Finally we hear the REAL information in the Zimmerman trial......

[Ray410]

A malicious prosecution lawsuit is basically an impossibility and the phrase generally actually applies to civil suits in which a Plaintiff "maliciously prosecuted" a civil lawsuit.

What Zimmerman if found not guilty is an extremely good chance of winning his civil suit against MBC/MSNBC for slander for outright stating his is a "murderer" as a fact. He also would have a good lawsuit against the NY Times, numerous media personalities and editors, and certain celebrities.

In a civil suit, no one is prosecuted, that is a private matter between two parties. The phrase "Malicious Prosecution" only applies to state actions in criminal prosecutions done for a "wrongful purpose."

Civil lawsuits may be termed "Frivolous."

 

[CRUE CAB]

While everyone has prejudice, some have a minuscule amount in irrelevant aspects of life while others are race baiting idiots spewing garbage from every height. That's not the same thing and pretending it is constitutes apologism.




The racial bigotry spewing, boyfriend of a Hut, couldn't manage to stay in high-school, ambushing the wrong person while on 'vacation' at a parent's house is a rather unimpressive example of anything. Paranoid, stupid and incapable of getting the job done are the words I'd use to describe him.

Yet was able to handle a grown man with ease, forcing said grown man to shoot him.

 

[Sig]

Forget the fact so many media outlets showed Zimmerman's mug shot and Martin's picture as a 12 year old. Forget NBC actually EDITED the tape in attempt to show something NOT there. Forget the IDIOCY of a segment of our population marching in the streets. Forget the MORON spike lee publishing what he thought was Zimmerman's home address. Forget the CRIMINAL new black panthers calling for a PUBLIC bounty for which the criminal a.g. eric holder didn't take action. Forget the asshat roseanne barr saying she wished Martin had shot Zimmerman.

Just listen, to ACTUAL words, THE NIGHT OF THE INCIDENT as recorded by a police officer.

LISTEN: Zimmerman's Recorded Statement To Police Investigator

This trial is a farce. Due to nothing more than hysteria of a segment of our population, George Zimmerman's life will NEVER be the same, all because he protected himself.

Actually, it is very difficult to forget the blatant and irresponsible attempt by the media to lynch Zimmerman. An acquittal is warranted on this basis alone, sans some very clear and convincing evidence of that he did not act in self-defense, which has thus far not been presented at trial.

 

[CRUE CAB]

No way, because I would never carry a gun. But I also wouldn't do what Trayvon Martin did.

But you made it seem like it's common for vigilantes to go around killing black people, becuse of racial animus. I call BS on that one.
( remember there is racism in this case but i's MArtin who was the racist
)

I carry, but I also know once I clear leather. My life may change forever, and maybe no for the good.
My life, job, wife, family are way way more important than playing John Wayne in my neighborhood.
And I never said it was common, only that one guy fit the bill.

 

[KLATTU]

I carry, but I also know once I clear leather. My life may change forever, and maybe no for the good.
My life, job, wife, family are way way more important than playing John Wayne in my neighborhood.
And I never said it was common, only that one guy fit the bill.

Sorry I got my my 'reply's to' mixed up. The other poster was the one who claimed that.
And I think you meant Charles Bronso, not John Wayne.
But with all due respect- I don't think you know what bill GZ fits, because this trial is only focused on that one incident. I haven't read much about previous
neighborhood watch incidents. There had to have been some.
I think the prosecution is tring to introduce those into evidence, on the theory that it demonstrates a builup of frustration and anger.
Like most everything the prosecution has introduced thus far, I think that will backfire on them.

 

[ecofarm]

Yet was able to handle a grown man with ease, forcing said grown man to shoot him.

Ambushes are rough. Gotta admit, Z didn't expect that.

 

[CRUE CAB]

Sorry I got my my 'reply's to' mixed up. The other poster was the one who claimed that.
And I think you meant Charles Bronso, not John Wayne.
But with all due respect- I don't think you know what bill GZ fits, because this trial is only focused on that one incident. I haven't read much about previous
neighborhood watch incidents. There had to have been some.
I think the prosecution is tring to introduce those into evidence, on the theory that it demonstrates a builup of frustration and anger.
Like most everything the prosecution has introduced thus far, I think that will backfire on them.

Bronson, Wayne, Van Dam whomever.
GZ was not cut out for it, not prepared for it other than having a gun.
Based on everything presented about Zimmerman, the endless calls to police, trying to be a police officer and failing, "patrolling", his mannerisims on the phone about who he was following, his involvement in the neighborhood watch program.
Maybe all well intentioned, but poorly excecuted.
He knew what type of people he was dealing with when he was all bent out about kids breaking in.
Yet when he was face to face with one of those kids, he had nothing. Just a gun and a realization that he was not no where near the man he needed to be to fend off a 17 year old.

 

[KLATTU]

Bronson, Wayne, Van Dam whomever.
GZ was not cut out for it, not prepared for it other than having a gun.
Based on everything presented about Zimmerman, the endless calls to police, trying to be a police officer and failing, "patrolling", his mannerisims on the phone about who he was following, his involvement in the neighborhood watch program.
Maybe all well intentioned, but poorly excecuted.
He knew what type of people he was dealing with when he was all bent out about kids breaking in.
Yet when he was face to face with one of those kids, he had nothing. Just a gun and a realization that he was not no where near the man he needed to be to fend off a 17 year old.

All may be true. But nothing there refutes the Defense's claim of self defense.

 

[CRUE CAB]

All may be true. But nothing there refutes the Defense's claim of self defense.

I dont refute that either, never have.

 

[sharon]

Wow, I just thought there were less than intelligent posters on here. Thanks for removing all doubt.

As long as there are people like you there will be problems because you can't see past your racist eyes.

Let me just say this for the record, it really makes ZERO difference how much melanin one has in their epidermis, it really makes ZERO difference what transpired prior, if someone has broken my nose, and is on top of me pummeling me in (as a witness in the actual TRIAL testified) a "ground and pound" MMA manner, I will draw my weapon and discharge it until said perpetrator no longer has the capacity to continue. Period.

I disagree.. A person would have to be an idiot to create the situation George created.

George has a long history of failure and screw ups. He couldn't even pay his own rent. Instead of getting a second job he creeps around the neighborhood with a gun???????

 

[CRUE CAB]

I disagree.. A person would have to be an idiot to create the situation George created.

George has a long history of failure and screw ups. He couldn't even pay his own rent. Instead of getting a second job he creeps around the neighborhood with a gun???????

Well to be fair he wasnt creeping around that night he was going to the store, but was easily distracted by the sight of a black kid in a hoodie.
I can just hear the inside of his head, "yep goin' to the store, gonna buy me a.........hey, whats that kid doing in my 'hood". Then it all goes down hill from there.

 

[Oceandan]

I disagree.. A person would have to be an idiot to create the situation George created.

George has a long history of failure and screw ups. He couldn't even pay his own rent. Instead of getting a second job he creeps around the neighborhood with a gun???????

sharon look, I'm sorry for you, you're hung up on racial matters. I'm sorry you don't agree with the LAW. Nothing George Zimmerman did that night was illegal. You can represent it in your own mind however you choose. Nothing you've suggested is supported by evidence, fact or even logic. Thanks for sharing your opinion though.

 

[sharon]

Well to be fair he wasnt creeping around that night he was going to the store, but was easily distracted by the sight of a black kid in a hoodie.
I can just hear the inside of his head, "yep goin' to the store, gonna buy me a.........hey, whats that kid doing in my 'hood". Then it all goes down hill from there.

Was he going to the Target?

George lies so much I wouldn't believe him if he said the sky was blue.

I hope they call Shelie and ask her if they mentored kids that afternoon... Who takes other people's kids to ballgames etc... when they can't pay their own rent.

 

[Samhain]

Was he going to the Target?

George lies so much I wouldn't believe him if he said the sky was blue.

I hope they call Shelie and ask her if they mentored kids that afternoon... Who takes other people's kids to ballgames etc... when they can't pay their own rent.

So cute. You act like you know him. What kind of cereal does he eat?

 

[sharon]

sharon look, I'm sorry for you, you're hung up on racial matters. I'm sorry you don't agree with the LAW. Nothing George Zimmerman did that night was illegal. You can represent it in your own mind however you choose. Nothing you've suggested is supported by evidence, fact or even logic. Thanks for sharing your opinion though.

By any reasonable man standard George was reckless.

I learned about SYG here in Georgia about a year before George shot Trayvon... and thought it was bad law.

If you have a stupid person who lacks judgment and who also owns a gun... its bad news. George had only been NW for about 100 days before he killed an unarmed teen.

We have dozens of teens in this gated community who wear hoodies.. walk and talk on their cell phones.. George would be killing one a week if he continued in stupid mode.

 

[sharon]

So cute. You act like you know him. What kind of cereal does he eat?

Those are the claims George made.. He can't ever answer a direct question.. He always starts with .. my wife was afraid... or we had burglaries in the past... or I started a NW program.

He talks about other prior events... a black man picking up trash.. or standing in the yard smoking.. George is a dissembler.

 

[Samhain]

Those are the claims George made.. He can't ever answer a direct question.. He always starts with .. my wife was afraid... or we had burglaries in the past... or I started a NW program.

He talks about other prior events... a black man picking up trash.. or standing in the yard smoking.. George is a dissembler.

The correct answer was Cheerios.

 

[Oceandan]

By any reasonable man standard George was reckless.

I learned about SYG here in Georgia about a year before George shot Trayvon... and thought it was bad law.

If you have a stupid person who lacks judgment and who also owns a gun... its bad news. George had only been NW for about 100 days before he killed an unarmed teen.

We have dozens of teens in this gated community who wear hoodies.. walk and talk on their cell phones.. George would be killing one a week if he continued in stupid mode.

Completely asinine comment lacking intelligence and integrity. I won't even mention it's unsupported by a single shred of evidence in this case. However, thanks again for demonstrating your racial hang ups.

 

[sharon]

Completely asinine comment lacking intelligence and integrity. I won't even mention it's unsupported by a single shred of evidence in this case. However, thanks again for demonstrating your racial hang ups.

This case isn't about race or politics.. its about stupidity.

 

[Napoleon]

Actually, it is very difficult to forget the blatant and irresponsible attempt by the media to lynch Zimmerman. An acquittal is warranted on this basis alone, sans some very clear and convincing evidence that he did not act in self-defense, which has thus far not been presented at trial.

I believe that there is just cause to believe that Zimmerman initiated the confrontation. At the very least, IMO, he is guilty of manslaughter.

 

[Grizzly Adams]

Yes, I have plenty of bias.
I dont say Zimmerman didnt end up having the right to shoot do protect, but how he handled things up to that point is what I question.

This is insane. You state you believe the shooting was justified, yet still think he should be convicted of second degree murder?

A justified shooting is incompatible with the elements of murder 2.

 

[Grizzly Adams]

Two commenters have made the point that Trayvon was acting in self-defense





I don't understand, perhaps because I haven't bothered to follow the minute by minute obsession like some in this case, but why hasn't the prosecution used the "Stand Your Ground" statute as justification for Trayvon's actions

Title XLVI

Chapter 776
JUSTIFIABLE USE OF FORCE

776.013 Home protection; use of deadly force; presumption of fear of death or great bodily harm.

—(3) A person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.

Probably the bolded part is the reason.

 

[Grizzly Adams]

More willing to throw down then fat boy.

So what you're saying is that Martin was willing and able to (and did) commit assault. And Zimmerman was not willing to do so.

And you still want Zimmerman to go down on murder two.

Disgusting.

 

[Napoleon]

He was attempting to locate the street he saw Martin disappear, as he was returning to his vehicle per the dispatcher.

Lets look at two key excerpts of the call.

ONE

Zimmerman: We’ve had some break-ins in my neighborhood and there’s a real suspicious guy. It’s Retreat View Circle. The best address I can give you is 111 Retreat View Circle. This guy looks like he’s up to no good or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around looking about.

Dispatcher: OK, is he White, Black, or Hispanic?

Zimmerman: He looks black.

Dispatcher: Did you see what he was wearing?

Zimmerman: Yeah, a dark hoodie like a gray hoodie. He wore jeans or sweat pants and white tennis shoes. He’s here now … he’s just staring.

Dispatcher: He’s just walking around the area, the houses? OK.

Zimmerman: Now he’s staring at me.

Dispatcher: OK, you said that’s 1111 Retreat View or 111?

Zimmerman: That’s the clubhouse.

Dispatcher: He’s near the clubhouse now?

Zimmerman: Yeah...

All of this transpired before Zimmerman got out of the car. So, riddle me this: Why did Zimmerman need to get out of the car to allegedly look for an address when he already provided the address where Martin was walking to the Dispatcher? Unless of course he was following Martin in direct contradiction with his own statements and needed a different address. Lets continue.

TWO

Zimmerman: Yeah. You go in straight through the entrance and then you would go left. You go straight in, don’t turn and make a left. He's running.

Dispatcher:He’s running? Which way is he running?

Zimmerman:Down toward the other entrance of the neighborhood.

Dispatcher:OK, which entrance is that he’s headed towards?

Zimmerman:The back entrance. [expletive] punks.

[audible sounds of unbuckling seatbelt and car door opening]

Dispatcher: Are you following him?

Zimmerman: Yeah.

Dispatcher:OK. We don’t need you to do that.

Indeed he was following Martin in direct contradiction with his statements. In fact, it is apparent in the remainder of the call that he was not looking for an address. He told the dispatcher that he didn't know an address where he ended up next to the mailboxes (hello?), didn't want to provide his own address, and just wanted to meet an officer where his truck was parked at the mailboxes. Why would he need to go wandering around looking for an address after telling the dispatcher where he wanted to meet the police officer and after the call had ended? And why would he need to go so far away from the truck, passing multiple buildings to do it?

Turned away???? He was ambushed.

Now that claim is particularly interesting. Zimmerman claimed that Martin lept from the bushes and attacked him. That might make sense if the fight had happened where his truck was parked near the mailboxes because there are bushes there. But, the fight actually occurred on a sidewalk between two rows of buildings and practically on the other side of the complex from where the truck was parked and there are no bushes there. Zimmerman claimed that he was walking back to his truck, but he was actually walking away from his truck towards Martin's path. I think he intended to apprehend Martin and force him back to the mailboxes so that he could rendezvous with the police with a burglary suspect in tow.

 

[TurtleDude]

Had Travon lived I bet he would have a different story.....Zimmerman gave his rendition....and what esle matters when you guys want to believe that?

The danger here is ....I don't give a dam who was on top or on the bottom.

You cannot have a system where vigilantes run around with guns .....pick a fight ...and them claim they had no option.
Zimmerman was getting his ass kicked because the fat pig felt he could handle the kid ....wether or not he had injuries or Travon was on top .....makes no difference to me!

Zimmerman is like most coward I see with a gun...
1) Step one ...Check if he's black
2) Step 2 check if he's armed
3) Kill him and then say ....you're standing your ground.


Trust me ...black people will exact punishment in some way for this...and frankly...I don't blame them.

great-let them riot. white folks and Jews didn't riot when OJ got away with murder. White folks didn't riot when the turd Al Sharpeton tried to frame a white law enforcement officer

but blacks rioted when a scumbag like Rodney King got beat up by some cops and a state jury acquitted the cops.

let them riot. I think if that happens, Travon will have lots of company