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many people believe the west is in a fight with islamism
the rise of these islamists were supported against socialism and the collapse of eastern bloc opened the door to the better control of this region and " moderate islam" ( the islam which will obey the imperialism ) was chosen to form the political structures of the middle eastern countries.
Yah, thats not good....it looks like the US is confused who or what to support.claiming to be fighting against islamism while supporting them at the same time and threatening to stop helping them because they want to get rid of teh islamist nightmare is not honest action
Who chose "moderate islam" to form the political structures of the ME? Islam has so many factions within factions that its almost too difficult for the US to know who to support or not support and so they end up making mistakes. But no matter what the US does it's not going to please everybody anyway.
Yah, thats not good....it looks like the US is confused who or what to support.
Egypt is one of the oldest civilizations and I think it would hurt their national pride and risk alienating all factions if the US interfered too much.
The age of a civilization is an important factor regarding intervention? This isn't Star Trek.
Not regarding intervention, but regarding the stability of a democratic government once it is established. I sometimes make the point that since the Middle East is the birthplace of civilization, it has great potential to join the West in the advancement of civilization.
Not regarding intervention, but regarding the stability of a democratic government once it is established. I sometimes make the point that since the Middle East is the birthplace of civilization, it has great potential to join the West in the advancement of civilization.
Well, they are getting enough help for some advancement. More than enough to introduce them to at least the 19th Century.
http://www.debatepolitics.com/afric...illions-aid-sent-them-since-ouster-morsi.html
I don't think just throwing money at a country qualifies as "help." Money isn't really useful without education, empowerment of women, etc. because all it will serve to do will be to give the elite more power.
I expect, after Iraq regenerates the social capital annihilated by Saddam, it will begin rapid development and will once again be a great nation. Iran still has social capital, if it became a democracy it could begin rapid development almost immediately. If Iran poured its money into education, a functioning justice system, the enforcement of human rights and other development instead of nuke tech and the military (while invoking sanctions), the Iranian people could join us in the developed world in a couple generations and once again be world leaders.
But I don't think history has much to do with it. People are people.
I don't think just throwing money at a country qualifies as "help." Money isn't really useful without education, empowerment of women, etc. because all it will serve to do will be to give the elite more power.
I expect, after Iraq regenerates the social capital annihilated by Saddam, it will begin rapid development and will once again be a great nation. Iran still has social capital, if it became a democracy it could begin rapid development almost immediately. If Iran poured its money into education, a functioning justice system, the enforcement of human rights and other development instead of nuke tech and the military (while invoking sanctions), the Iranian people could join us in the developed world in a couple generations and once again be world leaders.
But I don't think history has much to do with it. People are people.
I agree, but think some regions might take longer to develop democracy than others. Afghanistan and sub-Saharan Africa are traditionally tribe-oriented societies, so trying to introduce systems of government (like democracy) that were created for settled societies has only made things worse by allowing turds like Idi Amin and Charles Taylor to take control.
Anyone wonder why Canada has no real enemies???
Egypt, Syria and Iraq all in flames.
We must stand idly by and watch there is nothing we can do to stop it.
Although I believe history shows where these things usually tend to end up.
Or we leave them to work their own problems out. Besides, they have no respect for America far as I know.
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