Re: Family of Florida teen killed by neighborhood watch volunteer feel 'betrayed' by
Even assuming what we're hearing is "air rushing by the mic" are you saying the wind speed never changes? Or that one is always facing the correct direction for the mic to pick up the wind? That assertion is full of wind ...
Actually it isn't full of wind.
Martin was running away.
Zimmerman then began to follow.
The mic noise cued the operator's question, and then suggested that they didn't need him to do that.
Zimmerman replied with an "ok", and the mic noise went away.
I alleged at that point Zimmerman stopped following him as the operator suggested.
We then later learn that Zimmerman had lost the individual.
The mic noise going away and losing his observation of Martin is consistent with his following the operators advice at that point in time, is it not?
We then later learn, that as Zimmerman was on his way back to his truck, Martin attacked him from behind.
All of this happened in a short period of time and I would like to see a timeline of those events.
As it is, it is all consistent with the evidence of his statements and that of the girlfriends.
Ok. Lets try another tack.
Nobody here knows what happened. Afaik, the only person who knows for sure is Zimmerman. And he's sticking to his story, so far.
I'm a pattern recognizer. I'm pretty good at "people". From what we have heard, Zimmerman is EXACTLY the kind of jackass who gets in peoples faces and throws his authority around (real or imagined). The kind who acts like such an ass that he gets his ass kicked. Which is PROBABLY what happened.
Now it is possible that Martin had a history of violence or a confrontational demeanor or some other factor that will cause me to alter my assessment.
But I don't think its gonna happen, and here's why:
This is a high profile firearm self defense case.
A Public Relations NIGHTMARE.
I promise you that as soon as this case drew national attention, an intensive investigation of Martin was launched. A standard crisis management response in PR. And the gun lobby has great PR people. If he was a "bad-egg" it would be all over the internet, but its not.
People who don't fight normally don't pick fights with much larger opponents in unfamiliar territory. I just can't get a model to run where an up-to-this-point good kid picked THAT time and place to go all "gangsta" on an innocent neighborhood watch guy. Just jump on him and start kicking this guys ass, when he's never jumped on anybody and kicked their ass before.
All it takes is a lucky punch in the face followed by falling back across the sidewalk to account for Zimmermans reported injuries. Hell, you could catch a guy with an elbow shrugging a hand off your shoulder. Heck, you might even start yellin like a little girl if some great big sucker grabbed ahold of you. Even a sissy fight could result a broken nose and an overweight person simply falling backwards.
Only Zimmerman knows, and if the truth will make him look like a jackass, he will never tell.
But it is FAR more likely that he is the responsible party. That had he not acted, nothing would have happened.
That Martin would have walked home and enjoyed his Skittles and iced tea while watching the game with his dad.
The course of his life was fatally altered by the actions of Zimmerman. There is NO evidence to the contrary. None. Martin was COMPLETELY innocent until Zimmerman acted as far as anyone knows.
He was just walking home from the store.
I don't think you realize it, but you just admitted that you have a preconceived way of looking at things.
Sometimes that can be good, at others times - not so much.
Look, I am not trying to be an ass towards you, but I know this is going to come across that way.
What skills you think you have, even if you do, even if you are a professional profiler, so what?
And so far I haven't seen you read the evidence correctly. So what does that say about your supposed skills?
Other people with those skills have an opposite opinion of yours. So What!
This isn't about you or them.
This is about the evidence, and so far I have seen things said that are not true, and speculation that is based on that untrue information, all coming from those who want to see Zimmerman found guilty no matter what.
The majority of these people are looking at this case through biased glasses.
I have watched as joko104 has tried over and over again to set the record straight with accurate information, but no one bothered to listen and they kept on giving the false information over and over again. All because they got it in their head that Zimmerman was wrong from the get.
Stick with the evidence, and what the evidence says. Everything else will fall into place.
Even the behavior of the two involved.
Zimmermann had NO right and NO authority, to confront and question ANYONE!!!!!
Says who?
Besides, your narrative is off.
Martin confronted Zimmerman first, as evidenced by the girlfriends statement.
It was only after this did he question martin.
says who???
says the law.
only LEOs have the right to stop & question a suspect.
anyone else doing it is illegally preventing a citizen form going on his way. its called unlawful imprisonment.
Please cite the law that says so.
If you can't, then please stop making statements about things you don't know.
