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Yeah, I knew when I used the word "valid" it would illicit a response like this. The thing is, whether troop morale would be affected for "valid" reasons or not is not as important an issue as whether it would be affected at all. The military is different than other jobs. I don't live with my coworkers (much to their relief I'm sure).
So, if a gay soldier "hit on" a straight soldier, the straight soldier should just be expected to "get over it"? That's a lot to ask.And many of those straight troops have no problem with gay troops serving openly, especially those who have already served with gay troops that they knew were gay. Therefore, those straight troops who are uncomfortable with gay troops serving openly are in a minority, not the majority. Those uncomfortable with gay troops need to get over it.
So, if a gay soldier "hit on" a straight soldier, the straight soldier should just be expected to "get over it"? That's a lot to ask.
So, if a gay soldier "hit on" a straight soldier, the straight soldier should just be expected to "get over it"? That's a lot to ask.
They should take through the chain of command and if that doesn't work take it to the military lawyers.
To do what? Wouldn't disciplining the gay soldier be "intolerant"?They should take it through the chain of command and if that doesn't work take it to the military lawyers.
I don't know too many guys who who are offended by being hit on by women. I also don't know too many dudes who just take getting hit on by another dude in stride.Yet you ask it of women all the time.
It's the ultimate chauvinism. Guys hit on women all the time, but getting HIT ON? **** NO MAN THATS ****ED UP!!!!
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The problem with a presidental order is they can be overturned (likely one reason he hasn't).
I don't know too many guys who who are offended by being hit on by women. I also don't know too many dudes who just take getting hit on by another dude in stride.
What if the dude is unattractive?I don't get upset if a dude hits on me, but if an unattractive female hits on me I beat her senseless. :roll:
What if the dude is unattractive?
Uh huh, and if he's hot...?I politely decline his advances.
Uh huh, and if he's hot...?
Uh huh, and if he's hot...?
I don't know too many guys who who are offended by being hit on by women. I also don't know too many dudes who just take getting hit on by another dude in stride.
I promise, I won't hold it against a woman if she gets pissed off by being hit on by another woman. The crux here is not people getting hit on, it's being hit on my people of the same gender. Is it too much to ask that, at minimum, our military not have to deal with that? They have enough to worry about.Yes, thank you, that's exactly my point. You get pissed off if a guy hits on you, but yet you hitting on women is just something women should have to deal with.
I promise, I won't hold it against a woman if she gets pissed off by being hit on by another woman. The crux here is not people getting hit on, it's being hit on my people of the same gender. Is it too much to ask that, at minimum, our military not have to deal with that? They have enough to worry about.
I promise, I won't hold it against a woman if she gets pissed off by being hit on by another woman. The crux here is not people getting hit on, it's being hit on my people of the same gender. Is it too much to ask that, at minimum, our military not have to deal with that? They have enough to worry about.
To do what? Wouldn't disciplining the gay soldier be "intolerant"?
So how many times is enough for someone to be allowed to complain without being branded homophobic? "Multiple" would suggest at least three. What if the advances are physical in nature, rather than just "propositioning"?Not if he was asked not to proposition others who have already told him no. Asking a person out multiple times after being told no is sexual harassment in the military. Everyone is taught this.
Many people have religious and moral objections to homosexuality. Fewer people think heterosexuality is morally wrong.Why should men have to deal with being hit on by women? Why should women have to deal with men hitting on them?
I don't see how unwanted sexual advances are any worse then they're done by someone of the same sex.
Many people have religious and moral objections to homosexuality. Fewer people think heterosexuality is morally wrong.
So how many times is enough for someone to be allowed to complain without being branded homophobic? "Multiple" would suggest at least three. What if the advances are physical in nature, rather than just "propositioning"?
Reprimanding a gay person for sexual harassing someone isn't being homophobic. It is treating us the same, and that is all we want.
Many people have religious and moral objections to homosexuality. Fewer people think heterosexuality is morally wrong.
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