Feinstein : 'I Don't Know' of a Gun Law That Could Have Stopped Las Vegas Shooting

[vegas giants]

How would it have prevented Sandy Hook?

Licensure could include questions about the presence of mentally ill family members in your house and your plan to ensure your weapons are secured from those people

 

[TurtleDude]

Licensure could include questions about the presence of mentally ill family members in your house and your plan to ensure your weapons are secured from those people

uh that would be unconstitutional and Lanza had not been adjudicated mentally incompetent. a 20 year old male willing to kill a female will get locked up weapons secured by a combination the woman knows.

gun safes protect your weapons from theft when you are not present. YOU protect your weapons when you are present

 

[TurtleDude]

There are a 100 laws that could meet that criteria if the criteria is harm reduction not harm elimination. Harm elimination is impossible

post them. I think you are lying. and you have to balance theoretical "harm reduction" with the very concrete imposition of harm on those delayed, denied or inconvenienced.

 

[TurtleDude]

How would either of those laws prevented Sandy Hook or Las Vegas?

they would not have. the guns were registered to Mrs Lanza and she bought them pursuant to a background check. since she passed the background check she would have easily been able to get a license-IIRC she might have had one for the pistol

 

[vegas giants]

post them. I think you are lying. and you have to balance theoretical "harm reduction" with the very concrete imposition of harm on those delayed, denied or inconvenienced.

I posted two of them. Do you even read the thread before you go into attack dog mode?

 

[TurtleDude]

They may have made tjhose events less likely. Take Las Vegas. He bought numerous weapons in less than a year. If he had to license and register those weapons we could let that trigger a warning to the ATF that they may want to investigate. That is just one of many examples

that's a lie because the ATF doesn't even investigate the thousands of felons who lie on a 4473. to think they would have time to investigate a guy who passes background checks all the time is just plain stupid

 

[vegas giants]

uh that would be unconstitutional and Lanza had not been adjudicated mentally incompetent. a 20 year old male willing to kill a female will get locked up weapons secured by a combination the woman knows.

gun safes protect your weapons from theft when you are not present. YOU protect your weapons when you are present

It is not unconstitutional to ask the question and clearly you do not understand the constitution to make such a ridiculous statement.

 

[TurtleDude]

I posted two of them. Do you even read the thread before you go into attack dog mode?

yes. and since I have been involved in this area for over 40 years, the same old crap is the same old crap. Hawaii had registration for years and NOT ONE SINGLE CRIME was a solved by registration. canada scrapped its long gun registration asa being a worthless and expensive waste of time and money. registration is both unconstitutional and doesnt even apply to criminals

 

[TurtleDude]

It is not unconstitutional to ask the question and clearly you do not understand the constitution to make such a ridiculous statement.

since when are the constitutional rights of an INDIVIDUAL subject to abrogation due to the actions or status of another person.

you claiming I don't understand the constitution demonstrates that you constantly lie and throw out bs

 

[vegas giants]

since when is the constitutional rights of an INDIVIDUAL subject to abrogation due to the actions or status of another person.

What in the constitution prevents the question from being asked voluntairly? My god have you no clue what I am even talking about?

 

[TurtleDude]

I posted two of them. Do you even read the thread before you go into attack dog mode?

98 to go and since those two are worthless you actually are still at 100 to go

 

[TurtleDude]

What in the constitution prevents the question from being asked voluntairly? My god have you no clue what I am even talking about?

wrong answer-the correct response is"WHERE IN THE CONSTITUTION does government get that power"

you operate from the deluded position that government can do anything it wants

well if someone says yes, you cannot deny them a license since that is unconstitutional

 

[vegas giants]

98 to go and since those two are worthless you actually are still at 100 to go

As usual you have nothing to contribute and you are just here to attack anything presented even if you do not understand what is being discussed. LOL

 

[vegas giants]

wrong answer-the correct response is"WHERE IN THE CONSTITUTION does government get that power"

you operate from the deluded position that government can do anything it wants

well if someone says yes, you cannot deny them a license since that is unconstitutional

Prove it. Give me a detailed constitutional argument over why that would be unconstitutional with precedent cases cited.

 

[TurtleDude]

Prove it. Give me a detailed constitutional argument over why that would be unconstitutional with precedent cases cited.

so you are denying the fundamental concept that the federal government is one of limited powers. OK run with that vegas. It is just a another nail of dishonesty in the coffin burying your reputation.

 

[TurtleDude]

As usual you have nothing to contribute and you are just here to attack anything presented even if you do not understand what is being discussed. LOL

This is coming from a guy who posted over and over


"thank you for your opinion"

ITS JUST A FORM

IT WORKS GREAT

IT KEEPS US SAFER

 

[vegas giants]

so you are denying the fundamental concept that the federal government is one of limited powers. OK run with that vegas. It is just a another nail of dishonesty in the coffin burying your reputation.

You were asked to provide evidence to make a case for your claim. You have failed to do so ....again. Don't ask for evidence if you are unwilling to provide it when asked.

 

[vegas giants]

This is coming from a guy who posted over and over


"thank you for your opinion"

ITS JUST A FORM

IT WORKS GREAT

IT KEEPS US SAFER

All three of those things are true

 

[flogger]

you are lying again. we are tired of foreign agitators trying to overturn our rights so they can spread their misery to our nation. Your pathetic and dishonest claims that we don't care about the killings are the sign of a bankrupt argument. what we aren't willing to do is sacrifice our rights so envious subjects can pretend they have done something useful

But you are a myopic gun nut so what do your views matter ?

 

[flogger]

I'd love to see a law that would help. My personal criteria for such a law would be:

1. Would have prevented Sandy Hook

2. Would have stopped Las Vegas

3. Wouldn't infringe upon anyone's 2nd amendment rights.

What law or laws would you suggest?

As ever. One gun per person, a ban on all second hand gun sales backed up by a comprehensive registration scheme

This isn't rocket science :roll:

 

[jaeger19]

As ever. One gun per person, a ban on all second hand gun sales backed up by a comprehensive registration scheme

This isn't rocket science :roll:

But this IS AMERICA...

So you keep your country disarmed..

And I will keep my country free.

 

[TurtleDude]

But you are a myopic gun nut so what do your views matter ?

gun nut being anyone who doesn't soil his shorts over the sight of a gun?

 

[TurtleDude]

But this IS AMERICA...

So you keep your country disarmed..

And I will keep my country free.

Flogger proves the wisdom of Aesop and his tail-deprived fox true every day

 

[vegas giants]

gun nut being anyone who doesn't soil his shorts over the sight of a gun?

Oh please. Paper target warriors are so tough. Lol

 

[TurtleDude]

Oh please. Paper target warriors are so tough. Lol

what does that have to do with my comment? is this another case of you responding in a pavlovian sort of way and we get no substance, just drool?