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I don't think so. Jesus came and brought a completely different message. That's why the Old Testament is separate from the New.
Where Phil grew up, there were no theaters with balconies. Out in the country, there were no water fointains, or public toilets and the nearest resurant was too far to walk to and people--white and black--didn't have money to spare to eat at a resturant, anyway. It's probable that Robertson didn't see any of that.
Not really. Science does not explain origin of life, yet alone all of existence. I hide behind nothing. I stand exposed to forces, both known and unknown, staring at the random nature of cold hard reality without the comfort of make believe.
I'm saying his perspective may be different than your's. Did you grow up in the south, or are you going by what you've been told?
It has already been explained to you. That is not being done.Speaking of how some Christians like Phil selectively choose their poutrage...
He was speaking about what was sin. That is not speaking hate.Actually, if you look at all the Quotes from Jesus, he never mentions Homosexuality, but he sure does talk a lot about loving your neighbors: friends, enemies and sinners alike; and of helping the poor. I wonder why Phil and so few Christians here on DP focus on that part of following Christ? Maybe you guys are actually rejecting Christ and instead are all following Satan.
It wouldn't surprise me. Christ is love. What Phil rambled on about was not love; it was hate. I see a lot of hate directed at Gays from supposed Christians here in DP.
Yep, because TV, newspapers, and newsreels did not exist. Jim Crow, lynchings, and the Klan were never discussed, or even acknowledged in the deep south when he was coming up . . . and apparently, all the way up to this very day by many.
“I never, with my eyes, saw the mistreatment of any black person," Robertson is quoted in GQ. "Not once. Where we lived was all farmers. The blacks worked for the farmers. I hoed cotton with them. I’m with the blacks, because we’re white trash. We’re going across the field.... They’re singing and happy. I never heard one of them, one black person, say, ‘I tell you what: These doggone white people’—not a word!... Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy? They were godly; they were happy; no one was singing the blues.”
No....Im sorry. You CANNOT "accidentally" mistake those words. And if you are being honest you will admit that most people that made their comments about that paragraph did so without ever once actually READING it.
Do you understand what "freedom of speech" actually means? Hint: It does not mean that groups like GLAAD aren't allowed to criticize you.
. Most of us find that, at the very least, off-putting if not downright appalling.
I've been hit by lightning and survived. I've seen someone almost hit by lightning, black scorch mark right next to his foot where it hit. You believe in ufo's? Does Santa ride on them?I can honestly say that I have never personally seen anyone hit by lightning, bitten by a shark, abducted by a UFO or placed in a gas chamber because they were Jewish but I do not deny that has occurred. Hearing something discussed, or seeing a recording of it occurring elsewhere, is not to say that one is lying in stating that they never personally saw it happen.
Stop brushing with a broad brush.Yes, he said black people were happier pre-civil rights. Most of us find that, at the very least, off-putting if not downright appalling.
Yes, he said black people were happier pre-civil rights. Most of us find that, at the very least, off-putting if not downright appalling.
No...he didnt. He said he never witnessed in his area mistreatment of blacks and that blacks were hard working, industrious, and (gasp) Godly. He described blacks and whites working together. He said nothing about the civil rights movement. His comment addresses entitlements and welfare and the counter to entitlements and welfare...hard work.Yes, he said black people were happier pre-civil rights. Most of us find that, at the very least, off-putting if not downright appalling.
I've been hit by lightning and survived. I've seen someone almost hit by lightning, black scorch mark right next to his foot where it hit. You believe in ufo's? Does Santa ride on them?
Why do you find that strange?I posted this before, and I can't remember on which thread, but it bears repeating ...
I found the strangest thing about that comment by Robertson was that he claimed black people in Louisiana weren't "singing the blues" when it was black people in pre-Civil Rights Louisiana who invented the blues.
Yes, he said black people were happier pre-civil rights. Most of us find that, at the very least, off-putting if not downright appalling.
I posted this before, and I can't remember on which thread, but it bears repeating ...
I found the strangest thing about that comment by Robertson was that he claimed black people in Louisiana weren't "singing the blues" when it was black people in pre-Civil Rights Louisiana who invented the blues.
Why do you find that strange?
Are the songs you consider blues, the same as what he thought were the blues and never heard?
What was that? You don't know?
Go figure.
Or do you know if they never sang the blues because he just happened to be around happy folks?
Do you know?
Show he knows what that specific genre encompasses."The blues" is a pretty well-defined musical genre. I'm not saying my observation in this case has any deep meaning other than the somewhat ironic phrasing he used.
"The blues" is a pretty well-defined musical genre. I'm not saying my observation in this case has any deep meaning other than the somewhat ironic phrasing he used.
Yeah! That's it! :lamo
You must not know the NT very well if you think it simply reinforces what was written in the OT.
Show he knows that specific genre encompasses.
And frankly, in April of 54 he was 8 years old.
Give his personal recollection a break.
Elvis may have heard the blues being sung 12 years earlier at that age, but I doubt Phil did, or if Phil did, knew what he was hearing.
That's the hard cold truth. Following Christ is not what many modern Christians are doing; they're following something completely different. The proof is in these 50 versus.......and especially considering how He railed against the Pharisees like He did.
IMO, when He said "Believe in ME and you shall be saved", He didn't mean "follow anybody BUT me", which is what these modern day Pharisees are doing. They follow the preacher man telling them what to believe. They follow Paul. They follow the Pharisees. They follow the hatred in their own hearts which requires them to persecute a small group of people in order to feel better about themselves. They don't follow Jesus, and in fact, they have so little respect for Him that they think He was too incompetent to know what was important.
If the persecution of gay people was so important, Jesus would have said so. To think otherwise shows such incredible arrogance and is so dismissive of the one they claim to follow as to be the work of a source quite different than the one they think they follow.
Open up the N.T. and read the red letters. That's all they need to do, and only when people start following HIM can they say they are His representative.
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