also disappointed by the very high numbers in favor of divorce and the very low numbers in favor of cloning.
I, on the other hand, am utterly baffled that anyone could consider divorce to be "morally wrong."
Definitely agree with the abortion one, holy crap man I found out really quick when I joined this forum to do one thing when it came to abortion debates.... DO NOT GET INVOLVED! Period. It's like continually smashing your face into a brick wall.
But that's besides the point, the problem with these 4 moral issues is religion... plain and simple religion comes in with these arguments everytime. I'm not advocating the abolition of Religion, you know believe what you wanna believe it's a free country yada yada yada... but what a world it would be without Allah, God, Yahweh and Jehovah...
:shock: :doh :soap
For the record (and I admit that I am the exception) I do not want, need or see the benefit of having religion used in any debates.
And that goes especially for the abortion debate!
I don't need "God" or religion to recognize the faces fingers and toes or any of the other human attributes on an aborted child. And it baffles me as to why anyone else does.
Actually I was going to mention you. :mrgreen:
There are people who are not particularly religious, or not religious at all, who may stand on either side of any of these issues. I won't deny that religious beliefs play a role for the majority, but not entirely by a long shot.
I personally know people who are about as religious as a bootscraper, who for whatever reason abhor homosexuality so vehemently that they make me look like a liberal pansy. :mrgreen:
I, on the other hand, am utterly baffled that anyone could consider divorce to be "morally wrong."
I'm a pro-life atheist. I suspect that the vast majority of pro-life Christians would still be pro-life even without religion.I disagree, the issues are only issues because religion gets so uppity about them.
It's a violation of a sacred vow. What's hard to understand?I, on the other hand, am utterly baffled that anyone could consider divorce to be "morally wrong."
Four Moral Issues Sharply Divide Americans
Some interesting findings in here.
I'm most surprised by the number of Americans who consider polygamy acceptable-- one in ten men and one in twenty women. Independents are twice as likely to accept polygamy than either Democrats or Republicans-- one of the few issues in which Independents do not fall neatly between the two major parties.
I'm also disappointed by the very high numbers in favor of divorce and the very low numbers in favor of cloning.
I'm trying to figure out the big discrepancy between those who feel suicide is morally wrong and those who feel Dr. assisted suicide is morally wrong? :?
Hmm. I'm surprised the support for polygamy isn't higher. I'd support polygamy before I'd support gay marriage... polygamy has historical precendent and fulfills the fundamental function of family: producing and raising children.
I have no problem with cloning animals. Cloning humans is complex issue with many moral/ethical issues to be resolved before we allow it to be done legally (I'm sure it will be done illegally very soon, if it hasn't already.) A human clone would obviously be human, but is it legally a person? My own position is an emphatic Yes, for a variety of reasons I will forebear to go into unless someone asks. (It would take some explaining.)
I find it odd that 6% find adultery acceptable. I guess it's a low # but it seems high to me.
Most suicides aren't terminally ill, while it is assumed that those that would be assisted by a doctor would be. Personally, I have no moral objection to suicide or assisted suicide, whether there's a doctor involved or not-- but doctor assisted suicide at least ensures that there's an adequate chance the person will be referred into therapy and it doesn't leave the family in the tragic position of having to find the body.
Between one in ten men and one in twenty women, though? That's surprisingly high, at least to me. As for supporting polygamy... I was in favor of polygamy before I ever considered the issue of gay marriage. Too much Heinlein as a kid.
I agree with you here. A cloned person is just as much a person as the donor's twin would be. The only reason I'm currently opposed to it is the technical difficulties with it, and the fact that all cloned animals have exhibited troubling defects; it would not be right to subject a person to such a life. I have no problem with cloning human tissue.
Four Moral Issues Sharply Divide Americans
Some interesting findings in here.
I'm most surprised by the number of Americans who consider polygamy acceptable-- one in ten men and one in twenty women. Independents are twice as likely to accept polygamy than either Democrats or Republicans-- one of the few issues in which Independents do not fall neatly between the two major parties.
I'm also disappointed by the very high numbers in favor of divorce and the very low numbers in favor of cloning.
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