FBI Recommends No Charges Against Hillary Clinton for Use of Personal [W:234, 1861]

[ludin]

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And you ask that because...? It's pretty plainly stated, I don't think anyone is disputing that besides you. It's gross negligence, not specific intent.

No she intended to do it.
She was warned multiple times that what she was doing was not legal under law.
She did it anyway that right there is intent.

Good luck telling the cop you didn't intend to speed and he should give you a ticket.
The law doesn't care about intentions.
That is just political bs.

 

[Anthony60]

Re: F.B.I. Recommends No Charges Against Hillary Clinton for Use of Personal Email[W:

Well, looks like Comey is getting called before Congress, I was hoping this would happen. He needs to get up there and explain why, after laying out a case showing that she broke the law, why there are no charges. Others have been prosecuted for much less.

 

[iguanaman]

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She still broke the law.

Not according to the FBI. They did not recommend prosecution because they believe the Govt. would lose the case. That means she is innocent under the law.

 

[Kal'Stang]

Re: F.B.I. Recommends No Charges Against Hillary Clinton for Use of Personal Email[W:

Well, looks like Comey is getting called before Congress, I was hoping this would happen. He needs to get up there and explain why, after laying out a case showing that she broke the law, why there are no charges. Others have been prosecuted for much less.

Got a link?

 

[ludin]

Re: F.B.I. Recommends No Charges Against Hillary Clinton for Use of Personal Email[W:

So you don't think the President would know anything about national security or the actions of his SOS? There was no breech of security by Hillary and nothing of note was revealed to anyone. Most of the so-called secret emails were concerning drone strikes which are covered by the press but still remain "secret" in Govt. correspondence.

The 10-15 minutes of evidence listed I. What they found say otherwise.
They fact that they said that our enemies have a high chance of our classified data proves you wrong yet again.

By attempting to defend her liberals only show how unethical they really are for everyone to see.
There is no getting around how low liberals will stoop.

Not something I would be proud of.

 

[laska]

Re: F.B.I. Recommends No Charges Against Hillary Clinton for Use of Personal Email[W:

When was Lynch's speech?

I believe last Friday morning at the Aspen Institute. It was actually an interview she did that was widely televised.

 

[apdst]

Re: F.B.I. Recommends No Charges Against Hillary Clinton for Use of Personal Email[W:

Not according to the FBI. They did not recommend prosecution because they believe the Govt. would lose the case. That means she is innocent under the law.

Comey said she broke the law...lol.

 

[Henrin]

Re: F.B.I. Recommends No Charges Against Hillary Clinton for Use of Personal Email[W:

Not according to the FBI. They did not recommend prosecution because they believe the Govt. would lose the case. That means she is innocent under the law.

So would you listen to more than a dozen minutes of evidence in any other case whatsoever and think the person is innocent?

 

[ludin]

Re: F.B.I. Recommends No Charges Against Hillary Clinton for Use of Personal Email[W:

Not according to the FBI. They did not recommend prosecution because they believe the Govt. would lose the case. That means she is innocent under the law.

Evidence says otherwise.
No they didn't recommend prosecution due to corruption,obstruction from the doj and collusion with the doj and the administration.
Obama and lynch should be brought up on obstruction of justice charges

 

[Kal'Stang]

Re: F.B.I. Recommends No Charges Against Hillary Clinton for Use of Personal Email[W:

Not according to the FBI. They did not recommend prosecution because they believe the Govt. would lose the case. That means she is innocent under the law.

NVM, found one...

FBI director to appear before House committee

 

[Dittohead not!]

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The F.B.I. recommended no charges for Hillary Clinton over her use of email as secretary of state, but called it "extremely careless"


Just reported by the NY Times.

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[TD]The F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, on Tuesday said “no reasonable prosecutor” would bring a case against Hillary Clinton for her handling of classified information as secretary of state. The F.B.I.’s recommendation will have an enormous impact on the presidential election.[/TD]
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[TD]Mr. Comey said the F.B.I. is not recommending charges against Mrs. Clinton to the Justice Department. But he said Mrs. Clinton and her staff were “extremely careless” in their use of email.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/06/u...c=edit_na_20160705&nlid=35927693&ref=cta&_r=0

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Hillary has already been tried and convicted in the court of right wing opinion. Had she been indicted, she would have been a convicted felon already. Since she wasn't, she has special privileges not available to the rest of us. It was either a scandal worthy of jail time, or it was evidence of a cover up. There was no win either way.

How else can the Republican Party ever get people to either vote for the conman or simply stay home on election day?

 

[laska]

Re: F.B.I. Recommends No Charges Against Hillary Clinton for Use of Personal Email[W:

So you don't think the President would know anything about national security or the actions of his SOS? There was no breech of security by Hillary and nothing of note was revealed to anyone. Most of the so-called secret emails were concerning drone strikes which are covered by the press but still remain "secret" in Govt. correspondence.

Obama could not have known whether Hilary email scandal hurt national security as the investigation was still on going. Unless you think he's read all 30,000 emails she had her lawyers delete and everything else, as well as know no one hacked her. And Comey stated that of the emails that were not deleted, there were top secret material and that there is a high possibility they could have been hacked.

 

[ludin]

Re: F.B.I. Recommends No Charges Against Hillary Clinton for Use of Personal Email[W:

Got a link?

House GOP to press Comey for answers on Clinton probe - POLITICO


House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) told POLITICO Tuesday that he was readying his panel to retrace the FBI's steps.
“What we’ll do now is go through and look at exactly what was breached, if anything, and what classified information was emailed back and forth to determine whether or not anything has to be changed” legally, he said.
He said he was also confused by Comey's recommendation that no charges be brought.
“More questions have to be asked because I’m not fully understanding this decision," he said. "If one of my staff did this or if I did this, I’d be booted off the intelligence committee and would never hold a security clearance again.”


Even he knows the laws. This is political corruption at it's finest, and the poorest excuse in the world

 

[Anthony60]

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Got a link?

There's a new thread on it.

 

[Tanngrisnir]

Re: F.B.I. Recommends No Charges Against Hillary Clinton for Use of Personal Email[W:

Comey said she broke the law...lol.

No, he didn't. Why keep lying about that?

 

[Anthony60]

Re: F.B.I. Recommends No Charges Against Hillary Clinton for Use of Personal Email[W:

Not according to the FBI. They did not recommend prosecution because they believe the Govt. would lose the case. That means she is innocent under the law.

Hillary and "innocent" are two words that don't go together.

 

[justabubba]

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Actually, "extreme carelessness" (Comey's words) is a textbook definition of gross negligence.

as deliberate as he shows himself to be, if Comey intended to convey hillary having engaged in 'gross negligence' i believe he would have used that term rather than 'extreme carelessness'

 

[ludin]

Re: F.B.I. Recommends No Charges Against Hillary Clinton for Use of Personal Email[W:

Hillary has already been tried and convicted in the court of right wing opinion. Had she been indicted, she would have been a convicted felon already. Since she wasn't, she has special privileges not available to the rest of us. It was either a scandal worthy of jail time, or it was evidence of a cover up. There was no win either way.

How else can the Republican Party ever get people to either vote for the conman or simply stay home on election day?

Sh is a felon. That fact that the fib and the injustice department is covering for her doesn't make her innocent.
More so when the head of the fib spells out exactly how badly she broke the law and even said if it was anyone else they would be charged.

So the fact it was Clinton was the only reason it was 100% a political move and done in the worst possible way.

 

[upsideguy]

Re: F.B.I. Recommends No Charges Against Hillary Clinton for Use of Personal Email[W:

And you ask that because...? It's pretty plainly stated, I don't think anyone is disputing that besides you. It's gross negligence, not specific intent.

This is a matter of law. Either you understand the law OR you post a piece from an expert who does. You are offering nothing but uninformed, emotional ramblings. What you are offering is not intelligent debate, its sharing your feelings in group therapy. Who cares?

 

[apdst]

Re: F.B.I. Recommends No Charges Against Hillary Clinton for Use of Personal Email[W:

No, he didn't. Why keep lying about that?

He never said she DIDN'T break the law. Never declared her innocent.

He said she was, "extremely careless". That is the definition of gross negligence. Section F, of The Espionage Act specifically stated that gross negligence is a crime, when classified material is mishandled.

So, yes, he clearly stated that she broke the law.

But, the law is for the little people. Right? The Liberals can no longer claim to be heroes for the unwashed masses.

 

[ludin]

Re: F.B.I. Recommends No Charges Against Hillary Clinton for Use of Personal Email[W:

as deliberate as he shows himself to be, if Comey intended to convey hillary having engaged in 'gross negligence' i believe he would have used that term rather than 'extreme carelessness'

No because if he would have used gross negligence he would have had to recommend charges.
She was grossly negligent because she had been told numerous times what she was doing was not legal.
She did it anyway because she is Clinton and is evidently above the law.

The law does not apply to her.

He split hairs in what he said. If anything he said she was a complete moron unfit for handling classified data.
That alone means she is not qualified for president.

 

[ludin]

Re: F.B.I. Recommends No Charges Against Hillary Clinton for Use of Personal Email[W:

This is a matter of law. Either you understand the law OR you post a piece from an expert who does. You are offering nothing but uninformed, emotional ramblings. What you are offering is not intelligent debate, its sharing your feelings in group therapy. Who cares?

We understand the law just fine. Clintonevidently does care because the law doesn't apply to her.

 

[justabubba]

Re: F.B.I. Recommends No Charges Against Hillary Clinton for Use of Personal Email[W:

Keep in mind she testified before Congress under oath. If the FBI directors claims are true she is guilty of perjury.

damn, you are onto something

show us the lies found within her sworn testimony

 

[apdst]

Re: F.B.I. Recommends No Charges Against Hillary Clinton for Use of Personal Email[W:

This is a matter of law. Either you understand the law OR you post a piece from an expert who does. You are offering nothing but uninformed, emotional ramblings. What you are offering is not intelligent debate, its sharing your feelings in group therapy. Who cares?

The law:

(f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793

 

[apdst]

Re: F.B.I. Recommends No Charges Against Hillary Clinton for Use of Personal Email[W:

damn, you are onto something

show us the lies found within her sworn testimony

Didn't she testify that no classified material was in her servers?