Federal judge strikes down Trump-era border policy known as Title 42

[blue scorpion]

Got anymore cliches?

Is that what facts are called in your world?

Why would that make a difference

Because lettuce and strawberries have to be picked.

We have no idea who they are or what they were in their old country

What matters is that they are willing to do the work that is needed in this country and no I am not advocating for letting in criminals.

 

[Galactic Spin]

Low unemployment is how you raise wages

Economic growth is how you raise wages. 3.5% unemployment vs. 5% does little to raise wages. We need more people in the labor force. And we have them. It doesn't take a genius to figure out what to do next...

 

[brianpatrick]

I hope BP agents are ready for another human tidal wave.

Corporate America is. We also need someone to make more babies. I hear our sperm count is way down over the last few decades. If republicans get the White House in 24 they’ll be talking about amnesty and increases in immigration numbers.

 

[brianpatrick]

We don’t need any more immigrants, in fact we need much fewer, we should be canceling visas by the tens of thousands and returning people home. Recent massive lay offs in the tech industry should mean we should be canceling all the H1B visas previously issued for that sector

But we both know that’s not what’s going to happen.

 

[BlueTex]

Sure. "ENFORCE LAWS ON THE BOOKS".

But the Dems will want AMNESTY ("path to citizenship")

They ARE enforcing the laws on the books.. The laws suck

 

[Deuce]

Great, we need a few hundred thousand more "asylum seekers" wandering around our streets".

Congress has authority to set asylum requirements, not the president.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

Economic growth is how you raise wages. 3.5% unemployment vs. 5% does little to raise wages.

Except it has been

We need more people in the labor force.

No we don’t.

And we have them.

Then no need for new aliens

It doesn't take a genius to figure out what to do next...

 

[Bullseye]

Congress has authority to set asylum requirements, not the president.

Of course. Congress writes the law and the Executive Branch enforces them.

 

[Bullseye]

Is that what facts are called in your world?

Because lettuce and strawberries have to be picked.

What matters is that they are willing to do the work that is needed in this country and no I am not advocating for letting in criminals.

With the numbers sneaking in we could assign each illegal his own plant to monitor.

 

[Grizzly Adams]

We don’t need any more immigrants, in fact we need much fewer, we should be canceling visas by the tens of thousands and returning people home. Recent massive lay offs in the tech industry should mean we should be canceling all the H1B visas previously issued for that sector

No need. Without a valid petition from the employing company, the visa itself is worthless and they have to leave anyway.

 

[Nickyjo]

Sure. "ENFORCE LAWS ON THE BOOKS".

But the Dems will want AMNESTY ("path to citizenship"

By the laws on the books, do you mean the Refugee Act of 1980 and the three Senate-ratified treaties that regulate how asylum seekers are treated?

 

[MTAtech]

Of all the ways to get more immigrants (of whom we do indeed need many more), the asylum process is the absolute worst.

I have to agree. I saw this movie where Jack Nicholson was in an asylum and it was horrible.

 

[TomFitz]

I have no idea WTF you're blabbering about. BLS says we have 5 million unemployed so why do with need more "asylum seekers"?

Everyone else here does. You posts appear to be based on hoary old right wing stereotypes (”dirty” immigrants, and “lazy” people (black? Hispanic, certainly not white).

 

[TomFitz]

By the laws on the books, do you mean the Refugee Act of 1980 and the three Senate-ratified treaties that regulate how asylum seekers are treated?

Not really (as if you didn’t already know).

That’s also the standard right wing cop out when anyone talks about gun regulation, too!

 

[TomFitz]

Maybe republicans in congress will finally address immigration?

Nah! They’ve been hiding behind it to scare white people for four decades. No immigration reform proposal has been offered by any Republican since then.

Waving the dirty immigrant bogey man at the white mob works. Pushes the parochialism and victimhood buttons.

 

[Paradoxical]

Maybe this will cause the GQP house to get off their assess and actually negotiate an immigration bill...


A federal judge on Tuesday struck down a Donald Trump-era policy used by U.S. border officials to quickly expel migrants because of the covid pandemic, saying the ban had little proven benefit to public health even as it shunted migrants to dangerous places.

U.S. District Judge Emmet G. Sullivan in the District of Columbia vacated the order known as Title 42, effectively restoring asylum seekers’ access to the borders for the first time since the Trump administration issued it during the earliest days of the pandemic.

The decision — which takes effect immediately — knocks down one of the last remaining barriers to asylum from the Trump administration, advocates for immigrants said. It also poses an immediate logistical challenge for the Biden administration after two consecutive years of record apprehensions on the U.S.-Mexico border, with the possibility that the numbers could grow.

Biden officials have long worried about a mass rush to the border creating an emergency similar to the one that occurred in Del Rio, Texas, in Sept. 2021, when thousands of migrants crossed illegally and overwhelmed U.S. agents, creating a squalid camp on the banks of the Rio Grande that embarrassed the Biden administration.
Sullivan’s ruling also comes days after top border official Chris Magnus resigned under pressure after clashing with Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas.
The Justice Department and the Department of Homeland Security had no immediate response to the ruling.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/11/15/border-ruling-title-42/

Is this a good thing?

 

[Channe79]

America is gone and there's going to be no peaceful way to get her back.
Over half the nation is morally compromised and under globalist control.
Let the masses enjoy their serfdom.

 

[Deuce]

Is this a good thing?

Upholding the constitution is a good thing, yes. Why do you ask?

 

[BlueTex]

America is gone and there's going to be no peaceful way to get her back.
Over half the nation is morally compromised and under globalist control.
Let the masses enjoy their serfdom.

When are you leaving?

 

[RealityNow]

The Border issue is being addressed from the wrong angle. The U.S. should sanction Central American Countries and Mexico for not securing their borders.

If the Sanction are applied constructively, it could bring these countries to the "talking table", and the impact of sanction will put them in a position they will have to manage their borders. It can also open up dialog to create a U.S. - Mexico - Central American Cooperative, to address "The Mexico and Central American Drug Machine" and they can develop a U.S. -Mexico -Central American unit that has the tools and resources to combat and break down the Drug Machine.
There's a few things Drug Cartel Leaders, Corrupt Politicians and The Wealthy who help facilitate Drugs Production, Distribution and Crime truly hate is: Prison, Asset Seizure and Death.

Another Program is to Create a U.S. - Mexico - Central America "Infrastructure Investment Bank" with specific focus to build up Industry in those countries and develop a mutual benefit cooperative agreement. America already has many business interest in these countries, which needs to expand in each respectively.

One thing is for sure... All this "Right Wing Hatred of Brown Skin People" has produced nothing positive over the centuries and decades, and it ignored that Mexican people were in America long before Europeans even knew this land existed.

Today, many America Right Wingers blindly ignore the fact of the many contributions that people from Mexico and Central America provide in America EVERYDAY.

______________
What American Construction Builder have known for decades is: When they hire Mexican and Central American workers, the project don't exceed the scheduled time frame for completion, and the quality of work is done to a high standard of applied labor. It's why many builders continue to seek out the people from Mexico and Central America in various businesses and in construction and varied other job categories. They know the people work, they don't complain about every little thing, and they appreciate having employment. They work hard to learn the language and they work doubly hard to provide for their families. Many of Mexican and Central American people embrace the America Ideals, far more than many American even consider to do. Their family values fit more with the concept of family values, which too many America's only pretend to be about family values, and that pretense only exist when everything is going well. People from Mexico and Central America, their family values don't fade away when things are challenging or not going well, it become even stronger in working together to improve their family and they bond themselves even tighter together to collectively improve things for the family and themselves as individuals.

 

[RealityNow]

Too Many People come here just to talk and whine and promote their "I want to be anguished about anything the government and our systems and social society does to help people and nation". They have no thought-out ideas about anything.

The same Right Wingers that attack the government, turn around and want to say they want the government to fix this or that. Yet, they are too "unaware" to realize, "We The People" means... The People are the Government", it is the people who "elect people" to represent them. But when people have such inability to formulate a constructive thought, and are deficient in critical thinking, and have no ideas that involve constructive and critical thought.. Then the same government organizations they incessantly attack, and they incessantly vote in incompetent people, who are driven by bias, bigotry, racism will do nothing but have right wing antagonist incessantly promoting contentions for the sake of playing on people fears... while they occupy the seats for self enrichment and to appease their own vanity and fools pride.

Anyone can go throughout this entire forum and any other of such types forums and you will not find any Right Wingers who have any constructive critical thinking generated ideas of how to improve anything. These old men from yesteryears are still chasing the illusions of their hey day of growing up in a segregated society, they have spent their lives living with that ideology because that's what they were raised within and under that type of self consumption driven barbarity. Nothing of Civic and Civil Ethic or Humanities Dignity principles of Respect of "all people", can or will penetrate the type of grooming that made them who they are, because it was part of the building blocks of their mental concepts of life.

Everyday... they come to these forms with nothing but "I'm aggrieved about something" and from that, they spin in a circle using the same words that they don't understanding, and the same attack mentality from day to day... every day.

When they finish here, they go to any website that will allow comments to news articles, and the same barbaric savage mentality is displayed in one liner quips... and they delude themselves to think they are clever.

 

[Juggernaut74]

So….CARAVANS ARE COMING! is the outrage de jour again? So hard to keep up.

 

[SCrider]

I have no idea WTF you're blabbering about. BLS says we have 5 million unemployed so why do with need more "asylum seekers"?

You going to force people to take jobs they don't want?

 

[TomFitz]

America is gone and there's going to be no peaceful way to get her back.
Over half the nation is morally compromised and under globalist control.
Let the masses enjoy their serfdom.

What paranoid empty drivel!

 

[TomFitz]

The Border issue is being addressed from the wrong angle. The U.S. should sanction Central American Countries and Mexico for not securing their borders.

If the Sanction are applied constructively, it could bring these countries to the "talking table", and the impact of sanction will put them in a position they will have to manage their borders. It can also open up dialog to create a U.S. - Mexico - Central American Cooperative, to address "The Mexico and Central American Drug Machine" and they can develop a U.S. -Mexico -Central American unit that has the tools and resources to combat and break down the Drug Machine.
There's a few things Drug Cartel Leaders, Corrupt Politicians and The Wealthy who help facilitate Drugs Production, Distribution and Crime truly hate is: Prison, Asset Seizure and Death.

Another Program is to Create a U.S. - Mexico - Central America "Infrastructure Investment Bank" with specific focus to build up Industry in those countries and develop a mutual benefit cooperative agreement. America already has many business interest in these countries, which needs to expand in each respectively.

One thing is for sure... All this "Right Wing Hatred of Brown Skin People" has produced nothing positive over the centuries and decades, and it ignored that Mexican people were in America long before Europeans even knew this land existed.

Today, many America Right Wingers blindly ignore the fact of the many contributions that people from Mexico and Central America provide in America EVERYDAY.

______________
What American Construction Builder have known for decades is: When they hire Mexican and Central American workers, the project don't exceed the scheduled time frame for completion, and the quality of work is done to a high standard of applied labor. It's why many builders continue to seek out the people from Mexico and Central America in various businesses and in construction and varied other job categories. They know the people work, they don't complain about every little thing, and they appreciate having employment. They work hard to learn the language and they work doubly hard to provide for their families. Many of Mexican and Central American people embrace the America Ideals, far more than many American even consider to do. Their family values fit more with the concept of family values, which too many America's only pretend to be about family values, and that pretense only exist when everything is going well. People from Mexico and Central America, their family values don't fade away when things are challenging or not going well, it become even stronger in working together to improve their family and they bond themselves even tighter together to collectively improve things for the family and themselves as individuals.

I can speak to that from direct personal experience.