Election 2017: Tories to be largest party - exit poll

[Higgins86]

To be fair though her stepping down would propel some other person who wasn't voted in either.

Jesus who's going to take her place... Johnson?

Much as I'm no fan of the Conservatives let's not let that be a possibility in the coming days.

Well it could force another election in which case in my opinion Labour will win. more stable party.

 

[poweRob]

Cons are closing the gap.

 

[Linc]

I'm impressed that they have more than just two parties to choose from.

I see their 3rd parties as regional/provincial, not national. SNP and LD were no shows .

 

[Linc]

Cons are closing the gap.

Thanks to taking eleven seats from SNP so far, it's not a complete disaster for cons.

I count 317 con seats if they win the 27 still out and don't gain anymore .

 

[Surrealistik]

Corbyn is exceeding even my expectations, though I did certainly cite the possibility of a hung parliament and coalition govt prior to election day in light of the rapidly diminishing Conservative lead in the polls, as well as the desperate levels of austerity the UK was flirting with under the Conservatives.

Regardless of what happens however, at this point the corporatist, 'centrist', Clintonite/Blairite wing in the Labour party is utterly done with Corbyn having proven his mettle as leader and them eating all the crow in the United Kingdom over debunked claims of his so-called unsuitability (especially vis a vis their boy Milliband), as is May's political career.

 

[Linc]

neoliberalism remains a figment of pouter's imagination. This election was not another childish proxy war within the Democratic Party. Just as conservaDem tulsi Gabbard is the gop's favorite DEM .

 

[Chomsky]

So it looks like she has a plurality, but loses the majority?

In other words, another Trump?

 

[Surrealistik]

neoliberalism remains a figment of pouter's imagination. This election was not another childish proxy war within the Democratic Party. Just as conservaDem tulsi Gabbard is the gop's favorite DEM .

It's actually not; check out what neoliberalism actually means sometime, you'll see it fits third way Clintonite Dems to a tee, and why Bill Clinton is thought of as among the most notorious/conspicious neolibs in American federal politics.

Furthermore, the parallels concerning Labour's infighting between Corbyn's progressives and Blair's 'centrists' and that of the Dem party between the Bernie and Clinton wings were and are uncanny, only this time, the progressives seem to have soundly won.


Also how on earth is Tulsi Gabbard a 'conservaDem'? Woman is more progressive than the majority of her colleagues in the party.

So it looks like she has a plurality, but loses the majority?

In other words, another Trump?

No, because Trump effectively domineers government given that he has majority control over all of its chambers; May most certainly will not given the probable final seat breakdown.

 

[poweRob]

neoliberalism remains a figment of pouter's imagination. This election was not another childish proxy war within the Democratic Party. Just as conservaDem tulsi Gabbard is the gop's favorite DEM .

Tulsi Gabbard a conservaDem? She backed Bernie in the last election.

 

[Unitedwestand13]

Tulsi Gabbard a conservaDem? She backed Bernie in the last election.

Her position on Assad is out of touch

 

[Surrealistik]

Her position on Assad is out of touch

Agreed, but naivety about Assad does not a 'conservaDem' make; largely agreeing with Repubs on economic and social policy does.

 

[Linc]

Tulsi Gabbard a conservaDem? She backed Bernie in the last election.

Which means less than zero after you look at her positions on the issues in her career. Start with assault weapons.

Backing Saint Bernie is not a litmus test. Thankfully, Sanders said Ossoff wasn't a progressive .

 

[Linc]

Agreed, but naivety about Assad does not a 'conservaDem' make; largely agreeing with Repubs on economic and social policy does.

Try the conservation D on Daily KOS to find out just how unpopular Gabbard has become with DEMs in Hawaii and how much GOPs support her. She's a phony, just like so many anti-neoliberalism bull**** DINOs .

 

[Surrealistik]

Which means less than zero after you look at her positions on the issues in her career. Start with assault weapons.

Backing Saint Bernie is not a litmus test. Thankfully, Sanders said Ossoff wasn't a progressive .

No, but her voting record and approval ratings (or lackthereof) by conservative and progressive groups is:

https://votesmart.org/candidate/129306/tulsi-gabbard

Representative Tulsi Gabbard's voting record

Try the conservation D on Daily KOS to find out just how unpopular Gabbard has become with DEMs in Hawaii and how much GOPs support her. She's a phony, just like so many anti-neoliberalism bull**** DINOs .

Phony according to what? Do you have some actual statistics and voting record accounts that show her as being a conservaDem or are you just venting your dismay over the fact that she's a progressive who voted for Bernie and railed against your Dem primary pick? Since when is Daily KOS a litmus test anyways (even if it supported your claim)?

 

[Linc]

So it looks like she has a plurality, but loses the majority?

In other words, another Trump?

Cons won the popular vote--which doesn't mean **** in the uk either. Do you think lefties in the USA will support May because she got the most votes?

With or without SF sitting in their seats, May only has to buy off less than ten seats to form a coalition. Like Bibi in Israel with settlements. That's the last thing that'll ever happen in our senate or house.

I may not know the outcome, but I think she'll buy off enough votes to form a coalition .

 

[Infinite Chaos]

So it looks like she has a plurality, but loses the majority?

In other words, another Trump?

Cons won the popular vote--which doesn't mean **** in the uk either. Do you think lefties in the USA will support May because she got the most votes?

With or without SF sitting in their seats, May only has to buy off less than ten seats to form a coalition. Like Bibi in Israel with settlements. That's the last thing that'll ever happen in our senate or house.

I may not know the outcome, but I think she'll buy off enough votes to form a coalition .

The result is a kick in the teeth for May, she ran an incompetent campaign and one big message is that negative campaigns don't work with the UK population. At every interview, she mentioned and cast the opposition policy in the negative instead of talking about her own policies (which were found wanting).

Anyhow, there are no smaller parties who agree her Brexit policy so I can't see her staggering on in power. There will be another election soon because there just aren't enough seats for anyone to win votes in Parliament. She can't rely on the DUP in Northern Ireland for the 10 votes because the possible results of a hard Brexit would be a disaster for Ireland.

If she wishes to cling on, she will have to change her stance on Brexit but her party has some real hard line Brexiters who would ruin any compromise deals.

 

[iguanaman]

If the result is anything like that the main take away is that this world is fast becoming too unstable to manage.

I hope everyone has their Depression Plan ready.

So now you are agreeing with me that Trump will cause a recession? Too funny

 

[Hawkeye10]

So now you are agreeing with me that Trump will cause a recession? Too funny

You seem to be lost good Sir, may I be of assistance?

 

[joG]

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Election 2017: Tories to be largest party - exit poll - BBC News


The first exit polls of the UK General Election suggest that although the Conservatives will remain the largest party, they will lose their parliamentary majority and possibly lose power. Exit polls in recent years have prove fairly accurate, but they are still only polls and the actual results are a few hours away yet.

If they prove accurate this will be the most extraordinary turnaround in UK politics for decades.

PM Theresa May called the election with a 20%+ advantage over the Labour opposition led by left-wing firebrand Jeremy Corbyn.

Here's a thread for discussing the election exit poll and actual results. Have at it DP election junkies!

May made some catastrophic mistakes and seems to have added a lousy campaign on top.

 

[joG]

The result is a kick in the teeth for May, she ran an incompetent campaign and one big message is that negative campaigns don't work with the UK population. At every interview, she mentioned and cast the opposition policy in the negative instead of talking about her own policies (which were found wanting).

Anyhow, there are no smaller parties who agree her Brexit policy so I can't see her staggering on in power. There will be another election soon because there just aren't enough seats for anyone to win votes in Parliament. She can't rely on the DUP in Northern Ireland for the 10 votes because the possible results of a hard Brexit would be a disaster for Ireland.

If she wishes to cling on, she will have to change her stance on Brexit but her party has some real hard line Brexiters who would ruin any compromise deals.

She cuts an unpleasant figure visually, made some catastrophic decisions and ran a desasterous campaign. She is worse than Cameron was.

 

[Hawkeye10]

She cuts an unpleasant figure visually, made some catastrophic decisions and ran a desasterous campaign. She is worse than Cameron was.

Now for the really big question....Is she worse than François Hollande?

They sure have had some winners across the pond of late.

 

[joG]

Now for the really big question....Is she worse than François Hollande?

They sure have had some winners across the pond of late.

At least the French have a kind of Kennedy. In England the best in sight seems a man called Boris.

 

[Hawkeye10]

At least the French have a kind of Kennedy. In England the best in sight seems a man called Boris.

That's great, except that the Dashing Kennedies never seem to get much done, never did really.

What is that old saw....is it "Britain is 10 years ahead of the USA in its rate of rot"??

Somthin like that...

FUN!

 

[sanman]

The title of this thread needs to be changed. :doh

This really sucks. Jeremy Corbyn's ethnic-baiting followers must be celebrating right now.

No wonder the British Pound has fallen.


Time to get a new Tory leader - June has brought the end of May.

 

[radioman]

Wow... Theresa called that snap election with all kinds of confidence in gaining support. Man is she getting her ass handed to her.

UK election: Theresa May's 'snap election' gamble backfires​

Dang......I wish our system had that kind of option.
Imagine Trump, ridiculously full of himself, calling an election and getting his lunch handed to him.